JoeyFlex5

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

@JoeyFlex5 Thought youd find this very interesting. https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl/updated-look-edge-defender-class-2017-nfl-draft/amp/

I have to think Derek Barnett may only have one true thing hes good at. Hes a one demensional edge bender. A very good one at that though. The lack of burst off the snap is worrisome though 

The guy that made this list also made a video with Matt Waldman in the RSP film room on Carl Lawson. Its very detail orriented breakdown and I learned a lot and made me have another perspective when evaluating edge rushers

The fact that he has Solomon Thomas in the second tier of edge rushers makes me really struggle to take it serious.  I don't even see Thomas as an edge guy, seems like most agree. 

5 hours ago, Edgar said:

If we take a corner that high, I'd have to be able to trust him in man.  I'm not comfortable with Humphrey.

He bites on double moves from guys I've never heard of. Gets panicky when someone gets a step, doesn't turn to find ball and has poor awareness.

You often see him lose right off the line to quick receivers. His limitations in man are covered at times by Alabama's ability to get to the quarterback....I see him beat but quarterback is running for his life.

I do see his potential and I love his physicality but don't get him that early.

You know who else this scouting report describes to a T? Jimmy smith as a draft prospect. They are very similar and as a rookie jimmy had alot of the same concerns. He was better in man coverage because he could bump and run so well, but as a rookie he bit on double moves often, panicked when he lost a step, and struggled to turn his head to play the ball, and eventually he developed some off style coverage game, learned NFL receivers ways, and stopped biting on double moves, he also has gotten very good at turning to locate the ball, not the best ball skills but he gets his hand on the ball to knock it away as well as any corner in the league. 

Marlon Humphrey is one of those guys that really just needs some coaching because none of his problems are deal breakers because they can all be improved relatively easily

Moton in the fifth is a bold prediction imo. 

Curious as to why we take a qb 4th round? Is it because we want a backup or because you think it's time to slowly phase joe out?

2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

I love the draft but I really can't see us choosing Corey Davis if Rueben Foster is on the board. If we select bpa I can't see Davis being ranked above Foster. But, after all the issues with Foster who really knows? If it pans out that we get the first 3 rounds like you've mocked I'll be done for the day and ecstatic!

I think fosters just got too many incidents piled up. I think less of foster now than I thought of tunsil on draft night, because one guy seemed to always be surrounded by drama and the other seemed to always cause drama. 

 

2 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Flex is a huge contributor to this board. Even when you don't always agree. He is fun to talk football with. So lets everybody do the opposite of the neg!! BTW Flex do one more mock on draft day!!

 

Thanks brotha I appreciate that! Just a hobby and a bit of a passion of mine, loved football since I was a teenager and since I can't bust heads anymore this is how I've been able to stay in touch with it lol. 

Maybe I'll do one more if things change enough, if the rumors are all the same though there wouldn't be much point

37 minutes ago, Boddiebroadus said:

Someone who I think other people would be upset with but I wouldn't is Malik McDowell. I'd much rather have him as a trade down target but dudes a freak. I don't think he'll be very productive day one and people might call him a bust but with our coaching staff and locker room I think year 2/3 he will be a pro bowler. 

 

He he has a lot of boom bust potential I'll admit and he's not my favorite choice I just wouldn't hate it. 

I think his talent level is up there with Garrett and Adams. If he was a grade A character he very well could be first overall

15 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

good stuff. I just wonder if the FO is more interested in willis or bowser than t.williams.

I knew you'd bring up Willis smh. 

I think bowser and rivers are serious contenders for our second, both seem to be rising and I like them both as natural 34 rushers. Basham in the third as well. But Tim Williams is undoubtedly my top guy

14 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Have you watched Barkley from Penn State?

I like him better than Chubb. I'd prob take him over Fournette. Power, burst, vision, insanely quick feet, can catch out of the back field. 

Hes my dream pick for next year. Being in range to grab him would be a nice consolation if we have a crappy season this year. I think he'll be the top RB for sure. 

agreed, barkley looks incredible, he looks like a far more powerful shady mccoy. 

i almost hope we have a down year just so we can draft him, and hopefully the coaching staff and FO stay together and we take barkley and dominate with the run game for the next 5 years

8 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I actually think Davis is the most likely to be there of all the guys who get a lot of love here. More likely than Barnett, Mike Williams or Foster. 

And I'll be more surprised if Tim Williams isn't on the board for our 2nd pick. While there's clearly a lot to like -- multiple failed drug tests, the arrest, under sized for the position, incredibly small sample size in that even in his senior year he was largely a role player and was surrounded by the most ridiculous front 7 in college football... I'm sure several NFL teams would trade out their current front 7 for Bama's  

There are just a ton of quality pass rushers at the top of the draft.... and plenty in all forms. There's raw but explosive guys that are cleaner off the field like Reddick, Takk, Taco, Bowser.... there's big time producers with much longer track records that played 3 downs like Barnett, Harris, and maybe Willis... and then you've got your guys with limited sample sizes and injury issues but have big time upside like TJ Watt and Carl Lawson. 

And each of those guys may have one or two of the knocks you could put on Williams, but are cleaner prospects in other regards. And all of them were able to produce without much around them. 

I like his upside just as much if not more than any of the others. But he's definitely got the heaviest baggage to overcome. Lots of questions to ask for that high of an investment...

Is a team going to spend a 1st on a guy that may only be able to play 20-30% of snaps? Can he pack on weight to his frame and even if he can does he maintain those explosive traits that make him such a juicy prospect? Will he be able to stop the weed or is he going to be constantly suspended? Does he have the right group around him off the field? Can he thrive without having a huge talent advantage surrounding him? Would his production stay on par with the top guys if he wasn't constantly rested and was asked to carry a full snap load? Do we even know what his motor is like, especially in the 4th qtr when games are won and lost in the NFL, if we ask him to play anything more than 3rd downs??

 

The upside is obvious. It smacks you in the face. But, 1st round is a high price with all of those legitimate questions to ask. And most teams don't have the pipeline to Bama that Ozzie does to get those answered. So I imagine they'll be even less comfortable than we would. 

tim williams strikes me as a decent guy with a good head on his shoulders actually. he doesnt interview very well but he comes off as sincere and genuine. hes one of those guys that i think will be fine after a change of scenery. and this is a 180 im doing on him as well, because when i heard about the gun incident i wrote him off completely, i thought he was another rolando mcclain, but after seeing interviews of him i changed my tune.

1 hour ago, Somerset Ravens said:

I am a big fan of your draft. Your address of lot of needs and for some reason I thought you were a BPA guy. The value in the third round is exceptional. Elflein is a huge upgrade for us at center. I am a fan of Desmond King and would really like him on our roster. He can help at corner but I seeing him eventually being Weddle's replacement. King would also be valuable in the return game where we have a dire need.

Good job !

i am a BPA guy but i dont like to ignore needs either, also if we go strictly BPA for a full mock then i have to mock every pick for every team and stick to a board lol. ravens also like to balance bpa and need, if they get an absurd value they will abandon need completely, but if 2 guys are relatively close in value theyll opt for the need more often than not, the 2014 draft is a prime example of that. so im just taking our needs and saying "if this guy is here as expected based on projections, then the value and need will both be great on the ravens board". 

45 minutes ago, January J said:

Orgasmic. I'm salivating over here.

How much thought do you think we put into taking Davis over Foster if they're both there like you suggested? I imagine that would be a tough call. I'd probably go Davis too in the end but I'd feel uneasy about it.

im starting to not like foster. was able to let things slide, i figured maybe things were really bothering him with the combine incident, maybe the rumors about his attitude and partying are overblown because hes a young punk in college, but then after all these things you hear that in the most crucial time of his life he is quite possibly taking some kind of drugs and tampering with his urinalysis, everything starts to come together and it looks bad. the shoulder and the concussions make him a non option for me at 16, and i have a strong feeling the ravens feel the same. if he were to fall to 47 its a different story.

10 minutes ago, Edgar said:

I see it as more likely Barnett is on the board than Corey Davis.

It will surprise me to see Tim Williams available mid two.

Round six I like a lot.

I don't think he makes it past the bengals saints and colts. And I also don't think Corey Davis is nearly as unanimously loved by pro scouts as he is by fans, I'm thinking there are a few specific teams who really like him and the rest are low on him. 

And I think the ravens are in the former group 

16 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Yea I like Davis better. If not for injury concerns I think he'd be more regularly talked about in the conversation with Foster as the top ILB in the draft. 

Apparently there's quite a few teams that have Davis above Foster. 

And I think his strength is his sideline to sideline range and coverage ability. 

Personal opinion but I think Davis is the much better prospect. I don't think Cunningham comes off the board until day 2. 

But that's preference... not an issue with the Mock. Bc I do think it's near 100% certainty that the Dolphins pick a pass rusher or athletic LB. 

I think a hybrid style safety is also in the mix for Miami, melifonwu peppers and baker all crossed my mind for their pick, but I think they go with a real LB instead. 

I think Cunningham is a pretty underrated guy and I feel like NFL team will like his range and length and iq

1 minute ago, SepticeyePoe said:

I don't want to sound picky, but I'm not sure the Bills would draft Williams to play QB, unless they're really desperate lol.

Oh hell lmao

6 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Just like no one should ever respond to him, but alas.....

Love it man. Those first four picks i think would be huge for both sides of the ball for us.  Ill check out the other guys as well.  I like how you went different routes then most.  I prefer Mwill over Davis but i would be more than happy considering the rest of the draft.  Hope you nailed it. 

I prefer mike will myself but he goes to buffalo here and I just don't see him being available, meanwhile I have this strong feeling that decosta is all smokescreen about Davis 

9 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

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1 minute ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Overall nice Mock. Like it. 

One thing though... I cannot see the Dolphins taking Cunningham over Jarrad Davis. 

I think Cunningham is the better player and the better fit. The dolphins have a real good front but they need a sideline to sideline LB, and I like his ability to man up to a guy like gronk twice a year and be a headache against the short and intermediate game of the pats, who are clearly their toughest obstacle.

On 4/21/2017 at 11:19 PM, RayRayRaven said:

unless u project another team will pic a guy you gota have. in this draff I call la chargers havin r guy and wuld attemt to trade up for litty

Is litty Malik hooker? 

Heres the thing... I don't do mock drafts to try to land the guy I like most, I try to be as realistic as possible for all teams. I am 100% certain the ravens aren't trading up to 6 to take Malik hooker, so why the hell would I mock that? 

3 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

doan buy the noteshon that you make your pics based on who you thing other teams will pic.  you set down ur pics an rate them by need or best available joey has some has some hes off on none of which matta to the ravens so per joey if tenissee takes cory davis we take who? projectin what otha teams will do jus doesn't even matta

Then nobody should ever do mock drafts I guess

18 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I don't think Ross falling that far is too crazy. In my mock, I was very close to having Arizona go Mahomes at 13 and if that happened, Ross was falling out of the 1st round for me. 

Glad I'm not the only one. After I realized I forgot about him, I decided he'll go to the cowboys, but then I looked back to find a fit, and all i could really consider was either philly or detroit, and they already both had better options there

 

14 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Like your early picks a lot. Looking forward talent at offensive line in later rounds is like looking for your contact lens in an ocean. I'm not a huge Elflein fan. I don't hate'em but not a fan really.

We'll see bisnowaty is a guy who was probably a 3rd rounder at worst if he was able to play healthy the past 2 years, and before guys like moton and Dawkins and what not started rising, he was a guy who was often in that day 2 circle, so I was familiar before, and noticed that his stock just plummeted since then. I like elflein a lot and always have, I don't get why he's fallen

1. Cleveland Browns - Myles Garrett, edge, TA&M 

2. SF 49ers - Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU - really hard projection here, my gut tells me Jamal Adams goes here as he is probably the BPA, but the reports of the new regime wanting to move on from Hyde and being interested in fournette make it difficult to go a different route. 

3. Chicago Bears - Jamal Adams, S, LSU - another tough one to call, i hear they like hooker, but i also hear they like adams. in this case, im gonna go stick to the board and give the bears the BPA who fills a need and brings a face of the franchise type of player 

4. Jax Jaguars - Solomon Thomas, DL, Stanford - Jonathan Allen strikes me as a Tom Coughlin guy, but Im buying the hype around his shoulder arthritis, this early in the draft it is just too much risk. i think Thomas is overdrafted here, but Coughlin is no stranger to working with raw guys with superb athleticism, like Jason Pierre-Paul for example, Coughlin is also a very well known front seven addict. hopefully this pick doesnt sound too cliche 

5. Tennessee Titans - OJ Howard, TE, Bama - too great a fit. this team has nothing as far as receiving threats, with a franchise QB who extends plays well and can get it deep on broken plays, so a 6'5" behemoth athlete like Howard will be able to get down the field and bail out Mariota often on play action passes. speaking of play action, theyre a power running offense, emphasis on power, OJ Howard is the best blocking tight end i may have ever seen, he never leaves the field for this power run team, is always a threat, this is just a match made in heaven. 

6. NY Jets - Marshon Lattimore, CB, OSU - every source in the world seems to report either this, or a trade back with cleveland. either makes sense, i cant realistically think of any other options here. hooker is my BPA at this point, but i feel the jets are going to prioritize CB 

7. LA Chargers - Malik Hooker, FS, OSU - if either safety is on the board here, they will be the pick. replacing weddle at all costs is almost certainly their plan 

8. Carolina Panthers - Jonathan Allen, DL, Bama - and the tumble stops here. Carolina is a BPA team through and through, which is why i dont buy the mcaffrey rumors at all. they feel they have a championship roster, and they do, which is why they can afford to take Allen here, if his shoulder injury puts him out of the league by year 5, then they could have still won a championship with him as a major contributor. 

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Derek Barnett, edge, Tennessee - sad face 

10. Buffalo Bills - Mike Williams, QB, Clemson 

11. NO Saints - Taco Charlton, edge, Michigan - saints are gonna address either secondary or edge rush here, im thinking the latter. i dont like taco much at all, but i can understand why teams see potential, he probably has the best blend of size and athleticism and really does have a high ceiling, i just dont like his floor. 

12. Cleveland Browns - Mitch Trubisky, QB, UNC 

13. Arizona Cardinals - Marlon Humphrey, CB, Bama 

14. Philadelphia Eagles - Christian Mcaffrey, RB, Stanford - totally buying the rumors that a team in the top half has guaranteed him a drafting, why else would he have turned down all private workouts? he has nothing to prove, thats why. philly makes more sense than any other team, give the young franchise qb an easy outlet 

15. Indy Colts - Forrest Lamp, G, WKU - theyve drafted a lot of linemen and they all seem to be failures, maybe because they have only drafted one high and have tried to get by with a bunch of flyers in mid rounds, they right that ship here and finally get luck a solid blocker 

16. Baltimore Ravens 

 

Corey Davis, WR, WMU - is this finally the year? do we finally find the #1 WR? a guy who can get quick separation and make himself available? a guy who can turn 2 yard catches into first downs? decosta has been in full smoke screen mode, he spoke of all 3 first round receivers, and sounded indifferent about davis, very nonchalant, and with the rumors linking the ravens to john ross, it seems like classic decosta smokescreens. im calling his bluff and predicting that corey davis is high on our boards, and that we pull the trigger here. now i dont think corey davis is some sure fire savior to our offense, he isnt the concrete lock to perform well on day one, he has shown excellent and technical routes, but due to the amount of cushion he has faced he has never had to show creativity and savviness in his game, and when he has faced tight coverage he has struggled. now he has absurdly quick feet and is a big strong guy and plays very physical, so i dont doubt he can learn this part of the game. i just dont think hes as refined as some say, but he will continue to develop those finer parts and become a very good receiver for us. 

17. Washington Redskins - Reuben Foster, LB, Bama - the skins have always been known to have a few knuckleheads on the roster, i dont think theyll mind the risk involved with foster when considering the gigantic upgrade he brings to their struggling defense who is in desperate need of an identity and a man in the middle. 

18. Tennesse Titans - Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado - buying the hype 

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Dalvin Cook, RB, FSU 

20. Denver Broncos - Cam Robinson, G/RT, Bama - they need a lineman anywhere and this is a BPA to fill a need scenario. he isnt the BPA but he is far and away the best current lineman 

21. Detroit Lions - Haason Reddick, OLB, Temple - the lions need some impact on defense, the best way to do that is to add some pass rush across from ziggy and the general motor and speed of reddick will be a huge boost in the pass happy NFC north. 

22. Miami Dolphins - Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt - they have a need at LB, hes a reasonable value here, hes a rangy guy and a tackling machine, nothing too flashy but damn sound and gets around the field effectively and makes stops short of the sticks, should do well behind an excellent front, potential to stifle the patriots smallball game. 

23. NY Giants - David Njoku, TE, Miami 

24. Vegas Raiders - Gareon Conley, CB, OSU - the guy who was rumored to fly up boards goes on a tumble but it ends here. if the rumors of awuzie to tennessee werent swirling id slate him there, but thats the selection that hurts him here. im not his biggest fan, hes alright imo, but teams seem to like him, i could see him going to detroit, indy, cleveland, or arizona as well. 

25. Houston Texans - QB, QB, Some School - dont know which one, but i think they take one. brain says Mahomes, gut says Watson. 

26. Seattle Seahawks - Obi Melifonwu, S, UConn - very cliche pick, i know, but BamBam could be gone next year, and they dont want to lose that large enforcer who can play deep or up close. peppers is another possible candidate here but i think seattle places a lot of emphasis on size in the seconday, so the lengthy Obi gets the nod. 

27. KC Chiefs - TJ Watt, edge, Wisconsin - tamba hali isnt some ageless wonder, hes falling off a cliff and justin houston has missed his fair share of time. they get a future all around edge defender who should be solid in year one, but while houston and hali are still around he can develop for a year, grow into an nfl body, and break out in year 2 

28. Dallas Cowboys - John Ross, WR, Washington - i actually doubt he falls this far, tbh the guy slipped my mind a bit, he could go to just about any team, but addressing needs of teams had me take other guys over ross. consider this a slip up in my mock where i just forgot about a guy for a bit. but IF ross falls this far, its bad news for the league, this would just make dallas' offense a perfect storm, i dont know how youd stop it. 

29. Green Bay Packers - Jabrill Peppers, SS, Michigan - they need help in a lot of places on defense, and peppers brings the kind of skillset that can really help change the complexity of a struggling defense. if you need a safety, LB, edge rusher, and cb, and just need to make your entire defense in general better, a great way to do that is to add an explosive, aggressive player with good instincts and textbook form tackling. peppers usage in college isnt indicative of his skillset, he was used as a blitzer almost exclusively, but he shows instincts and the athleticism to suggest hes got good range, plus the aggressive mentality, making him a great fit as an x factor strong safety 

30. Pittsburgh Steelers - Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Mich. St. - this spells trouble for the ravens. if a reportedly unmotivated player needs to get motivated, put him in the steelers ravens rivalry, smh to us. this spot might not be a dire need but mcdowell is enough of a mover to say damn the need, he brings impact from all over the front. a legitimate top 3 talent with legitimate character concerns.

31. Atlanta Falcons - Charles Harris, edge, Mizzou - not this guys biggest fan but they need a pass rusher opposite beasley. they could also go with jordan willis here simply because he has an outstanding combine and the falcons have been very well known to take combine performers, which makes this pick kinda contrarian, but im gonna go ahead and think the falcons take the better player now, rather than  the project, them holding a private workout for both he and willis says a lot, im thinking they like harris better on tape but wanted to see if he just had a rough day at the combine. secondary is also on the list here, possibly adoree jackson, a well know athletic freak.

32. NO Saints - Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU - its a rumor im buying, because it makes sense. bold prediction here, if lattimores injuries are a problem in the NFL then white will be the best corner of this class 

Ravens round 2(47th) 

Tim Williams, edge, Bama - i would tear my house down in celebration here. tim williams is an absolute menace. second best jump off the line after garrett in the whole class, and he plays with authority and violence. he punches, he presses, he rips and spins, he exploits the tackles movements, works one shoulder at a time to take on half a blocker and not allowing the OT to square up and latch on. he plays with intense passion on the field and brings the energy and motor you want, just absolutely relentless, but off the field in interviews he has been very calm and humble, and quite honestly seems mature and contrary to the reports. team first guy, through and through, he doesnt care about the personal accolades, he'll attribute his success to his team in a heartbeat while shouldering any blame, but dont mistake that for a lack of confidence. he is a relatively refined edge rusher, probably top 3 in this class in terms of hand fighting, decision making, and a general arsenal of pass rush moves. he bulked up before his final season, reportedly around 20 lbs, and most of that appears to be in his upper body, which i think could explain his slipping and falling in the championship game, top heavy guys struggle to stay balanced in the bend, but he doesnt lack the flexibility. he has room to add another 10 lbs in his lower body putting him at ideal OLB size. and honestly seems realistic, he is as low as 3rd round in a lot of mocks, but i dont think ozzie allows that. Carl Lawson is another consideration.

side note, his run defense is really picked apart by people, it is better than hes given credit for, bama just has so much depth that they had no interest in NOT keeping his legs fresh. when he has had to defend the run, he shows a conceptual grasp of it, staying home on the edge, pinching the edge, gap integrity, backside pursuit, hes done it all well. one problem he has though is he gets trigger happy when a run comes his way and he'll run himself out of the play trying to make the TFL. 

Round 3(74th)

 

Pat Elflein, C, OSU - a high IQ mauling center with a championship pedigree. i dont know how this guy isnt considered a second round pick, but it seems to be the general consensus that hes a mid to late 3rd. hes right at home here with the ravens, day one starter and pro bowl potential. 

78th 

Desmond King, DB, Iowa

another guy who is inexplicably regarded as a mid to late third rounder. typical though as the raw athletic dbs always tend to shoot up boards late in the process. but desmond king is a viable #2 cb, slot cb, and should do well at either safety spot. he plays much bigger than his size, plays with authority more than most corners in the class, this guy believes the man across from him is inferior, and he plays like its true. average athleticism and size has never been a factor as this guy plays big and physical, arguably the best ball skills in the class among dbs as well. ravens love versatility and this guy will step in any time there is an injury on the field, and do well. if weddle hangs it up in the near future, heres his replacement, same with carr. he just screams ravens and has since last year. Witherspoon is also a strong option but im not sure where his stock lies, mocks show him going in the third but i think he ends up mid second.

Round 4(122nd)

 

Adam Bisnowaty, OT, Pitt

we address RT with a steal. this guys a late second early third in my eyes, but everything i see indicates him as a 5th rounder. hes a stud in the run game, needs work in pass pro, but the RT is the one spot you can afford to sacrifice pass pro, being the easiest part of the defense to avoid and manipulate. He fits the bill of bigger and stronger on the OL, he is a nasty brawler up front, gets the initial punch and drops the hips and drives upwards to put defenders on skates right off the bat, he doesnt lose the handfights because he extends quick and powerful and gets up in the chest early, and even when the defender staggers his engagement he is able to recover. he drops well in pass pro but gets stiff in the knees and ankles and may struggle to mirror guys who utilize inside lanes well. but as far as building a power run game goes, this guy is gonna make a quality RT

Round 5(159th) 

 

Tarik Cohen, RB, NC A&T 

the ravens are usually always good for a small school guy each year, and they usually seem to turn out pretty well, heres that guy. 5'6" and 175 but holy hell what a spark plug, danny woodhead is a stopgap obviously, but we need a dump option for joe at all times. this guy leaves defenders eating grass and hugging ghosts, his cuts are absolutely electric. if he can pack on a little bit of weight and get up to like 185, he should be stocky enough to hold up consistently as a receiving threat out of the backfield. 

Round 6 

 

Brian Allen, CB, Utah 

the ravens take another raw and lengthy project corner, 3 years in a row. 6'3" with good top speed and very sound in bump and run coverage, needs to turn his head and locate the ball better, needs to diagnose the deep ball better and flip his hips to get downfield. but definitely an intriguing project. he and maurice canady give us an interesting duo of long tall project corners. if just one of them pan out then we are sitting pretty in the secondary

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

ZDS may not make the final roster as it is, simply being better than him isn't gonna cut it. And honestly it's too high for him in my opinion considering they have Dan Feeney, Watt available at 48 so within trade range, couple good CBs, Elflein,, and your guy Tim Williams doesn't go until mid 3rd. Anderson just isn't the type of EDGE that we're in need of.

I agree, I like Anderson but he's really just a sound motor player, he doesn't jump out as a pro prospect imo, I think he's gonna find a place in the league and be solid, but he isn't what we need, we need a difference maker, a guy like Barnett, watt, williams, or even a guy like Derek rivers who I think is gonna be a steal for some team

27 minutes ago, Maryland said:

That would be a weird draft. 

It seems like we have too many holes to fill to justify that trade up, although I like the trade-back part of it. 

Agree on Anderson. He's not going to add anything that Za'Darius doesn't already do.

He'll add bend and general competence. 

ZDS won't see a second contract with this team and may not see a second contract at all. He is incredibly incompetent at the pro level

11 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Gronk loves to party too and he hasn't been  a issue for The Patriots but a player that loves to party doesn't seem like a problem to me.  I honestly wouldn't really like the pick that much if The Ravens drafted Foster in the first because what does that leave a guy like Correa to do  and then it may mean re-signing  Webb was pointless .

As a former party person, all it takes is a little pay raise and the wrong friends for partying to spiral completely out of control. This is an issue with all college kids, but if a player is showing temperament issues, POTENTIAL(key word) drug issues, and is rumored to be a party boy and is surrounded by the wrong crowd, it's definitely s cause for concern

17 minutes ago, Drew P said:

Applying that ridiculous analogy: The Ravens sweep the Steelers but The Steelers win the SB and the Ravens finish 2-14, the Ravens are still better lol.

Another great analogy in Antonio Brown..Ozzie's strong suit -WR's. Shall we list that dreaded cast of whiffs? It would consume too much data storage for that list probably crash the site.

You once again miss the point of the point you initially brought up... 

 

6 minutes ago, Drew P said:

I did. And i changed my tune. At 8-8 the Ravens are a better team than the division winning Steelers. A team that went to the playoffs again, while the better team, the Ravens played golf. Ozzie is a better GM than the Steelers have because they got better UDFA's and wonderful 4th rounders. Got it.

I was referring to you missing the point. You used a divisional matchup to declare the steelers better than the ravens, bold was pointing out why that is wrong, clearly something you missed. 

Apparently you also missed where the steelers struggled or failed to make the playoffs for years after paying Ben and their aging veterans. You probably also missed part where the same happened to us and we are suffering the same mediocrity as a result. Ya know, parity. 

And sure, downplay the value of making strong picks in the mid rounds, you're probably the same type to slam Ozzie for not finding Antonio brown in the 6th, solid assumption since you seem to baselessly slam Ozzie regardless. Bias and Hypocrisy is all this is.

2 minutes ago, Drew P said:

I dont recall making an "argument", it's called a statement.

So your definition of being better than another division team (Steelers) is by finishing below them in the standings?

Now I'm the confused one...

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