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Yea -- at least then he'd bring a skill set we dont currently have in any safety on the roster. But, nope... more of a combo guy like what we have.

Not super athletic, but high level instincts and football IQ. Always moving a step or 2 toward the play before it happens. Some ball skills. Probably nothing more than a ST, but maybe could come on as a dime/nickel safety in 2-3 years. Hard to find a whole lot on the guy in terms of tape... but seems like a decent floor/low ceiling type prospect who you feel confident you know exactly what youre going to get... thinking him becoming a Levine type player is close to the best we could hope for. Team guy, hard worker, ST standout that may eventually give you something in a niche role on defense. His instincts and football intelligence seem to be the standout traits though.

Just weird how your inability to spell just randomly turns on and off. One sentence can spell demolition, complexity, immensely, hoard, requirements, etc... But then the next cant spell draft or there. And, show the teams that consistently draft better than the Ravens. Show us the draft hauls.... who they picked and where.

So - tell me. what has been the peak of the Bengals success in the past decade? Impressive. And, yea they drafted better for a small period of time after being a consistent loser and had high draft picks. Since theyve had "success" (making playoffs and losing 1st game every time.... WOW big achievements) their drafting has suffered and theyve found its hard to continue that success when players move on. We've won a playoff game more recently than they have. Honestly i dont know what your gibberish is all about... I dont even remember my feelings about Elam at the time bc i didnt study much college tape back then, but yea, chances are i was optimistic. Bc whether i like a pick initially or not i choose to get on board and hope for the best. thats how i "fan" because its actually more fun. And yes it is smart to "negotiate" your own rookie deal. It is intelligent to do so bc they're slotted. Theres almost nothing to negotiate except offset language and thats pretty standard as well. Whats your point? lol, who's failed more since our championship?? Dumbest statement ever, because it ignore the fact that WE HAVE A CHAMPIONSHIP. And with only 1 playoff appearance since then.... we have WON A PLAYOFF GAME. Something the Bengals have not and will not do, precisely for the reasons i explained. They have the talent to get there, but not the culture or type of players that thrive under pressure of the brightest lights. No one turned a blind eye to Ray. He was a model citizen in college and his time here prior to the incident. They chose to believe his side of the story, since well.... a COURT OF LAW didnt charge him. The video just showed that Ray lied about his version of the story. When they saw what really happened he had to go. btw your spelling thing is old, just give it up. When youre going out of your way to spell things wrong, like players names even (Jimmi Smith) when theyre spelling correctly in posts you read every day... its blatantly obvious. As obvious as your hard on for pft commenter. And yes, im implementing dictator like rules on the new forum. First is that every post must be proof read for accurate spelling and punctuation. So unfortunately youre out. Creating series of multiple screen names so you can hide your identity, and not have your post history tied to you... Its easy to point out other peoples misjudgments from 3-4 years ago when you make a new profile every 3-4 months. Makes it harder to criticize your love for Rob Housler a couple years ago and how with just a few pounds of functional muscle he was going to be the most dynamic TE in the NFL! And how Marqise Lee will be the best slot WR in the NFL. Totally worth a 2nd round pick. What are you going to do after tomorrow? The amount of time you spend on here, in fantasy, pretending to be someone and something youre not -- pretty sad. Dont get much real life interaction, huh?

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didnt he have some off field issues or something? EDIT: yea just looked in to it, hes been suspended a ton. Bowl games, off season stuff where he was suspended for openers at least twice. And for a guy who was the top "athlete" recruit in the nation, the guy has failed miserably to live up to expectations. And honestly, if he wasnt humbled by his failures to be a standout player on the college level in his 3-4 years (whatever it was) i have 0 faith he's suddenly going to change his attitude and be motivated to live up to his natural ability. I love guys who overcome being overlooked or bad circumstances in life or lack of natural gifts to become good players. You can trust those kinds of players usually to do everything they can to live up to their potential. The opposite is true here. I hate guys who have all the natural talent in the world and fail to perform. Especially when theyve had 3+ years to change their attitude or be humbled by not becoming a stand out player in college. What is suddenly going to change? He wasnt embarrassed by being a top national recruit and failing to put up even moderate production in college... hes not going to be embarrassed by going undrafted. He didnt learn from suspensions early on. He didnt learn from missing his first bowl game. This is clearly a guy who feels he's owed something bc he was a high school hero, big fish in a small pond. And if his natural ability wasnt enough to break through at the college level, it wont come anywhere close to being an asset at the NFL level.

The fact that nothing is guaranteed in this scenario doesnt mean much, bc youre giving up a draft pick. Trading a pick just to cut a player, and saying great - well at least there wasnt any guaranteed money - is still a big loss. Hes not going to rework his deal to make it more team friendly. Hes got one last shot at a big FA deal and the cost for very good WR's has eclipsed $10m/yr. His consistent production puts him above guys like Britt, Stills, etc... who signed for $8m+/yr (which is more than his current deal has left) and hes closer to Desean Jackson territory which is above the $10m/yr threshold. Whether with the Jets or a team that trades for him hes going to play out the last 2 years of his deal and test the market where he can make a lot more guaranteed money, more per year and pick where he wants to go. The Ravens would have literally 0 leverage to get him to sign an extension unless it was on par with what he thinks his market value will be in FA.

Classic. eh HEHHH (my written interpretation of the Jada sound)

Interesting. We took the same approach to mocking this thread. Well done, sir.

10.8 per attempt is ABSURD. Wow. Ive never seen that before. Thats literally insane. Thats more than a 1st down every ATTEMPT. Balls leaves his hand - 1st down. Man, i forget sometimes just how amazing he was on that run.

they just declined his 5th year option... which wouldve cost $13m+ and is fully guaranteed for injury so makes sense. But clearly a sign theyre not fully bought in on him.

RIght, enter the draft right away so teams are drafting the player they see right now on tape... go do your 2 years of service which essentially postpones the beginning of your rookie contract. When they come back youve still got player control on a rookie deal for 4 years. In both cases the team is getting a player that will be coming off of 2 years without football. In both cases the team will have 4 years control on a rookie deal. But in one case, the player youre drafting has fresh tape and just came off a season. In the other scenario youre drafting a player whose tape is 2 years old. Youre literally getting the same exact player under the same exact circumstances -- i just think theyd have a better shot at getting drafted if they enter immediately after their college career while their tape, play and achievements are fresh on evaluators minds.

He played soccer from 3-13 years old. Played Rugby at 13 for 1 year. Moved to the US at 14 and started playing football. Hes now played football for 6 years compared to 1 of rugby. Neither is much experience. My point was simply that playing 1 year of rugby probably wasnt enough for him to learn and retain anything meaningful that would carry over to his football playing. Hes now got far more experience playing football, which itself isnt much.

Youre right, defending the wing positions in basketball is near identical in terms of concepts to defending in soccer. On ball defending very similar to 1v1 defending. Never played rugby but considering the countries/cultures that seem to love and thrive at rugby also many cases love and do well at soccer -- i imagine youre spot on with there being many similarities in techniques and skills... And i wasnt discrediting the impact rugby would have on a football player, hope it didnt come across that way. Just that i dont think his 1 year playing rugby (bc it was the closest organized sport to football in his town) would have developed much in him that would stick as a habit.

He played rugby for like a year.... so idk how useful it is. Hes now a much more polished footballer player than he ever was a rugby player. idk that he played long enough for anything to "carry over." But defending in soccer is very similar to defending a pocket. Retreat a little early with one foot forward and one back for balance. But you dont retreat too much and have to be positioned just right so when they try to cut back inside you can cut that attempt off and keep your body positioned inside. The footwork and body positioning is very similar. Staying low for leverage when making contact is key as well. The obvious difference is the amount of contact and the hand use.... but for that his wrestling ability is very useful. All about timing your shoot to land first, and controlling the guy across from you's body and weight... using their momentum against them, etc.. Both 1v1 defending, 2nd/3rd defender and team shape defending concepts probably surprisingly to some have a ton in common... coupled with wrestling seem like a darn good recipe for the base of an OL. Just very rare youd have a soccer player become the size of an OL.

They like Enunwa... and theyre in full on rebuild. I could see them cutting him regardless. Probably tanking for a QB next year, so why not get rid of him and absorb the cap hit now so you have more room the next 2 years to add talent, and so you dont have a talented player on the field who could help you win games and possibly hurt their draft pick.

I would've been completely happy with him at 16. Got him at 78. Steal of the draft so far imo. Do yourself a favor and watch the sports science on him. The explosive get off faster and more powerful than Robert Quinn, thighs as big as Arik Armstead while 40 lbs lighter, tighter/faster spin move than Vic Beasley... Got up to 15 mph in 2 closing steps to the QB delivering a punishing blow. Im salivating.

he was offered D1 scholarships as a wrestler too. And former soccer player, so if he builds up his lower body or cleans up some of his excess weight so he carries his weight better.... he has natural footwork to mirror/match defenders in pass sets. Plus... doesnt really have any bad "habits" so to speak, bc he hasnt been doing this long enough for anything to be a habit. Clean slate, Just a big, giant ball of clay. With pretty darn good athleticism for his size and a background in other sports that should help him at this position.

What if the earth is flat? What if Big Foot does exist? What if Santa isnt real? Why is Jadakiss as hard as it gets?

dont know why you got negged for this. Agree completely. The run game returning to even decent status is the key to this coming season. Bc if we can control the clock, keep Joe in 3rd and shorts (so those Pitta check downs become 1st downs), and open up play action -- FGs and the 1 or 2 big plays per game should make us a very tough team to beat with this defense.

There are reports they might actually cut him. Id at the very least wait to see how hes doing medically. Thats not a contract you want to take on AND give up a pick for if hes not going to be 100%. Though definitely a player to keep an eye on. Wishful thinking, but id love him here.

Exactly. People who thought Elams tackling was a strength did so bc they liked the splashiness.... the boom type hits. But he just wildly threw his body and came in wrecklessly like a torpedo. Problem is he took way too aggressive angles and in the nfl was too small to destroy people so ball carriers just blew by him as he missed or bounced off. Marlon brings the wood but does so with perfect technique -- exploding through the strike zone while wrapping up the legs, scoop and drop. Comparing Marlon to Elam is a joke. For as stubborn as you can be some times, you at least tend to support your opinions based on reality. Thank you for showing some objectivity and calling out garbage when you see it...

ummmmmm, bruh... 11'12"?? You mean, like, 12 feet? Anyways it was 141 inches or 11.75 feet or 11'9"