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lets wait till perriman earns the starting job first.

Troy Smith wasent that bad though for a late round pick. He was actually won the starter job in 2008 before he had some medical issue which forced us to start flacco sooner then we wanted and the rest is history. Heck he played a pretty decend game in that week 17 match up against the squeelers that we WON lol Also dickson first 2 seasons went pretty much as expected and his 3rd season he was still the starter taking on rn blocking duties while pitta had the pass catching duties. that combo worked pretty good and he even made some nice grabs in the play offs. it was year 4 where he was awefull with his hand of stone but then again the entire offense was terrible. dont think he is among the worst lol.

quality is linked to style.... you should read the whole thing before deciding to comment. its hilarious you completely ignored the part about going from a 3/4 to a 4/3 defense. guess that part combined with the quality comment and the names ngata mentioned pretty much meant you where wrong. ah well if you think ngata disrespected the ravens then go ahead. people will be mad for no reason even if they wont admit it.

Ngata comments about quality where linked to the Dline. Its why he ony mentioned Dliners in his statement. Which btw is no suprise since the lions play a 4/3 defense which is a different style then the ravens 3/4. 3/4 dliners are space eaters taking up blockers so the lbers can make plays. 4/3 dliners are the play makers who are supposed to be aggressive trying to get in the backfield as soon as they can to disrupt plays. ansah is way more athletic then any dliner the ravens had in ngata time here. same can be said about JJ and trapp tbh but its not that much of a suprise cause neither are build like a 3/4 dliner. Eisenberg is right when he said people misinterpreted ngata comments. I knew people would take it the wrong way as soon as it came up in that late for work article which i said the same as im saying now. Its really not hard to connect the dots unless you are still pissed that ngata bolted which if you read that article and this one are still plenty of people

its funny that the part you quoted and painted red pretty much supports what eisenberg is saying. the players ngata named are all Dliners. Its a huge stretch to suggest he was talking about the defense as a whole since he did not mention the best defenders on that team. Cant see how this is disrespectfull to Ray unless you believe ray played on the Dline .....

Ben right now but in 2 years flacco will be the better player. Ben is already at his top while flacco keeps getting better and if maxx and perriman work out flacco is going to be the top QB in the division. Koch is the man.

frank walker lol. worst player gotta be the guy who was behind him on the depth chard

so nobody noticed ngata was talking about the dline and not the defense as a whole? the players he mentioned are all dliners lol. he seems excited to go from a 3 line men system to a 4 line men system and his primary job now consist of shooting the gap instead of taking on double teams. most dliners would be excited for that change in role lol

in kindle defense he had a freak accident, also the worst players are probably the guys who where even worse then those you mentioned.

i dont dislike flacco at all. he has come along way from being an avg QB to becoming 1 of the top QBs in the league. there arent many QBs id take over him, but im far to realistic to act like he is the best QB in the league. I dont mind people talking up/bash flacco or any other player/coach unless it takes extreme forms. i wont agree if someone says flacco is better then rodgers nor will i agree he needs to be benched after a few bad games for schaub. im probaly in the middle if you wanna place me somewhere on the extreme homer vs extreme hater scale lol. also since you are a homer its pretty pointless to argue any further about who has the biggest arm so i suggest we drop it lol

did you read the article? when it comes to touch the author picked brees. are you now saying he should have picked flacco over brees when it comes to touch? touch and arm strength are separate categories. if combined then yeah flacco would had both beat and you would be right but its not combined lol. the line you quoted is just to emphasis what stafford big arm lacks. nothing more and nothing less. seriously nobody is arguing that stafford is a better QB then flacco orso . not even the author is suggesting it. EDIT: also Gil Brandt is a cowboys homer who doesn't gain a thing picking a detroit over a baltimore QB lol. He would have been real bias if he snuck Romo in there.

im pretty sure the article did not pick stafford for his accuracy but his arm strength which OP brought in question and him suggestion flacco should have been the choice. did you even read the OP first post or the article he posted? ball placement and power control are an aspect of accuracy not arm strength. those 2 elements you need if you want to throw a ball accurate not as far as you can. the article talks about pure arm strength and the biggest reason people believe stafford has the biggest arm is because he can throw the ball far while doing it off his back foot and not what you described. its pretty crazy how much velocity and distance he can get on a ball throwing off his backfoot or across his body. also i think you forgot he did pretty well with golden tate who isent 6`6 nor is on his way to the HOF. the megatron argument is played out since he has proven he can do it with someone else. also the boards seems to be bringing up alot of things that have 0 to do with the article and OP initial discussion lol.

actually its a thread about who has the bigger arm. it became a flacco thread when people decided to bring in arguments and opinions that have 0 to do the topic. i simply dont see how 1 QB winning games proves he has more arm power then another QB. i also dont see how having better/worse receivers proves that 1 QB can throw with more velocity then another. heck i dont even see what accuracy has to do with who has the biggest arm. if jamarcus russel was still in the league he would probaly have the biggest arm of all QBs. that doesn't mean he is better orso like most seem to think. this thread has been derailed since the first page and its funny mods let it slide cause if it where derailed into a flacco bash thread it would have been stopped on the spot regardless of it being the off season , pre season regular season or play offs.

think those teams where a QB away from being a contender.

its supposed to be about who can throw harder but i guess people cant accept that flacco isent the clear cut #1 so it got derailed quick with alot of posts that has 0 to do with the initial topic lol. mods let it pass since its a now a i love flacco thread. if it turned to a flacco bash thread they would have jumped in sooner then later

i dont think many are willing to give credit where its due.

dont forget that 1 TD they scored was when they went no huddle and then abused the ineligible substitution crap which is now banned.

stafford made a living throwing off his back foot lol cutler is ever worse with his footwork when throwing

you could put on stafford college and nfl tape and see he has alot of arm power. his issue is his touch and decision making. their am power is close then you think.

So you are saying play calling is the reasons players missed tackles? im still trying to figure out what the link is between Pees deserving criticism and players missing tackles. so what would you have done different as a DC in these situations? its pretty standard for a DB to play off when its zone coverage. they have to backpedal at the snap to their designed zone and if they play to tight a receiver can run past them for a big gain. the only time you can play tight press in a zone defense is when you are supposed to cover the flats or any shot route concept. cover 2 with both CBs defending the flat is such a play the CBs and play press the receivers at the line but the risk is that if press fails the receiver will be wide open before the safety has a chance to get there. https://youtu.be/yHKsphx_fcY here is a link to where we tried press man to man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUuJZQ5ap8o here is a link to what happend when we tried to go with pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyQvUiVmkYY this is a perfect example of what the matchs up would be like if we went man to man alot more then we did. When Pees tried to do what some here wanted him to do we ended up with results like that so him having players back up and give 7 yards cushions hoping they would make the tackle as soon as the catch was made seems like the lesser of 2 evils.

what you describe is bad tackling/technique by players and not bad play calling by pees. are we going that far now to blame Pees for missed tackles? if melvin makes the tackle as it was designed and called , its 4th down. this is a case of right call bad execution which usually falls on the player and maybe the position coach if anyone wants to blame a coach so bad .... nobody is above criticism but lets keep it fair though.

yup

not even going attempt to read this article lol

Gilmore is going to be the starter since he is the best blocker we have with experience. if pitta is back he will be the 3rd down TE and if he cant go then maxx is going to get those snaps. there is at the moment no need to throw a rookie into the fire TBH.

prevent defense is 3 man rushing the passer and 8 man dropping into deep coverage. majority of the game we rushed as least 4 mixed with man to man , cover 2, cover 3 and cover 4. neither are considered prevent defense. also for the record the 2012 play off defense had the most forced turnovers and sacks of any other defense in the play offs. to say they where not a strength is just crazy. colts only managed 3 FGs. they held manning and the broncos to 3 passing TD but in return forced 2 INT with 1 being a pick 6 and the other setting up the FG in OT. they also forced a fumble in the 3rd quarter that ended in a rice TD. They shut out brady in the 2nd half of the pats game. Forced 2 INT and a fumble as well. in the SB they where just as hot as the offense before HT giving up only 2 FGs and where just as cold as the offense after the lights went out. the offense only managed 2 FGs afte the lights went out so people seriously needs to stop acting like they where still playing and it was only the defense that got worse. Both the offense and defense got hot in the play offs and both carried us to the SB win. Just go to ESPN and look at all the drives if you dont believe me. its all documented play by play...