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Yea but those are 2 isolated incidents... hardly a rule. That'd be like arguing for trading all our picks back to accumulate 6th and 7th round picks bc.... well Antonio Brown and Tom Brady. If it were the case that most guys who have gotten ankle surgery or torn their Achilles right before the draft come back 100% no problem.... then ok. Or that most guys who have shown injury concerns consistently in college overcome them to never be a problem in the pros, then ok. Like i said, taking a chance on 1 guy who you can get for great value bc of an injury concern can be great business. Taking 3 and basing the entire top half of your draft on it might be tempting fate and playing with fire. When you compile that many, youre increasing the risk of at least one of them continuing to have those issues. I guess you could argue that if even 1 of them pans out and lives up to their 1st round talent that itd be worth it. But with a team whose successes/failures will be tied heavily to the impact of this draft; things will burn if we draft another WR Round 1 and he cant play his rookie year. Or if we draft another highly talented pass rusher to be the next Suggs and he never plays much bc of injury like Kindle.

Jason McCourty was let go by the Titans. We're prob done adding vets to the secondary but he wouldve been a nice addition. Prob wouldve preferred him to Carr, but honestly not sure how well hes played of late. Might be saying that on reputation alone. Id imagine he signs with the Pats or the Eagles.

If you switched the 2nd and 3rd picks, i think there is a possibility you could walk away with the same players... but as currently constructed i cant see Tim Williams falling to the 3rd. Theres a realistic scenario or two that he falls to the 2nd... i even mocked him there myself; and similarly a scenario or two that Sid Jones makes it to the 3rd. Im going to go ahead and assume that by Gabrial Peppers you mean Jabrill Peppers... in which case, no way hes there in the 3rd. We'd be walking away with 4 guys that are probably top 20ish talents. But it aint happenin. Peppers doesnt make it past the early 2nd. Tim Williams wont make it out of the mid 2nd. And Sid Jones is prob gone in the 2nd, but not impossible hes there. Switch 2 and 3... but grab someone else with the second 3rd rd pick. It'd still be incredibly optimistic, but could happen.

Would really like this haul.... My only complaint would be Pocic. If we're taking an OL with our 1st 4 picks, which i hope we do, Pocic would be toward the absolute bottom of the list for guys id want. If we're looking for guys that can move the big guys across from them, Pocic isnt it. Hes more of a athlete/technician that will do well in a stretch zone based run game. But i see him struggling with skinny zone, gap and/or power based plays. If the FO likes him, then i wont disagree bc i do think he will turn out to be a good player.... just not a fit for what the coaching staff has said they want from the OL. He's a big dude, but i envision big, low center of gravity, grounded big men... not really tall and thin. And as much as i love all 3 of the prospects.... taking Davis, then Lawson and Sidney Jones -- thats 2 currently injured and coming off surgeries, and another who missed 1 1/2 years out of the last 3 to injuries. I cant say other than Lawson that either of the other 2 are "injury prone" but my gosh with our recent history of injuries; using all 3 of our 1st picks on guys that have "injury" attached to them scares me. Grabbing a plus player who's fallen some bc of a current injury or injury concerns is great.... but basing your entire early draft on it is a risky proposition. If Davis was healthy and ran a 4.4-4.5 40 i dont think he'd make it to us. If Lawson had been healthier hes easily a 1st round talent, and prob right in with Barnett/Reddick/Takk/Taco/Harris in some order... maybe a Top 10-15 guy. And likewise with Sidney Jones. Prob Top 10-20 talent if healthy. There's a reason that its feasible that you could walk away with all 3.

First off, Mike Williams is 6'3"+ almost 6'4" so dont know where youre getting 6'1" from. Second.... yea its a transition for an offense like that to the NFL in terms of learning a playbook; but its usually knowing/perfecting the full route tree for receivers thats the issue. Mike Williams can be given a dumbed down, simplified version of routes and just go win. Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, DeAndre Hopkins (both Clemson guys), Tyler Lockett, Brandin Cooks (almost purely screens and vertical routes), Keenan Allen, Dez Bryant, Alshon Jeffery, AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Demeryius Thomas, Michael Crabtree, etc... All guys taken pretty early in drafts that were either size/speed box out/jump ball type guys, played in very simple offenses for WR's that didnt require complex route running or trees, or some combination of the two that have been very very good to dominant in the NFL. Two of the most recent hailing from that same Clemson offense. Watkins was certainly faster but smaller, lesser catch radius, and didnt work the middle of the field... and Hopkins while a better route runner for sure was also much smaller and slower. Not saying this guarantees him success... but plenty of guys with the same skill sets have become great receivers recently, and others with some of the same skills/traits and from similar or the same exact spread/gimmicky offenses have transitioned fine to the NFL as well. In fact, almost half or more of the best WR's to come out recently fall into this category. List of the 10 best WR's in the NFL and i bet more than 5 have similar traits, similar concerns heading into the draft, and/or came from similar offenses in college. Definitely not a reason to write him off when you see how he was able to raise his game against the best competition.

It kinda does matter. Corey Davis is a SUBSTANTIALLY better WR. Williams isn't gonna be successful. The dudes a DGB slower clone minus the off the field issues. Can't run routes. Yea... Mike Evans has really struggled in the NFL too. Dez and Julio really struggled coming into the NFL as well, not being good route runners....

It kinda does matter. Corey Davis is a SUBSTANTIALLY better WR. Williams isn't gonna be successful. The dudes a DGB slower clone minus the off the field issues. Can't run routes. Yea... Mike Evans has really struggled in the NFL too.

It definitely could be a stretch... but i wont be surprised if teams take a pass on him. Doubtful, but i wouldnt be completely shocked if someone took Ryan Anderson before Williams. I could see any or all of Myles Garret, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, Haason Reddick, Takk McKinley, Taco Charlton, Charles Harris, TJ Watt, Carl Lawson, Jordan Willis, Derek Rivers, Demarcus Walker, and Tyus Bowser going before him. 10 of them arent even really much of a stretch, and the last 3 have been evaluated all over the place. With the combo of the drug/gun arrest, failed tests, limited role, slightly undersized in that he's prob only a fit for 3-4 teams that need an edge rusher.... I dont think its all that crazy. Could he go before? Sure. I wouldnt blink at him going in the 1st round.... i wouldnt mind us taking him at 16. Especially within the context of my mock, i think he's there at 15 in the 2nd. I have 7 guys going in the 1st, and of the teams that pick before us in the 2nd there arent many that need a pass rusher that didnt get 1 in the 1st. I could see maybe 3-4 that could but there are also really good prospects at other positions still on the board. It's not completely crazy that a team goes with Lawson, Harris and/or Willis over Tim Williams.

He should be available in the 6th and possibly UDFA. No reason to spend a 4th on him. And yea, hes got some raw talent. But it seems pretty obvious to me the guy just doesnt take anything too seriously. Another Manziel type story.... prob not the same issues, but im pretty confident if you give this kid some of his own money, and freedom away from his family -- hes going to self destruct. Dont be surprised if hes out of football in a year or 2. I think youre overstating his talent... but even if you werent, talent alone doesnt get it done.

I won't predict how good he could/would be... but I will say if Cleveland loves any of the QBs and think he can be their franchise guy -- they'd only be stupid to risk assuming he'll survive to pick 12. And I do agree, if he panned out and Fournette is who I think he is... behind that OL their offense is pretty tough to stop day 1. They use their glut of day 2 picks and next years draft to get that defense right... they could have that thing turned around pretty quick.

They're that way bc well.... some of them just make too much sense. But i tried to change the 1 that sets the rest of them in motion to see how much it would effect the rest of the round. Youre right though, between the outside opinions being way off... and the likelihood of at least one team trading into/out of that top 5-10 the order of players and matching up with fits is bound to look completely different on draft night.

I went to Bloomsburg which is Kutztowns rival... and was at Bloom with Jahri Evans. Jah was a sensation at the time, hands down the most dominant player the conference had seen in decades. We obviously know how he turned out. Everyone I know that follows the team closely has said that Morgan is even more dominant than Jah was, and a better athlete overall. Ive seen him play live twice and I tend to agree with them. But i cant go as far as to say I'd take him in the 2nd. 3rd I prob wouldn't either. Ultimately I think he'll play at a level that in hindsight will have justified a late 1st/2nd round pick, but the question marks are just too great. The jump from D2 to NFL is real and so is the switch from the left to right or tackle to guard. 4th/5th round though? Count me in and I think we've found a very good starter.

Is it litty? If so... the reason no ones talking about him is bc no one has a clue who he is... and probably doesn't exist.

I actually think Tim Williams is in for a draft day slide. Between the off field, failed drug tests, being somewhat under sized, limited role and lack of experience... coupled with talent/depth at the position -- I just see him falling back. Could easily see 10-12 pass rushers or more go ahead of him... which I think puts him squarely in range for us in the 2nd round. It's really not that tough to argue 10 that could go ahead and if so you'd need a pass rusher to go every 4 picks or more for him not to be there. I also think there will be mixed opinions on Tanoh... some loving him and some having him really low. If he were more explosive/quick I could see a 4-3 team taking a stab in the 2nd.... but I think his best fit is as a 3-4 5T. The upside is huge and I expect the boom, but it's a pick that will require a development plan and patience. I think most teams will want/need more immediate dividends from a 2nd round pick with the depth and talent in this draft. And I fully admit that Langi and Decoud are potentially reaches. Agree totally there. With the 5th-7th and UDFA such a crap shoot... I'm not going to even pretend to have a board that goes that deep or have the expertise to truly deem the value of players in that range. So i chose to mock 2 guys that I like and think have a good chance to become Ravens through either late picks or UDFA.

Appreciate it guys... wasn't pointing out the negs bc I had an issue with them, was just confused bc it was -4 without a single overtly negative comment. Was just asking for the voices behind the negs bc the conversation is what it's all about.

Idk. I have trouble projecting where the RBs could go in this draft. Could see anywhere from 1-4 go in the 1st... and depending on that anywhere from like 3-7 in the 2nd rd. My best guess is he could be taken anywhere from the mid 3rd to the 6th round.

So to those negging my Mock -- is it bc I did something different than take Garret 1st overall, or bc you don't like the picks I project to the Ravens?? If you don't like the picks... why? Dialogue.... feedback.... that's why we post. And if its just bc "well that won't happen -- Myles Garret is def going #1 idiot!!!".... cool I'll take my negs all day bc who wants to read the same exact Mock. . I'd rather play with some scenarios that haven't been covered a million times. Plus... the regurgitated "realistic" mocks hardly ever end up realistic anyways. Idc about negs... but I did post this for conversation so at least provide the negative feedback along with it, unless you have no opinion and just neg to neg. Thats cool too.

My two biggest pet prospects are Jordan Morgan, G/T and Ahkello Witherspoon, CB. I think Witherspoon will wind up being one of the top 3 CB's in a draft that will wind up with 7-8 really good ones. Will be one of the best 2nd CBs in the league and with our trio we'd have the best secondary in the league next year. Plus it'd be really cool to have both our CBs be from the University of Colorado. Get Awuzie too for the heck of it. And Morgan if around in the 4th/5th is a steal. He will be an absolute mauler of an OG and become a 10+ year starter with multiple Pro Bowls. Dorian Johnson is another OG that I think is a lot better than some think. He's my 3rd OG behind Lamp and Feeney.... not counting Cam or Dawkins who I think both can be great OGs but someone will try to make RTs.

I love Tanohs upside. I'd be hesitant in the 2nd, but come the 3rd round id love him. He's raw but he's quite a specimen. With our ability to coach up DL I think he could become a dominant pass rushing 5T in our scheme. And i too prefer pass rusher in the 1st but with both Barnett and Reddick off the board I didn't have anyone close to BPA there... and while I see OL as a bigger need than WR, I had to take my best available player. Wouldve liked to grab one before the 4th but I don't like the depth at pass rusher after the 2nd round, and don't expect any plug and play guys to be there in the 3rd - so I couldn't pass up nabbing 2 guys that I see as having 1st round talent at positions of need. Ended up with Morgan though who I think could be one of the steals of this draft. I think he could step in Day 1 at LG and bring some size/nastiness. With him there and Lewis at RT, bring in Mangold and I like that OL a lot. Rds 5-6 is a crap shoot in terms of who will actually be there so I went with 2 guys that could go anywhere from round 5-UDFA. Langi I know the Ravens like a lot, and so do I. Not a whole lot of film but has everything other than savvy/experience you want in a LB.... and Decoud is my pet pick to become a late round gem.

I think the FO plans on bringing Mangold in and will then target G/T over C/G. Plus ive always viewed Elflein as more of a late 2nd early 3rd pick. I value Feeney, Dawkins and even Dorian Johnson over him and expect all 3 to go somewhere in that early-to-mid-2nd range.

I was going for different/interesting without sacrificing some level of realism.

Yea I would've given us Barnett if colts went OL and then prob grabbed Feeney/Dawkins or Juju isn't the 2nd.

btw, i found this kind of interesting.... This draft will mark 32 years (16 + 16) since Jerry Rice was selected 16th overall. Hmmm.... Could there be a small school standout WR available at 16 noted for his route running, big play ability, and just being an all around playmaker? Ive preferred Williams over Davis; but superstition might be swaying me.

The reason i ask is that im torn. I'm pulling for Barnett, but after sitting down and really thinking about it -- i couldnt decide if its because i think hes the best prospect that has a possibility of being there, or would i truly take him over mostly anyone else. Then tried thinking about who id take over him, i.e. if i was sitting at #2... and just couldnt decide. So im curious to get everyones thoughts... in the event that surprising 1-2 of these guys we think have no shot of being there ends up being. Like Barnett and Hooker are there, or Adams and Barnett... Lattimore, etc... Is there a consensus #2 round these parts?

Question.... except for Myles Garret, who is your favorite prospect, or if you had a choice of any one player who would it be out of guys like: Adams Hooker Barnett M Williams C Davis Allen Thomas Lattimore Fournette Foster Howard Curious... like if we had pick #2.