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i was not discussing the reason he failed. so there is nothing to acknowledge nor anything to dodge...

Never said he would be a better tackler/player at his natural position. care to point out where i said that this, or is this yet another pointless attempt for you to argue something i did not say? Pretty sure i have said a few times now that i merely was pointing out that he indeed did play other positions besides his natural one. Unless you want to disagree and say he played his natural all the time , there is very little worth to further discuss...

probably one of them on an alt lol

i think a lot of things contributed to him not working out with part of it being him not playing his natural position for majority of his career and him not being that smart only adding to it. i can find myself in pretty much everything you said. But quite frankly i was not debating this at any point though. I was merely pointing out to some of them here that Elam did not play his natural play that often at all , like they seem to think. 2013 he was the FS and 2014 he played a good part as a corner for the obvious reasons....

yup dude played fs all of his rookie season and was nickle corner for a large part of his 2nd season. but ofcourse to these guys its all the same position lol.

sure it is.

Maybe you should read your own comment. first you say he was not forced to switch position yet you are now arguing he played there because there was no alternative. if a player has to play another position because they are no alternatives then they are indeed forced to switch positions..... he was forced to play FS because huff was god awful and we had nobody else.. It really is a switch of position cause a FS and a SS have different responsibilities. He started there for 15 of the 16 games in 2013. Ironicially in 2014 he was yet again forced to play a different position namely that of nickle corner. Will Hill was back after a 6 game suspension and with all the injuries at CB , he became a duo with Stewart at Safety while Elam slid in to be the nickle corner. I surely hope you did not forget our issues at CB in 2014? Elam was a SS for 6- 8 games before becoming the nickle corner for the remainder of the season. But yeah 2 seasons and both he was forced to play a position he was not used to playing. 2015 he was on IR and 2016 he should have been on IR as well. To be clear there are less then a handfull safeties in the NFL that can cover slot receivers on an island. If you dont believe me you are free to go and watch the 2014 footage to see if he really covered slot receivers. You guys can bash the kid as much as you want but the fact remains that probably just a quarter of the games he played for us came at his natural position....

did he or did he not change positions? there is a huge different between being a centre fielder and an in the box safety......

i said nothing about that being the reason he did not work out. i merely highlighted that he did had to switch and you even admit he had to. nice try though

You can draft as talented players as you want but if the position coaches cant develop them they will not reach up to their potential. Besides that those players need to have that drive as well. We where very blessed to have had a guy like brooks who could take dliners regardless of draft status and have them play great. Our player development simply aint what it used to be. The one thing you could probably blame on the FO is at times drafting players that dont fit the scheme. Then again its been said numerous times that they actually ask the coaches and coordinators for their opinion about players and if they give the green light then its up to them to make it work. Perriman is probably a good case. He has absolutely everything you want in a WR. If we cant turn him into a quality receiver then you must look at engram , unless perriman is uncoachable and/or simply does not have the mental capacity to learn lol

Elam was a in the box SS coming out of florida which we forced to play center field as a FS.... As for Brown well to be fair he was a 4-3 MLB in college projected as 1 of the top 4-3 OLB coming out of the draft ,which we then decided to use as a 3-4 ILB. So yeah there is that.

there is nothing to disprove. since drafting Julio the falcons have done next to nothing to add others WRs through the draft. They only drafted 2 other WR in round 4 and 7 since then. Dont think i need to list all the WRs we have spend picks on since drafting Torrey lol TE aint even close to what we have done in filling that position compared to them. They only drafted 2 TE since 2011 in round 3 and 4. we drafted a TE in round 2,3 and 5 not counting waller who was a 6th rounder. Coleman was a 3rd round pick and Freeman was a 4th round pick. we drafted pierce , dixon and allen in the first 4 rounds since 2011. Since 2011 the falcons have drafted 4 oliners in round 1 ,2,3 and 7. We drafted oliners in : 1,2.3,4,4,5,5,5 and 6. Draft wise we have done a lot more for the offense then the falcons and i havent even considerd our pro bowl FB. If you want to argue about FA signings then go ahead but i would not recommend it lol

Its not Q nor other teams fault that they decided to throw the ball more to Q. Imagine if we did that from the start rather then wait till his last 4 games with us to figure out how he should be used.... Heck the FO probably wont have called him and ask him to take a cut or get trade him away .....

A rookie Newton had a much better season with SSS then a 7th , 8th and 9th year Vet in flacco. Matter of fact SSS earned pro bowl and 2nd team all pro honours. His 2nd season with Cam was pretty similiar to his first season here and his last season with cam was very similiar to his last season here. Highly doubt if he did not get injured he would put up better numbers in his 2nd season here then in his 1st season with Cam. Im also quite intrested what career highs he would set according to you. You must have a lot of faith in mallet/schaub if you think SSS would have kept the same pace with then as he had with flacco lol

He could improve this offense that is for sure but tbh that is not really that hard to do anyways lol. TBH if flacco can hit his receivers in stride and these receivers can make the clean catch then we have a very potent offense. Perriman and Wallace can take any short pass to the house if they can make a catch without losing momentum. Julio is good but not even he will be able to catch a jump ball on a slant, come down , break tackles and pick up YAC. Odds are high he will be taking huge hits and end on IR like the rest of our team lol

it would improve his numbers. only QBs themselves can improve their own game. julio wont improve flacco footwork or stop him from throwing off his back foot or stare down a receiver and throw it in double coverage lol. he will however make plays our current receivers cant make like he would probably catch and hang on onto those high passes and he probably dont drop passes when his is wide open.

there really is no excuse for the players not being on the same page and not having chemistry TBH.

the crime is that it suggest flacco is not perfect. if its not even his fault that a pass is extremely high then well yeah nothing will ever be his fault...

So the solution to these extreme high throws is to find Calvin Johnson clones rather then the QB just not throw it that high by fixing his footwork?

nah im putting my faith in it being the jags and the offense being better then last season lol then again if we loose wagner and dont adress the o-line and receiving core , ill be increasing my work out regime. gotta at least look in shape when juking them stewards hahaha

Dont decision making and football intelligence go hand in hand? agreed though that he is not a WCO passer. was wrong to turn him into 1 TBH. waste of his big arm as well.

So Wallace and SSS are now poor receivers?

that angle is a slow motion zoomed in replay..... yeah a guy like rodgers has the instincts to make such a play but he is also about the only guy who can do just that. matt ryan has never been that type of guy so expecting him to become one is not fair at all. for the record a guy is not neutralized when is in the backfield sacking the QB lol. the other rushers who got stood up at the LOS where neutralized. these 2 rushers had beaten their man badly. if anyone is to blame its them TBH but quite frankly id still say it was a bad play call followed by an even worse one where the o-line got beat again and called for holding. im trying to hint at the o-line getting beat and bad play calling.... lets not forget no receiver open as well. pretty sure these where well used excuses this past season for us and are pretty much recurring excuses. quite curious what has matt ryan done to you guys that for him this is not even considered and he should shoulder all the blame? Yeah flacco was impressive on the 4 game SB run but lets not pretend there have not been quite a few other games where he lost or almost lost us games in similiar situations and the theme has pretty much always been that it was never all his fault..

you dont see a guy coming from his blind side and 1 coming up the middle at pretty much the same right after he was done with his drop? not sure where you wanted him climb the pocket to be honest, nor did i see anyone open , nor do i think its a wise idea to attempt a pass while going backwards with a defender all over you. i mean you actually see a defender running to the sidelines so throwing it away seems very risky.... but before we continue i would like to know if you guys actually believe what you are saying. cause i dont want to hear any troll accusations every time i bring this up when flacco is under pressure and its a negative play. lord knows if we loose wagner and dont upgrade this o-line its bound to happen with marty pass happy ways. if you guys actually think that a split second is enough to see pressure , evade and make a decision to throw it all within that time span then i can live that.

im quite confident that after he took the snap and started his 7 step dropback , he was looking at his targets and not how the o-line was blocking. that said on a 7 step back you should have more times then 2 seconds before a defender is in your face......