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That would be a dumb move. There isn't a better HC out there to replace Harbaugh. You can fire Marty and Pees, but Harbaugh is considered one of the best in the NFL unanimously by both fans and the league.

It is. In terms of grabbing the best candidate out there, we might be in bottom of barrel. If we don't have success next season and go anything lower than 8-8, the first one to be let go and be a scapegoat will be our 'new' OC or Marty.

So when do we have the cap to get back into contending for Lombardi again?

Has anyone broke down the dead money & savings cap to see the chance of us keeping both Brandon & Wagner?

As much as I don't want Marty as our OC next year, I have a feeling we will have a hell of a time trying to convince OC to come here. Our history firing and OC leaving after a year is a deterrence. I'm sure some factor of this played into keeping Marty. Although I do think our FO/Harb should've waited a bit till the decision was made.

That wasn't what I meant. He is a RG, but got in as a LG in pro bowl(as an alternate). Pretty cool things to see and something he can stash in his resume. You need to stop this obsession of yours stalking me.

Orr had a pretty good season. I did not expect people would see his talent considering he is not a big name. Props to Zac. Mosley is pretty much in every season, and Yanda ofc. Yanda as a left guard though...HOF worthy resume. Tucker pretty much is the best kicker in NFL. Soon as Vini/Gost is done, I assume Tucker will try to beat their resume if he can stay around the league long enough.

So what happen at the Jets game? Oh yeah, lets forgot 'those games' When he performed a 0 TD, 2 INT 55% completion game. He made a guy name Buster Skrine look good. Or how about when we went against Cleveland Browns. He wasn't even sacked once and he gave us a 2TD/2INT 55% completion game. Where his favorite WR was guy name Joe Haden. 2INT from Joe Flacco. Then he went against Cleveland Browns again @ our turf. Guess who his favorite target was? Joe Haden again. Giving him 3rd Interception of the season. Guess how many interception Joe Haden had this whole season? Three. Haden did not log a single interception from anyone else this whole season except Joe Flacco this year.

We lack a full SB roster. Part of that has to do with getting away from "Right player, right price" We have too many bloated contracts starting with Joe. Other one being useless DBs sitting on money(Kendrick/Arrington) and Doom missing for the past 2 years(either by injury or w/e). I also agree on the comment above. Our players are inconsistent. When you expect certain performances from certain players, you just did not see it happen. When the time comes when we actually have great playmakers and great depths on all sides of the field, that's when you will see us contending for the Lombardi again.

To those that wanted facts on Joe Flacco being inefficient: http://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/32522/ravens-cant-win-with-joe-flacco-being-the-nfls-most-inefficient-quarterback

ROFL. If he performed exactly as he did this season, he will be out of the woods in less than a year anywhere else. You must have forgotten every game other than the last 3 weeks of the season, b/c defense carried this team. It was statistically top 10 in every category. With the way he perform he would be where Brock Osweiler, Jay Cutler would be. Which is either a backup job or get canned in the NFL doing what he seems to consistently do well. Which is makiing babies @ offsesason and throwing INTs at the most stupidest crunch time(that clutch factor boys!)

John Harbaugh is a much better HC than Sean Payton. I understand your frustration keeping Marty. But give me a break...Harbaugh is one of the best HC in the NFL. Besides Bill, I can't name another coach that is more highly regarded than Harbaugh. You are a fool if you think Sean Patyon without Drew Brees, and working with Joe Flacco will replicate the same success he had with Brees.

So what does Flacco have to do Mink? Nothing? There in lies the problem in Baltimore. HELP HIM! FIRE THE REST! CHANGE THIS! CHANGE THAT! except everything is improving except flacco. hello???? he is the problem. he needs to play like a top tier QB. He needs to stop eyeing 1-target half the time. He needs to stop overthrowing/underthrowing barely catchable balls that can't produce YAC yards. He needs to build rapport with young receivers to make them into playmakers(never done that). He needs to stop relying on polished veteran receivers @ panic time. Nothing Flacco did shows progression and WORK ETHIC to be the great one. #1 issue: FLACCO! Then you can see changes drastically happen. Shift in minor pieces will help. But Flacco is the center that moves all the chain. Until then the clock will not move for Ravens to be back in SB contention.

This is just so sad and stupid. Half of folks has no idea or NEVER even try to watch how the other #2-#5 defense were this year. We finally have something going and you want to wreck it down and put it on shambles. Just smh.

Have you considered the chance of Ravens actually getting a 'great OC'? It might be lower than Browns being a playoff contenders next year. We basically fired 3 OCs(besides Kube) starting from Cam Cameron in embarassing fashion. What makes you think a OC will: 1) work with a now 10year vet QB that is regressing 2) fanbase that will always shift the blame on OC 3)HC that is more than willing to cut OC before season ends and believes QB can do no wrong Whether you want to believe it or not, no sane OC wants to come here with that kind of leverage. We have alot of coaches on staff that are well respected and well praised. But when it comes to OC specifically? We hace some weird fetish to put him in the dumps faster than anyone else in the nfl.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-notes-joe-flacco-to-meet-with-receivers-in-offseason-ravens-have-no-16-pick-in-draft-20170102-story.html First time Joe actually willing to do the right thing and start something early to improve his flaws. If your in the dumps, you got to put in the work. One of the very rare occassion where flacco is actually doing something right.

I think Flacco is just doing what he does every game. Eyeing on 1-target per game. He doesn't have the ability to see the field.

But I thought your 'boy' had 'passion' no? You know that quiet passion where he throws multiple INTs or play like crap.

Flacco throws over +20 yards is the worst in NFL this year. I think the only thing Flacco is thinking about right now is to prevent himself from throwing another INT. That is the best he can do atm.

I think everyone has. Except Joe doesn't have the ability to do that.

"We" is Flacco's favorite word when he throws more than 2 interceptions.

Its sad but true. Watch out for Flacco flocks to start peeing their pants and start spilling excuses in ...3....2....1..

Do i have to lay out Flacco's stat for you? Bet you he is winning the lottery being the worst in week 17

Joe's been a joke. He is more rustled than Ronda Rousey. Only thing he guarantees vs. Bengals is INTs on every game we play against them.

Yea a true performer with 1 TD /1INT. That will sure win us games 16 games a year.