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22 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Soooo... where are we going?

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4 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Are you sure you were watching Siragusa #56?

I just rewatched that game to see if I missed something... and I didn't see these things. I counted him on the ground once and that was from momentum carrying over a pile of legs - not getting knocked over. 

Counted 4 or 5 pulls where he found his man and drove him back to create a nice running lane for 5+ yd gains. 1 he whiffs and it leads to a bad loss. 

Theres another 4 plays where id credit him with an exception run block... almost singlehandedly creating a hole that lead to big runs. 

And twice on stunts he passed the initial man off nicely and quickly squares his shoulders back up to engage the second defender and walls him off completely. 

 

They ran with a lot of heavy formations and I found myself on at least 7-8 plays having to rewatch bc I accidentally was focusing on #70 or 72 (something like that) thinking it was Siragusa. And he was constantly on his back. Almost every time I went ahhh I see what Joey was saying... it ended up I was watching the wrong guy. 

Maybe im still missing it. Or maybe you credited some of those major flaws to the wrong guy like I found myself easily doing????

 

Not sure. But I thought he had a pretty darn good game. I see the power, the anchor, recognition on stunts and an ability to pull. And definitely the finishing. Always going to the whistle and beyond to put his man down. 

I'm certain it was 56 lol it was just San Jose state though, Wyoming and Houston he was absolutely dominant. 

1 minute ago, rossihunter2 said:

im glad you mentioned that wyoming game because i just watched it and he looked pretty solid - I know he's bigger than guys we've drafted in recent ravens history but he didnt seem to work as well when pull-blocking which i guess could be problematic if we are moving to a power scheme like it seems we are - i worry that he's a boom-bust kind of prospect for us...

If we run a gap scheme and slowly convert to a power scheme as guys like goose get acclimated to pulling and learn some better technique then it could work. But I'm just not sure he can acclimate. He doesn't seem to have that skillset to work in space

2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Would anyone care to explain Williams' extremely poor 3 cone time of 7.36 that's really bad for an undersized edge guy who's labeled as a fast twitch player. Meanwhile Bowser had a 6.75

As explosive and flexible as he is, his footwork isn't the greatest. He takes wide steps and has a tendency to lose balance and get heavy feet

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45 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I've never heard of that Mason reference. The only thing that came to mind were nike X-trainers

It was some inside training camp video, just players goofing off and stuff. It was a one time thing and it stuck with me

14 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

it'll be weird not seeing joeyflex5... maybe you can keep the flacco fu manchu as a compromise?

its already done. 

just waiting on it to be activated lol. its just Flex5 now. i feel strange that so many people here refer to me as joey, and my name is in no way joey lol. 

i know its a flacco reference... but it almost feels like im catfishing.

11 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Im telling you. Watch the game vs houston. You have to watch the donnel pumphrey tape though. Hes lined up at LG across from ed oliver(one of the most disruptive dlinemen in all of college football)

just watched. he had a good game. he pretty consistently plowed holes open against weaker opponents and held his own against oliver, at times he looked like he was pass protecting vs oliver but hes a freak and being able to anchor down and hold your own against that guy is respectable. he appears too susceptible to get too wide on his back shoulder on stretch zones, he got taken advantage of early twice in that game, once by bowser and once by oliver, he just stepped too far to the playside and gave up penetration off his back shoulders. but that also falls on the LT and is also coachable. as far as pass pro and gap blocking goes, im starting to see the upside. 

however, i dont see a power scheme guard with him. ive seen him whiff on too many pulls, fail to use hands on moving blocks, and get lost in space way too often for my liking. when it comes to knocking guys around in a phone booth and putting grown men on their butts though, he looks like he can do that

3 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Im telling you. Watch the game vs houston. You have to watch the donnel pumphrey tape though. Hes lined up at LG across from ed oliver(one of the most disruptive dlinemen in all of college football)

ill watch that next

his game against wyoming was MUCH better. there seems like something was wrong with him vs San Jose St.. because he was dominant vs wyoming. he put his man to the turf very often.

was nico siragusa injured this year or something? i am not seeing the same player yall are talking about apparently. i was highly unimpressed by his film the first few ttimes i watched, and i went back, looking to talk myself into liking him, and still am not seeing it. 

he gets knocked on his butt constantly, he'll get tunnel vision on one man and as soon as another guy bumps him he seems to go tumbling down. he gets really average push, on pull blocks he doesnt even attempt to use his hands and whiffs often, he gets average push and fails to finish, you often see the RB come behind him and the defender disengaging to make the tackle. ive only watched his san jose state game recently, but i watched 3 of his games months ago and recall having a lot of the same impression. ill go watch his other games again to see if im missing something, but i feel like i am watching someone totally different from you guys

1 minute ago, RayRayRaven said:

ill cop to bein a troll if ull cop to bein the biggest homar to evah post anywhere when the rravens make good choices u wont here boo from me

But I'm not a homar bruh. 

I just hope for the best when we make moves because I want for us to be a better team.

3 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Bowser seems fine but I wish we used that pick on Anderson, especially now that we have Williams as well. I really believe Steelers and Ravens dropped the ball there, us with Bowser and them with Watt. Skins front with Allen and Anderson will be terrible thing to play against.

I like bowser better. Better in coverage for sure and shows a higher ceiling as a pass rusher, less refined as a rusher but I think he should take to coaching well and pan out better than Anderson who has less natural tools and wins with better hand usage 

Steve you pretty consistently create new threads, they always have picture examples, and they are always completely worthless. 

Sad thing, you're trying, you are dead serious. At least rayray is an obvious troll

Watched more film, his Louisville game was beautiful despite barely recording a stat. I've never seen a qb break down and extend so many times in one game because a LINEBACKER took away multiple reads. His zone awareness was brilliant. He was crossing the field, showing blitz then dropping, standing deep and surveying before bringing a blitz. He obviously understands the concept of baiting and disguising. He feels defenders moving behind him and very fluidly rolls around with them, he's got extremely light and quick feet.

as an edge rusher, he's gotta learn to finish. He gets reckless and allows himself to get totally eliminated, he either breaks down his technique and lets the blocker latch on last second because he went for the sack before disengaging, or he just trips himself up. You can see him getting the upper hand early and showing some great footwork along with some decent but inconsistent handwork, he shows some competence as a rusher but always fails to finish it seems, he's gotta settle down when he gets to that finishing move at the end of his rush and finish disengaging. 

I don't know if he's a ILB in a 34, I like how he moves in space, he would be amazing at covering between the hash and flats between the LOS and 20 yard mark, yes he is athletic enough to zone drop to disrupt the timing and then stick a receiver 20+ yards downfield. He is like an extra db who will be very disruptive as a pass rusher

Requesting mods shut down the board early smh

8 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Hopefully that doesn't mean he'll bite on the screen pass to edleman then edleman pass to amendola. Still haunts me

A lot of players would've bit on that. Kudos to bill for having the stones to call that play in that moment and kudos to edelmandola for executing it to perfection 

9 minutes ago, Italian Raven said:

I'd rather link Harris to the spin move, as his comes with better timing (nothing that can't be improved). 

What I think William does already better than anyone in the class, though, is countering (something that we know Takk and even my boy Laws were missing). He's a really natural and explosive pass rusher. We can only hope he'll manage to keep himself clean at this point.

Harris' spin move looks really ineffective to me. He spins while continuing in the same direction and doesn't counter back inside effectively when he does it, at least not consistently. Harris has a tendency to do some crazy beautiful stuff and just as often fail miserably to use the same tactic. When Harris spins lightning fast but doesn't even change directions it frustrates me so bad. Williams completely reverses his Path on his spin

2 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

When i said best pass rusher i meant it by his prototypical length and his array of moves. I love barnett but he doesnt have the length and explosion tim has. He also only really uses his dip and rip to get by tackles. Tim can beat you with like 5 moves lol

Barnett can as well, his moves are just more subtle. Obviously Barnett isn't as explosive as a lot of guys, and the value of williams at 78 compared to Barnett at 14 is obviously a win for us. But I think barnetts ability to play chess and make tackles second guess themselves and barnetts ability to capitalize on every little opportunity is special 

7 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I wasn't making a player comparison in terms of Humphrey and Hargreaves as prospects because they're extremely different in quite a few ways. I was comparing their draft stock when the year started and ended. 

Ahh I gotcha. I remember Humphrey being touted as a top 5 pick everywhere I looked and I was like what the hell film are you guys watching? Lol. I never had him very high but I love his ability to blow up short passes and always liked his upside if he could develop some patience and mentally collect himself a little bit when the receiver gets a half step

2 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Not at all. I always thought Williams was the best pure rusher in the draft and thats all he'll be asked to do here. I see an 8+ sack season for Tim

I think Barnett is the best pass rusher but he's also a 3 down defender. Williams is hands down the best speed rusher and really Garrett is just the biggest freak. 

2 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

As one of the biggest fans of Myles Garrett here, I'd agree he's overrated. I just love the guy as a person. He's also a Hell of a football player. That said, I think Tim Williams is in a better spot to succeed than Garrett because the Browns have guys but Garrett has a lot to do there. One player can have a huge impact though just like Watt did. The thing with Garrett is he also has his issues and areas to improve and I'm not confident in Cleveland to get him there

I won't say Myles Garrett is the most overrated in X years. BUT... of all the super hyped prospects that actually were gonna become great players, Garrett seemed to be more overhyped than most. 

46 minutes ago, atomicfront said:

 

Nothing like watching your favorite TV show.  The only thing you see on TIV is the commissioner walks up to the mic.  The fans boo him and then he says Baltimore Ravens select .....   I don't watch it on TV as it is complete boring and just watch the draft tracker.  A fair comparison would be how I don't waste my Sunday fall afternoons sitting indoors so I DVR the Ravens day games.  I have had people tell me the score when I specifically told them not to.  That is spoiling watching the game for me.  You had nothing spoiled for you.  You got the news when the pick was made and announced to everyone in the world except on NFL Network where they are more concerned about showing you commercials than showing you the picks as they are made. If you should be complaining complain to NFL Network for their delayed announcing of the picks. 

The pick was over five minutes old when I posted it on  here.  How am I supposed to know that they would delay it that long?  So someone posting on the Internet who doesn't have a cable package is somehow supposed to determine when they announce it on TV to discuss it?  Even though it was announced on the Internet over 5 minutes before the posting

So because you don't like the draft as much as others, it's ok for you to spoil it? How about don't damn spoil it when the mods clearly tell you not to? Is it so hard?

5 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

It's funny because you know who I think of when I think about Humphrey and how people are disappointed with the pick? I think of Vernon Hargreaves last year who was widely viewed as the best college CB coming out until people cooled down on him significantly. 

I never cooled on vh3, I actually didn't like him at first and he grew on me. And I still think he will be an elite corner once he adjusts to the NFL better. He's still very small and needs to adapt to maximize his abilities as a small shifty corner.

but I don't see Humphrey in the same light. Vh3 was incredibly refined yet small and more fluid than fast. Humphrey is a big physical guy who is more explosive/fast than fluid.

1 minute ago, balfan23 said:

 Given one was selected #1 overall and the other selected in the 3rd round - I'd say yes. If Garrett plays to expectation and their production is even near comparable, the Williams will probably be the steal of the draft. 

I may be in the minority here, but I think Garrett is vastly overrated, as a projection he is elite, but as a rookie I don't think he is the world beater he's made out to be right now. Plus tru makes a great point, his job will be much harder. 

Williams will have fresher legs and I actually think he disengages better than Garrett, his spin move is about the most impressive pass rush move in this whole draft aside from barnetts dip and bend.