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    4 minutes ago, R@venFan808 said:

     

    i think your almost 100 % right,  more like 90 for right now lol. the offense was close but i think the key missing piece was a speedster some one to take the top off the defense we tried to fill the "Torrey Smith" roll but i don't think we have that person yet. Once we do i think the offense will run a lot more smoothly. 

    perriman and wallace?

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    58 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

    We didn't but negotiations are a game of leverage and Joe has most of it. Those guys won't be paid more than Joe and his agent can make a pretty good argument as to why. Other players figures are always brought into account when it comes to negotiations. Aaron Rodgers got his new deal right after Joe did to become the highest paid QB because him and his agent made a good argument as to why he should get paid more than Joe and GB had to comply. 

    if we did not sign them then there is no way to ask them to take a pay cut unless Ozzie contacts the other team to request them to do so which would be ridiculous to say the least.

    also never heard of teams looking at other teams when it comes to discussing pay cuts.
    pretty sure when it reaches this stage teams could care less what others do.

    you have a point when negotiating a new contract but that was not the discussion......

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    5 hours ago, Moderator 2 said:

    It's the going rate for a proven SB MVP that the coaching staff knows him and he knows them.  I think the three things that have hindered Joe, it takes 18 months to fully mental and physical recover from ACL he's 13 or 14 months into it and don't forget the hit he took that mangled his knee brace, Ducasse and Zuttah are in Joe's lap half the time, last but not least OC coordinators 5 two in mid season.  They got rid of Jim Zorn who Flacco did well when he was his QB coach and the BEST was Kubiak. Source

     
    SEASON COORDINATOR WHY THEY LEFT
    2016 Mornhinweg NA
    2015-16 Marc Trestman Fired
    2014 Gary Kubiak Hired as Broncos' HC
    2012-13 Jim Caldwell Hired as Lions' HC
    2008-12 Cam Cameron Fired

    Caldwell left because the Lions saved us from firing him after that debacle known as the 2013 season.

    Doubt he would have remained the OC.....
     

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    4 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

    One less TD than Russell Wilson
    MORE TDs than Cam Newton, Ryan Tannehill, Andy Dalton, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith

    Less INTs than Drew Bress, Philip Rivers, Jameis Winston, Eli Manning

    Not sure why you mentioned Brees here but flacco has the same amount of INT as him but gets utterly destroyed in every other statistic.

    Also you do know flacco has almost 100 more pass attempts then pretty much everyone you listed right?

    I mean flacco had 672 pass attempts while wilson only had 546 yet Wilson has 1 more TD.
    Tannehill attempted only 389 passes and has 1 less TD then flacco.
    cam newton 510 pass attempts and 1 less TD.

    not sure if you are trying to support flacco but you are making a terrible case if you want to compare him to those guys lol

    wentz about the only guy you could make a case for but comparing an 9 year vet to a rookie seems pretty odd tbh....

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    5 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

    Tom Brady didn't really take a pay cut. His contracts are back-loaded and his new deal gave him $2M that he lost from his suspension. Let's be honest here, if we're going to ask Joe to take a pay cut than let's ask Brock Oswieler, Andy Dalton, and Jay Cutler to take one because they have all been worse. 

    When did we sign brock , Andy and Jay?

     

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    33 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

    It was a well written piece. I do know position coaches have a lot to do with things but they still are running and teaching Pees's defense. I also remember in another thread involving Frazier I made a couple posts where I was against making him HC cuz of the Tampa 2 style. I wouldn't mind switching to a 4 man front when Jernigan could be a force a 3 tech penetrator

    There is one question if you had a nice overview of the plays is if the Ravens corners initiated any contact within 5 yds or were they backpedaling (no matter where they lined up) giving free cushions. Tough on tv to see whats going on. Just initiating contact imo could give the passrush an extra second.

     

     

    Williams a lot of times at the beginning of the game seems to get tremendous push collapsing the pocket but does seem to tire out later in the game And Urban to me has been a major disappointment. Our DL needs help and I wonder how much Clarence Brooks coaching was missed in this area. I'm thinking a lot. Hopefully Correa,Kaufusi and Henry can contribute more next year.

    Gosh I sure hope you're not lumping everybody into that statement lol. You do not give enough blame to the coaching. Yes the players play but somebodies calling the shots preparing these guys. If coaching is not important then why have them.

    we have been using 4 man fronts.

    Pees actually prefers 4 man fronts to generate pressure.

    however if none of the 4 can beat their man you get this mess we have seen this season where you have to blitz to get any pressure.
    problem is that when you blitz you leave fewer people in coverage.
    when you have fewer people in coverage the area players will have to cover become larger or the will be left on an island.

    here is the problem cause other then jimmy none can hold their own on an island and we dont really have players with enough speed to cover alot of space nor do they have the football IQ to make up for that lack of speed.

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    1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    so many people blaming joe flacco with zero explanation... 

    i shouldve just titled the thread "without being a complete simpleton, what are the ravens main issues?"

    for someone who attempted 623 passes barely scrapping 4000 yards and having 20 TD with 14 INT , im not really sure what explanation you are looking for.

    he was horrible during the first part of the season which probably had something to do with the 4 game losing streak we had then.

    he did not exactly light the world on fire in the 2nd part either.

    he AIN'T the ONLY issue, but he will certainly be 1 of the main issues if this is what we can expect going forward.....

     

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    16 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

    Maybe they are as talented. You see spurts constantly from guys like Jernigan then they disappear or they make boneheaded decisions. That's not on coaching?

    Its also does say a lot when you stop them for 3 qtrs. It also says a lot when they break down in the 4th qtr. You know why? its called bad defensive calls. Getting off the accelerator. Running scared. Again did you have any confidence we could stop Pitt? Do you have any confidence in stopping anybody? Do you only hold the players accountable for 4th qtr collapses? Its really mindblowing that people want to show Marty the door for 1 call but 5 yrs of 4th qtr collapses is okay.

    if they where just as talented the outcome of the duels would be 50-50.

    if jernigan had 1 good play and then disappears it means he got lucky 1 time and got manhandled every other time.

    also are you really suggesting that coaches are telling playing to make bonebeaded decisions?
    no coach is telling their players to grab a face mask or hit the QB late unless they are running a bounty scheme orso.
    those are dumb mental errors by players which is their own fault.

    see this is where bmore is trying to make a point by saying people really dont know what they are seeing lol.
    pees calls cover 2 for 3 quarters and it works fine and people say its good play calling
    he calls the same type of play in the 4th but then it fails then all of a sudden its bad play calling.

    if a play works a few times but then all of sudden fails 1 time , the issue most likely aint the play call.
    if the play fails every time its called then you have a point though

     


     

     

     

     

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    13 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

    I agree very much here Tru but remember only 1 of those players was with us during our 1st SB and still these guys need to be coached up and in the right position and frame of mind to make the plays. That's in the coaching. We had all 4 of these guys with Mattison and we were bleh. We had all 4 of these guys during Pees's 1st yr in our 2nd SB but our defense was still not that great. We almost lost that damn SB and it wasn't cuz of the lights lol

    I truly believe Ozzie picks players like he's always picked players but the tenacity and the big thing clutch is just not there under Pees and he needs to be held accountable and by accountable I mean shown the door

    during our first SB the defense was ridiculously stacked lol.

    also with mattison we had a top 5 defense and that was with Ed and ray well into their 30s already so past their prime  you could say.

    also pees only had them during his first season as the DC in 2012 at which reed was 34 and ray 37.
    you cant really expected them to be still as good as they where when they played under rex and such lol

    you could actually say that the lights played a huge role in the SB as it totally resetted the game making everyone starting from scratch again.
    Prior to that both the offense and defense where playing pretty darn good.
    After it even the offense was terrible not only the defense.

    Clutch comes down to a players football IQ.
    some are able to develop it while others will keep on making the same mistakes ..

     

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    14 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

    Not to long to read but its also just an opinion cuz apparently this writer seems to think every play was perfectly called and it was only just the players that lacked the execution which is fine but the bottomline is.........drumroll........who is teaching these players what to do in certain situations? Who holds players accountable? Who teaches the bad techniques? And how long has this been going on? Its the same ol same ol. If its lack of execution sorry I blame the coaching staff.

    One time the Ravens had it where if the situation was you had to either hold on to the lead or take the lead I would go with I want to hold on to the lead cuz I got confidence we could do it. Now its the other way around.

    I also like the way you avoided the Pitt question. Is it cuz you wasn't confident?

     

     

    ever considered that the players we have are not as talented as they players we used to had?

    or a wild guess here but the players the opponents have are simply just more talented then the players we have?

    its quite interesting to see people outraged that guys like OBJ and Antonio Brown beat the living crap out of any of our CBs not named jimmy smith.

    there is not 1 person on this planet that can turn wright and powers into players that will be able to lock down the likes of OBJ/Brown in single man cov like they are prime time or revis.....

    offenses get paid to and at some point they will figure out how to beat an defense.
    it actually says a lot that the defense manages to stop offense for 3 quarters and then break once its the 4th quarter.
    after 3 quarters you pretty much have used up everything you have planned and practiced.....


    if our own offense actually managed to do a  something in those 3 quarters then we did not had to worry about the 4th because the game would have been out reach.

    however it usually also takes our offense 3 quarters to figure out how to do a something and its the reason why we are in close games going into the 4th.

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    1 hour ago, Willbacker said:

    It kills me to see some posters claiming Pees has "exotic blitzes" when what I mostly see is maybe 7 men lining up on the scrimmage and then the offense has to guess who is coming. Ooooooo. and usually the QB runs a cadence that actually show who is blitzing. QB audibles and Ravens still blitz the same ones that were showing blitz. Yep real exotic. Never audibling. Nothing. You never see the Ravens dropping any DLinemen in coverage. Or how bout bringing an outside corner off the edge. Or what do you know maybe have a delayed blitz. Their blitzes are pathetic and very obvious and my favorite Pees description...vanilla. Ravens also figgering out snap count is horrendous. Pretty much reason why we cant get a good 4 man passrush but ya know whats that got to do with Pees lol.

    @BmoreBird22 you can disguise coverages by dropping a safety in a short middle zone and dropping a LB off into the flat or showing man coverage but zoning but I know you already know this but man cmon you know Pees gets off the gas pedal and drops into soft zones time and time again to keep the play in front and run clock which ultimately costs us the game or makes it one hell of a nailbiter. Be honest man how much confidence did you have that we could shut Pitt down after Juice scored. I know I didn't but I thought we was gonna at least hold them to a FG lol. Our defense instills no fear when at one time it used too and that's just a fact no matter how high we ranked.

    Ray Lewis and Ed Reed where what made others fear us.
    Prime Ngata and Suggs also played a huge role.

    We dont have those caliber players anymore and the odds are we wont every get those caliber players again on the field at the same time.

     

     

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    9 hours ago, January J said:

    Making the eagles use a timeout would've been a good thing as well obviously. If that had happened and the same thing played out except weddle makes that tackle on Wentz with 4 seconds left then its game over. This all ties into clock management- which is something we have struggled with for quite some time now.

    the quickest way to end the game would be to score a TD and make it a 3 score game.
    that is why they decided to pass on 1st down rather then run the ball and burn the clock.

    with a TD it would have been a 17 point difference which means the eagles would need 3 scoring drives with at least 2 being a TD with less then 6 minutes left.
    you will find very little cases of teams that where able to pull it off...

    also if you want to score a TD then the worst thing you can do in that situation besides turning the ball over , is taking a sack.

    the odds of the ravens scoring a TD when its 2nd and 17 are not that high.
    they have a better chance when its 2nd and 10.

    situational football when the game plan is to score a TD......

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