GrimCoconut

I feel like I have to hate the Germans lol. It's like me liking the Ravens but also liking the Steelers. I won't even get into the French. I can't stand that team. My most hated team in football.

They have more bandwagon fans than any team I've personally ever seen or experienced. Their fans are so cocky as well. They remind me somewhat of Patriots fans.

That's absolutely true. They're not flashy at all and that's a very fair criticism. It's one I put aside because of how much I love the team lol. I probably would be bored by their style if I wasn't such a fan but I am. The truth is they are very talented but really need to get their youth involved. That's killed them in major tournaments in the past.

I can't deny that but I really, really hate that team lol. I loved when my Azzurri beat them in their own country when they hosted.

I hate the Germans nearly as much as the French and Brazilians

I see. I have mixed feelings. Again I am a diehard Nintendo fan for life. Diehard. I've owned every Nintendo system that's of note. Never had the virtual boy as I was way too young for that. With that said you are accurate in that Nintendo can be called gimmicky but where's the line between gimmick and innovation? It's fine and I personally love the Wii and its controller but not for all games. Some games it's awesome and some it's terrible. I don't like rpg with the Wii mote. With that said Nintendo has had its share of gimmicks like the stupid card reader for the Gameboy Advance I believe. That was so dumb. But with all its gimmicks Nintendo innovates better than anyone and they help expand the media to improve it.

So what's your opinion of the Playstation Eye or the Xbox Kinect?

That's not good for him at all.

lol I read that wrong. Sorry. I read it as Netherlands. My bad haha. My bad man. That was one of the tougher matches for the Azzurri.

Let's see how they do against my Azzurri lol.

Yeah. I thought so anyway. What made you question it lol

He just finished watching Fast & Furious 6. I can't blame him.

I'm not trying to convince you that you're wrong because you simply have an opinion. There's never a wrong opinion. I just disagree with your opinion of Zelda and Metroid among many other of your opinions on Nintendo. Those two series have very good stories. Even still they're not the best stories Nintendo had but they're very engaging. Metroid was a fantastic experience. I'm surprised you're so callous towards the Prime series. They were very good. I think Nintendo lost you because their stories aren't as engaging as perhaps other studios. I can't deny Nintendo lacks something in terms of stories similar to movies. If you're looking for that experience then it probably does fall short. With that said, those games I mentioned are all very engaging stories. I recognize that Nintendo has a problem in terms of no voice acting with Zelda but in their defense they tried they with Metroid and people had conflicted opinions. As I said I'm not trying to tell you you're wrong but there's more to this than your opinion on the subject. That's my entire purpose in this discussion is to simply discuss the other perspective of Nintendo. If you choose to understand or not that's on you. I'd hope you wouldn't be so narrow minded as to be so definitive in your opinion that it can't be fluid. I hope you're more open minded than that.

You make many fair points. I understand if you're disappointed in the stories and the rehashes. I'm a diehard Nintendo fan, so I will defend them. First, your major issue seems to stem from Nintendo rehashing ideas. This is add legitimate problem. I tired of the Four Swords and the re-releases. I don't buy those games. I've played them. I don't care about updated graphics and stuff. Now you and others here suggest that Nintendo isn't very story driven. I don't agree with this. While it's completely true that Nintendo is guilty of the re-release they are not guilty of poor stories. The Wind Waker had terrific story. It developed on Ganondorf and seriously expanded his story and provided motivation behind everything he has done. While it's true that Link has a bland personalty that is by design. The intentions behind Link were to have him remain an anonymous character where they player themselves were him. Link is the least developed character and while you can argue that's a problem it's not in my opinion. Furthermore, Skyward Sword was brilliant in terms of story. The story was one of the best I've seen in a Zelda game or any other not withstanding some of the best stories in video games. Outside of Zelda you have positively brilliant stories in the Metroid Prime series. I'm not sure if you ever played Eternal Darkness but that's one of the greatest games I've ever played. The characters are rich beyond comparison for the time. Xenoblade Chronicles has fantastic story. It's really, really good. So good that it goes for 100+ on eBay. Nintendo also has Sin and Punishment, Metroid: Other M, and Smash Bros. Smash Bros is a fantastic game and they tried to provide it a story. They tried to give it some story and that wasn't easy to pull off due to the epic scale of Nintendo and their franchises. Nintendo has so many properties they don't even know what to do with them all and that can be a problem. They have neglected many good franchises to frustrate me with rehashes but I understand they do it because those sell. Sadly the Eternal Darkness games have mostly failed them. It's bizarre but what do you want? They do what makes them money and they treat those loyal with some excellent games. I know you dislike the rehashes of Mario. I can't expect much from those. They are supposed to be light hearted. They are supposed to just be fun. There isn't a lot of story. There isn't supposed to be. What do you expect? Mario waging war or something? Lol. That wouldn't work. They really do the best they can with the Mario franchise. My only complaint is they keep releasing the same game lol.

http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/gamers-without-internet-can-stick-with-xbox-360-says-microsoft I'm on mobile. I can't reference info in the article easily but to paraphrase Microsoft is saying if you want an offline device they have one--the Xbox 360. Does anyone else think that's one of the dumbest statements ever?

Yeah. Hopefully they let you. That is bogus that they charge more. I read on ign that the PS3 is region free.

So I am easily amused? I happen to like those games. I think they've had plenty of original games.

That does suck. Sorry to hear that. I'm just not liking the new Xbox. Way too many loops for me to jump. I feel like there's too much to this. It seems way too complicated--unnecessarily so.

Yeah, but you only need to connect once a day. Does it go out for extended periods? You can still play offline games as long as it can connect once daily.

I just read a nice article on IGN about the Xbox1. I have to say, unless Microsoft changes some of these things I will probably not choose this console. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/06/microsoft-details-xbox-one-used-games-always-online I won't reference the entire article; you can read it yourselves. I will simply point out highlights I found a tad disturbing: 1.) Always Online: “With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies." Not a big deal, though I think that could affect some users because not everyone always has an Internet connection. I realize that most do have one and those who don't probably won't be playing Xbox, but there are those who this will affect. Sucks for them. 2.) Used Games and Giving Games to Friends: "There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.” They talk a lot about how Microsoft makes no money off of this. I really don't care about that. What disturbs me is that they only allow you to re-use a game once. That's absolutely ridiculous. I will tell you that I won't buy a lot of games if that's the case. I rented, borrowed, or bought games to try them out to see if they were worth buying. If not, I returned them. Now, perhaps they will innovate and allow demos & trials of games that will eliminate this concern, but regardless I'm not happy about this. Those were the two key-points that stood out the most to me personally.

I'm not sure. I got the 360 a long time ago but I sold it because I frankly lost interest in it. I never owned the first Xbox. For the limited time I had the 360 it was great online. I loved the online play. The communication really made the games fun. I switched to the PS3 and never turned back having it and the Wii and now Wii U.

Yeah. The perks definitely make the price easier to swallow. Lol.

They definitely won e3. No question there. I can't say they won this console war yet or that the PS3 is definitively the best system between ps3 and Xbox.

What is that last sentence supposed to mean? Nintendo has the best first party games and they definitely don't suck.

Yeah. That is a bit absurd. I guess they're trying to get more money because their currency is stronger lol. I'm not sure.