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its all good . we all can be slow at times. at least we dont take everything super serious like some here

everyone knows he meant boldin. its quite normal to link any WR on the ravens to him. im just having some fun cause he spelled his name wrong. Also since english aint my first language i know all to well how hard it can be to grammar and spelling right but we are talking about a players name here though. a very popular ex ravens player at that...

nah if he meant boldin he would have spelled it right. the I and E are miles apart and i find it hard to believe ravens fans dont know how to spell boldin name since he has been a hot topic from the day he arrived and still years after he got traded. heck any WR linked to the ravens gets auto linked to boldin by the fans lol.

you talking about bolden the broncos CB or bolden who is 1 of the pats RBs?

Play offs at least.

people seem to forget upshaw was the guy aligning the defense after ray lewis went out in our SB season and he kept that job even when ray came back. pretty good for a rookie TBH. its because we got daryl smith the team decided to let him do the alignment since its better for the ILB to do it. i dont think people should question his football IQ. you rarely hear about him missing an assignment or blowing coverage or making any other mistake.

dude is 1 of the best edge setters in the NFL. he can play every lb position. he can play dline in sub packages. he can drop in coverage better then most olb he can make the calls to line up the defense properly. he did alot of the dirty work to made guys like kruger , doom and mcphee get the sacks and stay fresh. neither of them have shown to be 3 down olb who can stop the run or drop in coverage. he doesent get the gaudy stats or highlight plays but he is a key piece to the defense. i sure hope we can keep him.

brown had a promising rookie season and would have been the starter with smith last year. then the draft happened and mosley fell in our lap and we took him. then we smith and mosley playing at a pro bowl level and also staying injury free. because both are also 3 down lbers there was simply little chance for brown to see the field. this season it will also depend on how injury free both guys are and if they both can still play at a high level. smith is getting up there in age and there is always the sophomore slump that can happen. its possible smith will loose a step and might be subbed out on passing down for brown or he might come up for a snap or 2 so the team can keep him fresh.

I did not bring them up the person I replied to did. I did not compare them , the person I replied to did. All I did was give the person i replied to extra info. I told you all of this after you replied to me. nice try though .

I did not compare them. so there was nothing for me to miss. if you want to compare them then do it with someone else.

TE at the moment since we will rely on a rookie and 2nd year player Gilmore who played limited snaps last year. all other positions we have a veteran presence except here. unless pitta ofcourse is ready to go week 1 which I doubt btw.

my first reply to you in this thread. 2nd sentence cleary explains the thoughts by my reply. 3rd sentence says the reason why I wrote my reply in the first place. 4th sentence im telling you I don't want to compare both units and I never suggested or intended to do so. How you are able to misunderstand this and still decide to compare both units and their situation is beyond me. Also I tried to explain the time of when an injury occurs does indeed have a big effect on the performance of a player. lets take flacco and schaub for an example. if flacco goes down now then the team and schaub would have trainings camp and pre season to build a game plan around schaub strengths and schaub would have enough reps with the starters to have some chemistry heading into week 1, if flacco goes down in week 1, schaub will have to come in having only practiced with the back ups so no chemistry with the starters and thus we will be forced to adjust the game plan on the fly cause some plays that worked for flacco most likely wont work for schaub. I cant explain it any easier then this so....

I never compared the situations. that's the point you are missing. I merely said the hawks had injuries. Some had the idea the hawks where healthy and complete. Also you still don't get what im talking about.

im not talking about that , try again.

im not arguing about who they lost. im arguing when they lost their players. ravens lost their players well before the played the pats. heck Melvin started against the jags which was 4 weeks before they played the pats. that's 5 weeks of practice and 4 games worth of experience. that beats losing a guy in the actual game. you are seriously underestimating how valuable practice with the starters , being part of the game plan and actually playing games with the starters is comparing to going into the line up in the middle of the game without neither of the before mentioned.

okay tnx for telling what I already knew months ago I guess... BTW you missed a very crucial point though. The ravens injuries occurred a few weeks prior to the pats match up. This means they had more then enough time to deal with this and thus be better prepared. our secondary actually played a few games together and they did pretty well against the steelers the week prior. I might be wrong but im pretty we did not loose any player against the pats. the hawks however lost their nickel corner during the actually game on top of already had other players banged up going into the game. call me crazy but its probably much harder to deal with an injury during the game itself rather then having some time to prepare to play with out the injured player(s).

so did the seahawks had injuries or not? im simply pointing out they where far from a healthy defense and brady did the same thing he did to us: picking on the weakest link. some fans think the hawks where healthy apparently. if you wanna compare both units toe to toe then feel free to do just that but I have no intention to argue with you about it since I never suggested the intention to do so.

actually Thomas , Sherman and chancellor where all playing injured and probably had no bussines being on the field. they also lost their 2nd and 3rd corner during the game lol. their 3rd corner lane got injured when he picked off brady and before that Maxwell left the game .

smh. 2012 SB defense had pretty much double the turnovers and sacks to any other defense in the play offs. from the colts game all the way to when the lights went out in the SB they where a suffocating defense that limited luck , manning and brady with the latter 2 coming in away games. heck the niners where not doing anything until the lights went out and momentum was lost and things got worse when ngata went out. rice fumbling did not help them either nor did the bad punt from the own redzone that lead to a huge return by ginn. people seriously need to look further then the final score... also im pretty pagano defense got torched way worse then pees defense in last seasons play off and I doubt the colts played with as bad as a secondary as we had. ow and last season the ravens where ranked #6 in points given up per game which is the most important stat for any defense. pretty darn good considering our secondary woes in a passing league...

please look at your own arguments... pure pocket passing: ben can make every throw from the pocket , just as good as flacco and ben is much better at making reads. the fact the he is much better with pressure is his face says enough. a big part of knowing how to deal with pressure is the ability to make reads. you yourself seem to have the perception that ben only knows how to run around in the backfield and throw on the run lol. he knows how to extend plays but he does most of his throwing from the pocket and he did a great job this season. now we can all agree that having 4 more years of experience should give you the ability to read defenses better but still at this point flacco isn't better then ben. on the run: ben. broken plays: ben ball protection: flacco avg 12 INT and 9 fumbles a season , ben avg 12 INT and 7 fumbles a season but apparently you give flacco the nod for some reason lol game managing: flacco has 14 4th quarter comebacks good for 65 on the all time list, ben has 25 good for 12 on the all time list yet you give flacco the edge lol. clutch: ben durability: flacco leadership: tied other then durability flacco isn't better then ben in any category you listed if you are willing to be objective. sure we can talk about weapons but in the same breath we cant deny the o-lines as well. sure brown and bell are better then what we have but our o-line is miles ahead of the steelers o-line. TBH I highly doubt joe would lit it up with bell and brown behind that steelers o-line. Also ben has played 16 games in back to back seasons now and if he does the same next season it will 3 in a row. for whats its worth: Ben QB rating in the last 3 seasons has ben better then the QB rating flacco posted last season. flacco QB rating last season was the highest going back to 2010. its really hard to argue ben not being better at this point lol.

lol at people arguing joe is better then big ben. we all hate the steelers but come on and give credit where its due. big ben at this point is a top 5 QB in the NFL and flacco could possibly crack the top 10 depending on who you ask and by what people are going on. last season ben had more yards , completions , TDs , less int, higher % rate, more ypa, higher QB rating. flacco had less fumbles , more rushing yards and 2 rushing TD to ben 0. flacco is getting better with each season and I think next season he might be able to close the gap between them.

trading Monroe doesn't free cap...

tucker just saw his value go up some more lol

its players voting about other players. every player can only list their top 25 I believe and since all players don't play each other its not a surprise some players wont get a vote. I can for instance bucs players vote for flacco but Texans players just ignore flacco due to his performance in both respective games. I also doubt a lot of players try to get an indept analysis before voting. i remember peyton getting voted in after missing the full season.

while a team does have a roster of 53 players only 46 of those players are allowed to dress up on game day. this means coaches have to make a choice on who to activate. with smith and mosley barely missing a snap and both are 3 down players and brown doesent have special team value , its really not that hard to figure out why he doesent suit up. also orr is a guy who can suit up on special teams and possibly fill in incase either gets injured. if either goes down brown will see more snaps.