JacktheRaven

Joe is not going to take less money to help the team. Brady didn't either. They extend the contract and the player makes more in the end. There is no proof that teams with lot's of cap space translates to WINS. Just look at Cleveland, among others. They have 40 mil in cap space and the 2nd & 32nd picks in this draft. Trust me, Ravens are not losing games because of Joe's contract.

I agree.

Ravens had a winning season in '14, (10-6) and beat the steelers in the playoffs. And, don't confuse lot's of cap space & wins. They don't necessarily go together.

How sure are you that if The Ravens lower Joe's cap hit, and with all that money, solve the LT position and keep Joe upright?

I still think Joe's contract is overrated. Media & fans think that teams buy their way, with FOs, to win games. They also think we lose games because we lost players to FO, because of cap restraints. There is no proof that either of these scenarios are true. Ravens let a lot of players walk. They, ( Ngata, Jones, Grubbs, Torrey,Boldin, etc) are on a list of worst cap hits per production. A lot of fans think Ravens would win more games if they still had these players.Truth is, Ravens won't let a player go, if they truly want them. And, that list is small.

Maybe leave the predictions to the experts. " he's had his SB run. That's it" How the hell do you know! Where does it say that Brees & Rodgers have won more games & playoff games than Joe?

Ravens will extend any player they really want. They will sign tucker eventually, unless he falters. If K.O. & Upshaw are the "right player, right price", they'll sign both.

It's not bad news. It's just your opinion.

Yes, very different. Webb could have been released and would have signed for less with another team. Joe's not in that scenario.

If the Ravens want to keep Tucker, Aiken & KO, they will. I could argue that Monroe is the better player at the better price than KO. My guess is they'll keep Tucker & Aiken. They won't overpay for Aiken. He was the best receiver on a depleted receiver team.

"Restructure" is easy. We all would do it. Fans, and some media, are giving Joe too much credit for being a " great team player".And restructuring his contract does not make him a team player. Take a pay cut? That's a different story. The truth is, Joe's contract does not translate to wins or losses.

I said Joe's cap hit was overrated. The increase in the salary cap, over the last 3 years, has solved Joe's 28mil cap hit.

Question # 1. How can we get more turnovers? #2. How can we stop turning the ball over? Those 2 questions get solved and everything else will fall into place.

This cap "hit" is overrated. The ceiling has gone up 20 mil. in the last 2 years. That's enough to cover Joe's 28-29 mil cap this year. This will not hinder The Ravens ability to sign the players they want.

Philly fans thought Kelly was the greatest, a "Genius". They now, have run him out. Eagles will always be like this, as long as ownership listens to the fans.

Don't see much difference on the Jernigan hit on McCown, and the Upshaw hit,(roughing the passer)on big Ben a year or two ago.

I was a huge Colt fan. Broke my heart when they left but, you could see it coming. Being from western MD, a lot of Skins & steeler fans here. Some Colt fans moved over to those teams. The Skins were real good then. I couldn't like any other team so I just "checked out" for the next 13 years. Probably watched the SB every year, but that was about all I was interested in. When the Ravens came, I was a little slow in getting on board, but did. PSL owner since "03, and wouldn't have it any other way.

I don't get the criticism of Joe in the 4th qt. He gets his team ahead, and the D loses it. Then, he is criticized for not getting his team the lead TWICE in the 4th qt?

Babin will be more productive than Suggs, this season.

I have no confidence in Timmy staying healthy

Skip B. to R.Clark - " I appreciate your honesty". Settle down Skip. It's just a prediction

There's a number of reasons. 1. We stole our team. 2. Ravens are built on their D & toughness. 3. Other players with drugs, DUI, etc. ( Not the most by far). 3. Ray Lewis incident, Suggs, Rice, and now even the ex-cheerleader, and the security officer. Geesh

Bert Jones finished his career with the Rams. He wasn't with the Colts, when they moved.

B. Billick, ROH? Yes, he should be there. Unfortunately, E. Byner should not.

Marc & The Ravens will do what works at the time. The score, team, etc. will dictate what they'll do. Bandit666 is right. If your teams sucks and you're trailing, you'll be throwing a lot.