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I think its been disastrous more so because ozzie literally waits till the end of every draft to pick up bottom of the pile wr thats most likely gonna be on the practice squad.

Fullers returning to ND next year.Hoping Doctson slips to the 2nd and Hargreaves in the first.

I literally said the same thing just now.you cant write this stuff lol

Joes my boy but hes literally giving this game away smh

This!

I wouldn't even call some of those receivers one dimensional

Yep.We can't go into next season with this type of wr corps.In addition to your point,if you cant get a top 5 wr,nothing wrong with a mix of wrs outside the top 5 and good wr from the draft.

Jimmys not sorry(I shoulda wrote that hes the exception)but hes not playing up to the contract we've given him.Webb since his last injury hasn't been the same and is no longer a #2 cb in the league and has regressed largely.I agree that free safety play shores the mediocre cb play but it can only do so much.We've tried to address pass rush but many of our picks haven't been hitting.Arthur Brown,John Simon,Upshaw,,Lewis Moore,Za darius Smith, Jernigan,Williams,Urban etc.Those are alot of talented guys and we still haven't seen a great pass rush.Not saying they have to be ray lewis but with the exception of Jerningan and Williams,non of those guys have shown anything of what they were projected to be.Simon isn't even on the team anymore.Lewis Moore is just getting on the field for the first time in 2 years.Urban's following the same path.I understand injuries happen but I'm just showing what we've invested in and how they've worked out so far.What i'm saying is that we should start investing the same resources and have the same urgency on other parts of the team.

Im a lot more comfortable with Zadarius and Dumervil than with the sorry cbs that we've been putting out there the last three years.We put all these resources into the front seven but for the last couple year lb or pass rusher is always an offseason "need".We get these guys so its time to let them play and see what they have.What i'm saying is when it comes to wr and secondary concerns,ozzies willing to get whatever bandaid solution,6-7th round pick or undrafted free agent to come in and will leave it like that and rinse and repeat every offseason.Meanwhile if theres even one glaring need on the front seven,he gets it addressed.Theres clearly a bias for one sector of the defense and team and theres no way to dispute this.Even if we have a good pass rush with a good front seven like last year,our secondary still gets shredded because when you dont invest the resources in the secondary,you get exactly what were seeing right now.I also get that Pees plays a factor in this but then that would also mean that he plays a role in why we have no rush,the same way we our secondary is trash.

I agree with you with most of what you wrote Joey,but there is no way that lb/edge rusher is a bigger hole than cb or wr on this team.With the amount we've invested int he front seven in terms of draft resources,the secondary has to be the biggest focal point this offseason along with the receiving core.Ozzie's neglected them for way too long and the results are showing.Thats not to say pass rush isn't important but we can't keep doing this in which we put the majority of picks into one segment of the defense.

Cap space willing,Weddle and Jeffery please!

Word.I shouted at my screen for Ozzie to get him as the draft was going on.Still gets me mad to this day.

I look at it the same way.It really puzzles me how people can be content with these subpar receiving cores every year with guys like Aiken,Camp,Brown,Stokley,Butler etc.Even suggest guys like Kearse or Marvin Jones.jones is good but i think he's more a product of that offense with Green and Eifert.As long as were content and neglect the receiving corps,well have the same issue every year.

Oh no doubt.We were talking about him strictly as a DC

For real .Joe aint goin nowhere.Him and the FO will work something out.Even if we were gonna trade,it wouldn't be any of these qbs.

Once again i feel you lost, but i think wr needs to be in there along with with fs and cb before olb or rb.In this age of the nfl(not saying we need to go all offense),with Joe as our guy were building around and the money we're investing,we need an 1 and 2 and possibly 3 recievers that strike fear in any opponent we play.Especially with the defenses in the north.The we put rb and olb before wr every time is why we always have it as a need.Just saying.

Agreed.I just wish sometimes we go for need instead of BPA when it comes to reciever or corner.When the front seven has a need whether its bpa or not,ozzie gets it.Just wish he would show the same love to the corps and secondary.

I feel you Lost but there were some blatant misses that for some reason or not Ozzie didn't pick up.I can still remember in 2013 screaming at the tv for him to pick up keenan allen in the 3rd round(Rookie of the year or a Jordan Matthews in 2014 in the 2nd(even if we had to do a trade).Alshon Jeffery in 2012 instead of trading back to get courtney upshaw.I understand that you can't predict how these guys skills will translate to the league but that never stopped him on defense.Kindle,Cody,Elam,Brown,Upshaw could all be used as examples of busts but we still pump out picks on the defense we understand that drafting isn't a science.Also I think alot of our picks hit because we had a framework core of Lewis,Reed,Ngata and Suggs and many guys would look good next to them(which would explain why most defenders that leave Baltimore in FA really dont do anything expectations wise).Im sure if we had a definite 1 and 2 combo, we could add average wrs and they could work. On last example is how with a talented class of receivers in 2014 ozzie managed to only come away with Camp in the 7th round.We never really got a good gauge of Ozzies receiver drafting skill in the Flacco era because he literally uses the last picks to pick them up,which lets be honest, those guys are most likely going to the practice squad.

Not trying to sound mean,but with smith retiring and perriman being an unknown at this point,and our lackluster receivers,Jones and Kearse aren't really a that big of a threat in any receiving core.We can't keep neglecting wr like that.

Haven't seen much of gibson but i hear hes good.If we were gonna throw money at someone I would love it to be Eric Weddle.Not sure how the talks are now but a couple months ago him and the chargers were in disputes over an extension and even trade suggestions were thrown around.Not sayin he'd be cheap but he would be the veteran fs we would need.Not too old and we would know exactly what we're getting.Also if we do get a top 10 pick if we could snatch up a top corner like hargreaves that would be great. Cb1-Smith Cb2-Hargreaves SS-Hill FS-Weddle. Now we'd be in business.

You make good points,but with all of the resources invested in the front 7,i dont care how good the pass rushers are.Ozzie can't possibly neglect cb or wr again this year considering we can possibly have a top 10 pick.I think he should double dip for each position in 2016

If only this were possible.We'd be good to go!

I get what your saying.I agree.I've always said that I respect John but i dont always trust him.Things such as clock management down the stretch, many of the challenges he makes and his 4th down decisions instead of taking points knowing your team needs them.Also his passive attitudes in press conferences such as downplaying something when its clearly wrong or making adjustments when his assistants clearly aren't getting it done(Cam,Mattison,Pees,Trestman).Hes a great coach and I'm glad to have him here,plus his job is safe but I don't think hes really that good of a football mind.More of a players type of coach.

lol.I get about 3 or 4 of those on Bleacher Report team stream every week

Same here.I'll root for them until there mathmatically done but I'm not so much of a fan that I cant see the truth.This team just isn't very good and the injuries that keep piling cripple us every week.Not to mention the coaching staff gives us nothing to believe in with their schemes and actions.