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It's a joke site, even if the creator takes it seriously.

 

I think the loss of Jacoby Jones really really hurts the team.

 

Getting good field position off kickoffs and punts is VITAL. We all remember the David Reed debacle, we would start yards away from our own endzone quite frequently, backed up on our own goaline even. Other guys besides Reed were returning kicks too but I forget who.

 

Not to mention, Jacoby's CLUTCH playmaking ability ie- the miracle catch in denver.

 

So yea, its very important that we find a returner that can strike some fear into opposing teams the way Jones did.

 

Also, I don't want to see Webb or a defensive player returning or catching punts for us anymore. 

 

David Reed and Tandon Doss both have high return averages behind our ST blocking. Reed led the league in kickoff average in 2010 I believe. Jacoby also turned the ball over a few times and we can certainly do without that. I think we'll be fine. Plenty of guys can fill in.

Good for Tannehill. He didn't crap the bed his first 3 years, so give him 100 million.

Some interceptions, seeing that we traded away our interception leader. You know, the defensive lineman who only played 12 games.

It's obvious that guys like Jernigan and Williams are going to succeed. They've already done so in starting roles. I said Urban because I think he can be a starter despite being on IR all last year. That would be a pretty big surprise.

The Patriots attempt at a defense is just making them look even worse. McNally called the deflator because he was trying to lose weight? LOL. I'm done, how stupid do they think people are. This is what their "Dream Team" of lawyers came up with? 

 

Lawyer 1: How about we say he was called the deflator because he sat on a volleyball one time and it deflated

 

Lawyer 2: Hmm, how about we say he accidentally poked a hole in a raft on a fishing trip and it deflated

 

Lawyer 3: No, no, I got it.... we say he was called the deflator... because he was trying to lose weight! 

 

Robert Kraft: GENIUS! This is why we pay you guys the big bucks!

It's up there with Suh's "I was trying to get out of the way" stomp explanation.

Not that I disagree with us being a top tier team because I feel like we've been one for a while now but you can make these lists for a lot of teams. One or two plays really change games.

Yes, namely New England, Denver, Seattle and Green Bay. All of which are consensus "top tier teams" (except for possibly Manning's declining ability).

Here's what's arguably stopped the Ravens from appearing in 4 of the last 5 Super Bowls:

2010: Webb's punt return TD not called back OR Boldin and Housh don't drop their Endzone/4th down catches, respectively.

2011: Lee Evans.

2014: Edelman's fumble is recovered by a Raven. (By him fumbling in Pats territory, we either score a TD or kick a FG and can kick a FG at the end to win it. The Pats scored as many points as possible after this occurred.)

So yes, I feel like we should be considered one of the best teams going into this season.

Excellent point, both those guys they're now defending are fired lol

When it comes to disposable equipment managers, they're guilty. When it comes to indispensable Tom Brady - "There's no evidence". I would expect a lawsuit against the Patriots seeing that the two men were obviously fired over nothing.

Well, we also had a year when Bernard Pollard and Jacoby Jones made it...

Was there any doubt we would sign him? Most obvious pickup ever.

One problem destroys this narrative: there were two pressure gauges and the official didn't remember which gauge he originally used. The difference between the gauges was notable as well. Reasonable doubt. Not saying the Pats don't deserve a punishment, but I think the punishment handed was definitely overkill. Should have focused on Tom. 8 games+ for him and a fine for the team and mid round draft pick. 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/10/pressure-gauge-discrepancies-undermine-wells-report/

That really doesn't matter. The Pats' balls dropped from 12.5 to 11.1 and 11.5, on average, and the Colts' dropped from 13.0 to 12.6 and 12.5 on average. That means the Pats' balls dropped 1 - 1.5 lbs and the Colt's dropped about .5. 

Let's say the Colts' balls were initially measured by the "low" gauge and therefore accidentally overinflated, and were then measured by the "high" gauge and therefore appeared to deflate less than they actually did. 

Let's also say the Pats suffered the exact opposite: recorded too high initially and then measured too low.

Since the gauges are .4 apart, that means in reality, the Colts' balls dropped .9 lbs while the Pats' dropped between .6 and 1.1 (averaging 8.5). In any other situation, the numbers would be at least .2 lbs out of the Pats' favor and indicate cheating.

So, only possible explanation for the Pats' balls not being deflated is that the officials used different gauges to test each team's balls (which I presume doesn't happen), and with a 6.25% chance, the above scenario occurred. And it just so happened that there's a whole lot of evidence that the Brady orders the equipment managers to do this anyway. 

1. The balls were definitely stolen after being checked and brought into the bathroom after.

2. Two equipment managers have records of talking about deflating footballs at the request of Brady.

3. Brady refused to cooperate with the investigation.

4. The Pats' balls were measured to be significantly more deflated than the Colts', at a differential more than twice the original .5 estimate.

End of discussion.

Glad this happened. Just a ball or not, it's the principle of this particular team constantly stretching the rules of the game. And the fact it's "just the ball" is even more pathetic on the Pats. Just play football!

Technically, there's no rule in the rulebook against deflating stolen footballs in the AFCCG against the Colts during the waxing crescent phase of the moon. Belichick just has a higher mastery of the game. But I guess if you want to call that "stretching the rules", I could almost see where you're coming from. 

Maybe if all our top paid players except Flacco don't get injured again we can win it this time.

Not that my opinion really carries weight, but I was always critical of Torrey and Jacoby, although I come to like them as people. On the field, I don't see the same with Breshad at all. I see a player with the capability to become a true #1 receiver (or at least, a valuable weapon). Torrey to me was always a complimentary piece who struggled mightily against good CBs and Jacoby as a WR is "just a guy". Breshad still has work but he's a real threat. Not like anyone we've had in a while.

Wait, they seriously said that?

Yes, it's in the previous quote here:

Do you just know in your hairy beer-gut that a team with the Patriots' spotty cheating history absolutely did this?

See, according to the site, minor speculative infractions like carry a larger weight than things like Spygate, which can be explained away as "accidentally taping from the wrong angle", which everyone does anyway. Well, Belichick and understudy Josh McDaniels do, apparently.

Also, the author of the site implicates every team of stealing other team's signals by videotaping from the front (which is akin to simply looking at the coach from your sideline) to the same degree as the Patriots videotaping from the back (which is akin to actually having the other team's playbook).

Check out more Pats saltiness - this under the Colts' page labeled "Suck for Luck-gate": http://yourteamcheats.com/IND

As Colts reporter fan Doyel proclaimed, "perception is reality" and the perception around the league is that "Suck For Luck" was a thing. Without the discovery of a bombshell email from Colts' management or ownership, NFL fans will have to rely upon observed data to judge whether the Colts lost on purpose in order to draft the replacement for their injured and aging quarterback

When it comes to the Colts, in the lack of definitive evidence, speculation can derive guilt. But when the observed data is against the Pats in the vein of deflated footballs and a guy who calls himself "the deflator", clearly it's all hooey. 

 

According to ProFootballTalk, the one football that was 2 PSI under the limit was the ball intercepted by D’Qwell Jackson and taken to the Colts sideline and ultimately submitted to the NFL to launch an investigation. The NFL chose not to investigate whether the Colts intentionally manipulated that football before submitting it.

107 days later, NFL independent investigator Ted Wells gave up his search for concrete evidence and guessed that there was at least a 51% chance that the Patriotsmight have been involved in the deflation of the game footballs.

Facts, schmacts, who needs them? Do you just know in your hairy beer-gut that a team with the Patriots' spotty cheating history absolutely did this? This page is just for you. I think you'll like it.

Just in case you think this wasn't written by a Pats fan, they post the false report that only one ball was underinflated (it was actually 11) and accuse the Colts of potentially cheating. Then interpret "more than likely" (which is legally the strongest "yes" you can give in the absence of an actual confession or video) as "51%" - or a crapshoot. Following, their final logical conclusion is that "the Pats probably didn't cheat because they aren't renowned cheaters".

There you have it, folks! Ignore the text messages implicating Brady, ignore the evidence of the balls being stolen from the official's room and brought to the bathroom, ignore the fact that one of their equipment managers calls himself "the deflator". Clearly Goodell just hates the Pats for some reason!

According to the Pats boards every team does it, but there's also no evidence that the Pats did it. So apparently everyone but the Patriots are cheaters.

It doesn't matter, all we're gonna hear about is how Roethlisberger didn't even make the list. I mean since Flacco obviously outplayed him in his own house...

You know, when I go to the bathroom, I usually bring 12 footballs with me.

Doesn’t everybody?

No, that's ridiculous to assume that everyone goes to such unnecessary lengths to do something so routine as going to the bathroom.

But for some reason when I steal 12 footballs from the Officials room, I always suddenly have to pee immediately.

Over the past few years I've learned that every team deflates the balls a little, every team provides cash incentives to injure players and every team has hazing rituals that leave teammates emotionally scarred. Apparently every team is a bunch of lying, cheating, malicious scumbags so I've grown numb to all this.

Compared to Torrey, Perriman ran .2 seconds faster in the 40, has a bigger catch radius (can actually dive for the ball!), better body control, more physical...  but "same thing", right? 

The QB he had during his final year seems to have had zero touch and threw fastballs most of the time. Not to mention his lack of accuracy.

Gonna be a rough year for Torrey...

Waller will probably be a practice squadder. If someone wants to take him from the PS, they'll have to sign him to their active roster, which no team would reasonably do since he's such a project. 

I think we carry 5 WRs since we drafted 2 TEs and an RB we'll want to keep.