RavensFanThick&Thin

Doesn't trading create less dead money that counts against the cap vs cutting? Maybe the swap was just to have each team get something in return to be a formal transaction?

I guess if they have to go, they go big (overpaid or not) so the team gets a good comp pick like with Osemele. I'm not sure what the exact comp pick formula is but it seems the Ravens would get a 3 and 4 OR maybe two 3s? Alex Lewis next man up...

Some have alluded to this but I think one obvious flaw in the Tom Brady "what if" is the Belichick factor. They missed Brady for 4 games this year and still got the #1 seed. They went 11-5 (Matt Cassell year) when Brady went down for a whole year. IMO, there's no way Brady would have as many rings without out him or just by being on the Ravens from 01-present. I just feel like no matter how we want to hate the Pats (cheating or not), Brady and Belichick were insanely good TOGETHER and Belichick maybe a bigger part of that than a Tom Brady "what if" scenario can give credit to. I get the "cheating" thing but can you put an asterisk next to 16 years of greatness? This is arbitrary of course. With that being said I still can't stand them and hate that It will be either them or the Steelers in the Super Bowl. lol.

I second that. If someone predicted cutting both butler and camp as well as elam and brooks hats off to you and your crystal ball. lol.

I was trying to understand the logic when I saw the app alert. I liked Hill as the most consistent DB we had but what it sounds like after reading the article is they are so desperate to have "playmakers" that they are willing to part ways with the consistent players who don't have ball playing instincts. Someone upstairs must have finally got tired of missing the Ed Reed free roaming/rangy safety days. IMO it is a risk/reward situation. They are willing to risk proven players for new "playmakers." Weddle (new to the system) is a great vet but if we're honest, they're is a risk he truly is on the decline after 31. Webb (new to the position outside of college and a some snaps last year) has the best hands but can he stay on the field and produce at safety? It's both exciting and worrisome...

Seem like a great pick to solve the LB coverage issues as long as his other pro day checks out. That and a draft day 2 CB in the draft would make a really nice coverage package with the recent addition right? I'm not a defensive package expert but something like a 2-4-5? DBs Wright/Day 2 CB...Weddle...Hill....Webb/Davis (slot)...Smith LBs Sizzle...Mosley...Jack...Doom (sprinkle in a draft day 2/3 pass rusher?) DL Williams...Jernigan

Interesting. First thing I thought is, that makes sense especially considering he should have decent run blocking coming from a run first college program. Then I saw his scouting report and it listed it as a weakness. Oh well, lol. At least if it works out he'll be a ridiculous mismatch on speed alone.

I was thinking this as well. I know people were saying he only gave us one game before injury but if he can project that one great slot game over the course of a season, I think he absolutely is in the conversation (particularly superseding Arrington in the slot even though that was supposed to be Arrington's specialty).

Perriman "bust" comments/arguments never fail to pop up when he is mentioned. I think the obvious statement is "it depends." There is no dictionary definition of "NFL bust." It depends on your own definition of bust. Is it the 3 year window? Is it the 1st rounder must contribute now/year 1? Does it exclude those who are injured or never take the field? If he is a bust to someone and not you, no sweat. Me personally, I don't really care much for titles (bust, injury prone). Just the ebb and flow of the NFL/draft. I just really want to see those physical gifts translated on field. It's exciting to see the Ravens with someone who might be the most physically gifted player and quite possibly the highest ceiling of any Ravens player we've seen drafted in a while.

and outside of injuries the last thing we need is our own turf swallowing Tucker's foot right? lol.

The Frazier hiring seems the most promising if not the most exciting because I don't think I am the only fan who thinks the Ravens secondary has um...how should we say it, "dropped the ball."

If I had to play this thing out in my head I'd say Steelers beat Bengals while Dalton is out. Kansas beat Houston so they can play NE based on seeding. KC beat NE in Div round, Broncos beat Steelers Div round. Don't care between Broncos and KC although I don't think I will ever forget how arrogant Bronco's fans seemed to have been in the Ravens SB year. But if I had to choose if one went all the way between Steelers and Bengals, it'd be the Bengals. Am I allowed to think sometimes that they've suffered enough? lol. Not to say that five "1 and done's" in the playoffs wouldn't be a laughing point as well though.

They looked good as a 1-2 punch. West looked pretty nifty for being a heavier back just getting thrown back into a rotation. I'd like to see what they can do against a good run defense.

Well that went south quickly. lol.

Nice to see they are seeing what Brown's got along with the other WR's like Butler. His size is intriguing. At the very least, no matter what happens, at least I won't have to see that die hard group of fans commenting on every WR related article possible about how great he is based on 2 plays in the last pre-season game against 3rd team players...