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    55 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

    quite frankly the best film ive seen in this class is jonathan allen and its not close

    I wouldn't say it's not "close". But I agree he has the best film in the class. But as far as impact per snap count, Tim Williams has a collection of film that isn't far behind. He absolutely crushed it the past 2 years and showed so many likeable traits so consistently. 

    Disregarding all outside factors, I think the best film of the class goes in order...

    allen, Adams, lattimore, fournette, Garrett, foster, hooker, williams, and McDowell. Other factors separate these guys for several reasons, but as far as just seeing the talent on film and finding NFL traits on the field, eliminating injuries and character concerns and poor usage or low snap count, these guys were in a class separate from the rest. Nobody looked as dominant on film as these guys.

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    1 hour ago, Italian Raven said:

    Best thing of Williams that backs up his stats and makes his films so good is the ability to win both inside (with possibly the best counter/swim in the class) and outside with a very good snap count and burst. There are also plays when he displays good patience and technique as a run supporter (LSU 2015, USC 2016). So I wouldn't really count him off as an every down player, either. He has a few inconsistencies like he doesn't always set up a plan or he  spins inside losing the outside leverage he had created. But he has a tremendous explosiveness and natural talent so I wouldn't be too nitpicking on those very small coachable details.

    We can dig into all of this a little deeper once I'll find thw time to finish every 2015 and 2016 tape review.

    One thing I wouldn't ask him to do as 'often' as he used to at Bama is to delay blitzes. It really takes away his ability to get off quickly, sell the edge and later counter inside.

    Btw, my gf just asked me what I've been doing on the mobile this whole time she was unpacking our new lights. As I answered "writing my last comment on the Ravens Board" even she was 'touched' as she knows what this platform is to me. If it wasn't for Bold and Purpleflock keeping the things going I would have 0 persons to talk about football with now. Thanks to everyone guys. I'll see you on our next board ;)

    Lol my gf hates that I'm on here all the time. She's glad it's closing down. 

    And yeah I'll agree about the delays, he's a great natural rusher, save the blitzes for guys who don't have his natural talent, let williams take the attention to let the lesser guys get in easy

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    1 hour ago, ludy51 said:

    So who does he compare to then?

    Suggs?

    Houstan?

    Miller?

    Probably Houston, he's way stronger than his weight would indicate and he doesn't have the quick feet of miller, but his first step is comparable. 

    He just gets too heavy footed at the arc of his bend for me to give him a miller comp. he still bends really well but he's inconsistent at times. He'll attempt to flatten the edge and bend in but he just can't sometimes and his momentum carries him past the pocket. 

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    This sucks. 

    I've been doing this for 7 years. 

    My first draft nut season was the jimmy Torrey draft and I clamored for both. I discussed all the heartbreak of the playoffs  and the glory of our super bowl run. I defended flacco to the end but criticized him when he was bad. I begged for cams firing for years with all of you. I was here for the birth of BSHU. The pats and steelers rivalries. The mile high miracle. I was as excited as everyone else about Elam and as disappointed as everyone else when he became the worst Ravens draft pick ever. So much history we've all been through on here. It's weird that we don't know each other but we have been talking ravens for so long in a tight knit community that it feels a little personal, and I'm really sad that this is gone now. 

    Its been fun folks, hope to see y'all on boardhost!

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    2 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

    would have been happy with him at 16 lol - at 78 i still cant really compute it

    Same. Honestly I probably had him in my top 10 come draft day lol. His film is too damn good. Comparing apples and oranges and all but his film was Better than Solomon Thomas, better than any of the receivers, better than any cb besides lattimore, his film was up there with Jamal Adams and Myles Garrett and Jonathan Allen, only difference is he had character knocks and the stigma of only playing third downs in college, but he shouldn't be faulted for saban wanting to keep his legs fresh while others did the dirty work at a high level. 

    This man averaged a sack every 10-11 snaps. Not pass rush snaps, but TOTAL snaps. I'm not a big stat guy, but that is damn impressive, and when you have numbers like that and the film to back it up, you're talking about a special player.

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    14 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

    The 3 cone is a joke. It's about planning your route and shortening your steps and not wasting motion. However rushing the QB you can't really plan to many steps because you don't know what your opponent is going to do. Yes Williams needs some coaching on balancing his motions. Many athletic slugs have done well at the 3 cone while some really fast and shifty Running backs and WRs done quite mediocre . To much stock is put in 3cone

    You only say this because it doesn't support your claims that Barnett isn't agile enough to rush the passer, but the 3 cone drill which is one of the only drills to actually simulate in game motions Barnett crushed compared to other much faster and more explosive edge rushers. 

    Alternative facts. You are fake news.

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    On 5/3/2017 at 2:28 PM, berad said:

    He's got all the measurables you could ask for, sounds like his biggest issues are tracking the ball and making plays downfield.

    Sounds familiar to what we saw with young Jimmy Smith. He would blanket guys but not turn around to play the ball once it came his way. I remember a preseason game (I think) against Dwayne Bowe where he was practically velcro'd to the guy but Bowe ended up catching a few passes because Jimmy either didn't anticipate the throw or was slow to react. He's obviously corrected that.

    One thing he does undoubtedly better than Jimmy is tackle. Some of those hits are just nasty.

    Jimmy is a hell of a tackler though. He's made business decision as of late, but when he was younger he laid the wood, in run support and screen support he was a stonewall and he brought the pain. 

    He still does it when he needs to, but I think he's just more reserved to protect his body and opts for sure form tackles over those nasty booming hits. The tackle he hurt himself on this year was a beautiful touchdown saving 1 on 1 open field tackle

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    12 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

    No, he plays far faster than his timed speed. He said in his interview he lost some weight and plays at about 205lbs and said he feels so much faster. I'm I remember correctly he was hobbling when he ran that bad 40 time. He is very fluid, has instincts and can find the football while making very athletic adjustments. He should challenge the top free safety's in the league.

    I like Arizona's coach. However I don't think he realized everything Jefferson could do. When a player is undrafted he really has to prove himself every step along. He was already fast enough but if he did get faster he may be a better free safety. He can do it all!! Cover tackle, top shelf instincts, play shallow and long when he has the opportunity. His best play is yet to come. He was thought of as a round1 player until combine.

    Good info, I honestly didn't know anything about Jefferson until this year and even then I knew nothing of his background until the FA talk heated up

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    14 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

    I completely agree. Bowser has to show the toughness and physicality to not back down when punched in the face in the NFL. As in fight through blocks and get back up after being blocked by a guard. Humphrey could very well be a bust as a cornerback. But I think he will be very good as a strong safety. Problem is there is no opening at safety with a tandem of some of the best in the league. Once Weddle shows his age he could play SS while Jefferson plays free safety. With Tim Williams Mosley Jefferson Young and Humphrey the defense could be hitting stride again. On its way back to the ravens defense

    Jefferson absolutely cannot play FS. He does not have that skill set. Weddle is more than likely gone or at least onto a team friendly deal where he won't be expected to start. 

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    10 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

    to be honest i think only 2 of them need to pan out for this draft to have a major longterm impact on our defense but in all likelihood i expect to have at least 3 of these top 4 guys to work out in some fashion

    im really excited about the way this team is set up for the future

    If those 2 are tim Williams and marlon Humphrey then I agree. But say if wormley and bowser are the only 2 that pan out, then we aren't getting much pass rush or a great cover corner.

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    Of the first 4 picks I'd say bowser has the highest bust potential, but I think this is the draft we have wanted for so long, because even though bowser is extremely raw he's also an incredibly gifted football player, his natural awareness sets him apart from others and his motor and athleticism complements the awareness very well. He may never become a good pass rusher, but if you told me bowser wasn't gonna become a very good off the ball linebacker I wouldn't believe it. Meanwhile wormley and williams are almost guarantees to be productive in their respective roles, and Humphrey has bust potential as well but on the right defense he probably will at the very least bring good production to the table with broken up short passes and blown up screens consistently. I think at the very worst, 3 of our first 4 picks pan out to either be starters or huge impact rotational guys. Wormley is probably a day one starter and highly productive, t will could realistically hit 8 sacks as a DPR and the best edge rusher on the team, and one of bowser or Humphrey HAS to pan out, i won't give either of them a 100% chance to be successful but I think both of them still have a very good chance. 

    This could be the draft class that turns us around. I've never felt so sure about a draft class being successful

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