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44 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Well, in fairness, its only been the last few years.

Short answer would be personnel and depth. Obviously we haven't had stability at LT really since Ogden left, so that doesn't help.

Youth on the left side is sort of a problem, but our starting five is quite good to be honest. They may not always consistently good, but the starting unit is easily a top 10 unit in the league.

We clearly lack depth at key spots, namely tackle. Basically had 40% of our Oline out yesterday against a quality pass rush unit, so that'll be a problem as long as that continues.

The youth/substitute thing is definitely a factor, but I don't think enough attention is paid to the sharp drop-off in both run-game and pass protection since Juan Castillo was hired, first as an O-line consultant and now as the O-line coach. 

Part of being in that position is developing young talent, and I just don't see him doing that. James Hurst and Ryan Jensen were both talented guys when we added them several years ago, but neither of them seem to have improved much since they started with the team. Contrast that with other positions, like D-line (RIP CB) and I/OLB, where we've had lots of young talent come through and go from raw to polished in a few years. I don't like to call coaches out, but in this case with the O-line, that's probably on the coaching staff. If you're not making your young players better, then you need better coaching.

1 hour ago, A Fish Called Yanda said:

So far it simply comes down to not being able to execute properly on offense. We have managed to scrape up 3 wins in games that we could have very easily lost simply because of errors by our offensive players. There have been dropped balls, poor passes, and a terrible run game (caused both by the blockers and RBs). The good thing is all of these items are fixable - and hopefully our team continues to gel through this "easy" stretch of the schedule in order to increase our ability to execute properly.

My main worry right now isn't even with the offense - it's the lack of pass rush we are getting against opponents that don't exactly have stellar offensive lines. We have gotten lucky on defense with our opponents committing the same sort of execution errors that we've seen from our own offense. Numerous receivers were wide open on Sunday against the Jags but Bortles simply overthrew the ball on a couple of passes that would have gained significant yardage. I'm worried that when we play against better QBs (the first coming up this Sunday), we will not be able to rely on our opponents bailing us out with mistakes like this, and at the end of 60 minutes we may not be able to claw ourselves another win like we've done so far this season.

But those problems aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. When your offense struggles, especially against a team like the Jags who are LOADED with speed at the wideout and TE positions, your defense has to play more snaps, and it's more likely that your DBs get overworked chasing after thinner, faster guys. And so people get open. So if the offense can get even a mediocre run game going, I think we start to see our DBs having less trouble keeping up over the course of the games.

Also, it's worth mentioning that every QB, not just Blake Bortles, has trouble with accuracy beyond 20 yards. Even Joe, who everyone always says has the best deep arm in football, frequently struggles to hit wide open receivers way downfield, because it's just that hard to do, even at the highest level of football. That doesn't mean that you should make a habit of leaving guys open, but it means that the chances of a team regularly beating you that way are small compared to other potential weaknesses, like a porous run D or not being able to keep up with TEs/slots on crossing routes.

21 minutes ago, bnyce52 said:

I don't believe a single thing Harbs says about injuries anymore. He clearly doesn't respect the medical profession or just isn't interested in the reality of injury recovery time. I'd rather just hear directly from the training staff at this point. It's at the point where we have to get the facts from Adam Schefter, who reported that it's a grade 1 MCL sprain which is a 1 to 3 week recovery. So no Harbs, it won't be "maybe even tomorrow, we'll see". Just acknowledge that you expose the team to injury. Yea, we're well conditioned. That's very important. But in the process we're also not able to develop a lot of players or have them on game day because of PRACTICE. Just own it coach.

Thank you, I've been saying this for years. Harbaugh, as good of a coach as he is, clearly doesn't like reporting anything close to the truth about injuries and worse, he clearly encourages players to rush back onto the field after an injury, making them more likely for future injuries. We have too many guys that come out of injuries and get injured within a few weeks trying to compensate for what's clearly not a healed injury.

  58 minutes ago, whobilly said:

When you pin the ball on the glass while blocking a shot isn't it goaltending?

No it's not. If it's simultaneous, it's a clean block. 

Now if Iguadola lays it up and it's coming off the glass and Lebron touches it, then yes it's goaltending.  

Actually that's not totally true. You're right that he can't touch it once it hits the glass, but if it's truly simultaneous (ball, hand, and backboard), it's called a trap and it's also considered goaltending. The reason this isn't goal tending is if you watch it full-speed and from different angles, you can see that he slaps the ball against the glass, then his momentum carries him into the ball again, but his hand slides across it. It's close, but he never actually traps the ball against the backboard.

I'd be surprised if the Ravens draft Tunsil given his injury history (especially that knee injury in 2013). He had three major injuries in three 13 game seasons. I know a clean college injury history doesn't mean they are necessarily always going to be injury-resilient (see: Perriman last year), but his history will probably make them too nervous to invest a 6th pick in him. Maybe he is just that great of a talent that he's worth the risk to some teams, but given we've already got an injury-prone LT, you've got to figure they're going to use a later round pick on a reliable guy with a lower ceiling instead to fill out that backup LT role for now.

This schedule is fantastic. Opening at home, a weak first half, playing the Steelers after our bye, one Thursday night game against our weakest division opponent... plus, we get the chance to ruin Christmas in Pittsburgh!

Pretty much most of the games where he plays the Jets and still beats them. 

Those teams had very good secondaries (Revis...) most of the time and a weak pass rush without blitzing, so that kind of undermines your point.

The key to beating the Patriots, in general, is to a have a great, well-balanced defense. You can pass rush well against him all day long and he'll still tear you apart. The secondary of Denver was arguably as big of a key to the game as anything.

That's not really true. He had lots of guys open yesterday that he couldn't get the ball to because he was hesitating on his throws after getting hit too many times. It was exactly how we beat him in 2012, and that secondary wasn't exactly all-world, but that defense held them scoreless over the entire second half because guys like Suggs, Arthur Jones, McPhee, Ngata, etc, were getting in his face and knocking him down all the time. The same was true in the 2012 Denver game, which without 2 special teams TDs by Trindon Holliday, would've been a blowout win due in part to a frustrated Peyton Manning.

The mistake people make is confusing natural pressure with blitzing. Lots of teams (like Rex Ryan's Jets and Bills teams) try to beat him with blitzing, but he just recognizes it and hits a hot receiver for 6-12 yards. That's why we couldn't ever beat him or Manning while Rex was our DC (and one reason I was fine with not making him our HC in 2007). Exotic blitz packages are great against mediocre and new quarterbacks, but Brady and Manning just take advantage of the empty middle of the field and make you pay.

He's a really good, versatile back with a lot of upside, but he just keeps his body too upright when he runs. He's going to keep having fumble problems if that continues.

Misleading and overblown article. Pernell Mcphee's rookie season was split role time playing on a D-line with Ngata, Suggs, Kruger, and Arthur Jones. With Ray Lewis and company right behind him. Za'darius Smith has basically had an entire season at his disposal, and with Dumervil alongside still they couldn't hardly bring any pressure to save their own life.

Not sure how to follow this argument. Why would you expect more from Za'Darius than McPhee, if you admit that McPhee had a better team around him?  Of course "they couldn't hardly bring any pressure to save their own life", because in 2015 they had a majority of their sacks from 2014 either at home in a walking boot or playing for the Lions and Bears.  It's easier to pile up sacks and tackles as a rookie when your opponent has to put guys on Suggs, Ngata, and Arthur Jones.

Definitely the difference between his and McPhee's rookie PFF grades is the fact that for McPhee's rookie year (and really for his first 2.5 years), he was only really put in on true pass rush situations (3rd and long, usually), catering to his strength. Due to Suggs's injury, Z. Smith was rushing the passer in far more difficult circumstances than McPhee was. With that considered, a -3.8 grade (that's cumulative, not average) over 15 games, for a 4th round rookie is pretty darn good.

The only cure for the secondary is for the Defense to rush four no more than five and spread out the other players like they did to stop the squeelers! D. Smith got his INT reading the QB eyes that game and everyone played lites out football! This is an easy fix, it doesn't take a rocket scientist!

Normally I agree with you, but last year that team couldn't get pressure with 4 or even 5 guys... except in the Steelers games (thank you Za'Darius!). Without Suggs, Pernell, or Haloti in there the QBs had way too much time, and the only way to get pressure was to blitz.  The solution is to get more pressure without having to blitz, and once you can do that, you can stop blitzing; not the other way around.

"He allowed just 124 passing yards and one touchdown in the next 10 games"

 That's really impressive for a guy we picked up off the street mid-season.

I really don't care who they pick because they have so many needs from previous bust but this time do YOUR STUPID HOMEWORK and DO YOUR JOB. All you had to do is Google Perriman and you knew he had issues with his knee.

This is silly. He never missed a game in 3 years of college. Maybe relax a bit before going off on some of the best FO people in all of sports.

Be extremely surprised to see us take a CB so high. Ravens tend to think of CBs as guys you either get in free agency, or draft low and develop over time. Jimmy Smith was an exception, but even he was picked really late in the 1st, and only because they believed he was a top 10 talent that fell to them. He still took 2 years to develop into a starting-caliber corner, so they may be reluctant to make that kind of risky investment again. Just my 2c, based on history.

But who knows, maybe they saw how quickly Patrick Peterson (drafted 20 spots ahead of Jimmy) made an impact, and they go the other way if they feel like Ramsey is that level of talent.

If I know Ozzie, though, he's going to go O-line or D-line first, or trade back. And don't be surprised to see them draft an OLB/DE at 6: I don't think they're confident in Zadarius Smith, this is probably Suggs's last year (sigh), and Doom is getting older and isn't a 3-down OLB. They have to know they need Suggs's replacement this year or next.

Flacco a winner, Rex QB's not winners. Rex is a better coach and Flacco is a better quarterback.

This is a silly rationale. Rex Ryan wanted Mark Sanchez. They traded up for him because Ryan wanted him. He got a Mark Sanchez tattoo, for crying out loud.  You can't divorce Mark Sanchez's failures from Rex Ryan.

We were 5-11 last year looking to add playmakers and we are completely hindered by backloaded contracts of Jimmy, Webb, Flacco, Monroe, and Pitta.

We started the 2015 season with over $8m in free cap space. Cap room had virtually nothing to do with the failures of the team in 2015.

Aiken doesn't get a lot of separation, and we know with Joe that means he's reluctant to throw the ball to him, even though Aiken has a great ability to fight for the ball and has very good hands. Joe has done this with basically every possession receiver he has had, which is why Derrick Mason and Anquan Boldin regularly had to tell him: "Just give me a chance, I will get the ball". It takes awhile for Joe to truly trust a possession receiver.

Brandon Williams is a bad, bad man.

Flacco and Aiken absolutely BAILED Trestman out on that last drive. They were already in field goal position, and yet despite every one of Urschel's shotgun snaps being lollipops, they decide to go into shotgun AGAIN, which leads to a botched snap, a sack, and a loss of 10 yards, being pushed out of FG range, and then Joe HAS to throw out of shotgun. Thankfully Joe threw a good ball, Aiken fought through contact, and drew the PI, or we were headed to OT instead of walking off with a win.

Seems obvious. Thats why I still say that the question is not whether and with whom we can "replace" him, but whether and how Pees can adjust the D to minimalize the adverse effects of Sizzle's loss. I like Pees much better than most Ravens-fans, so I'm confident he will find a way to make Sizzle's absence hurt as little as possible... For it's gonna hurt us, no doubt about that. But I beleive Pees can do what can possibly be done.

Seems obvious, and yet Mike "I don't know how I got this job either" Preston has a whole article about how Suggs is basically overrated and totally replaceable.  Sigh.

It's your regularly scheduled post-first loss panic attack!

Pessimists: IF OZZIE DOESN'T TRADE ALL OF OUR 2016 DRAFT PICKS FOR A WIDE RECEIVER WE'LL GO 0-16!

Optimists: SUGGS BEING OUT MEANS ZA'DARIUS GETS MORE REPS AND HE COULD BE THE SECOND COMING OF LAWRENCE TAYLOR! Have fun guys. It's week one.

Let's be real: Suggs is irreplaceable over there. His rare combination of skill at both pass rushing and run defending, as well as his leadership, are matched by few players at that position (or any position, for that matter). The good news is, that defense looked exceptional yesterday, so they will hopefully be able to fill in for him well enough that it doesn't become a glaring skill gap, like it was last year at the CB position.

I'm gonna miss him though, he's been my favorite player for about 10 years now. I know this hurts him. In the season opener in 2012, I was crazy enough to spend my savings on some mid-field tickets in the 2nd row, above the home locker room entrance. At half-time Sizz was walking through with the guys (he was recovering from his first achilles tear at that time) and he just seemed miserable. Part of it was definitely that the team wasn't doing great, but the other part was that I could tell he was really upset that he wasn't out there. I yelled out, "Hey Sizz! Ball So Hard!" (because I had to), he looked up and did like a half-smile and said "Ball So Hard" back, but you could just see he wasn't himself.

Anyway, yesterday's news felt like a punch to the ol' breadbasket for me, so I can't imagine what it was like for him. Here's hoping he comes back next year and puts on another dominant performance as one of the Raven's (and NFL's) all-time greats.

I think a fair bit of the doubts you see here include the likelihood that since Rashaan Melvin and Timmy Jernigan are hurt and not practicing, they are not playing!

Jernigan came back yesterday, it's possible he gets rotated in somewhat on Sunday, but Carl Davis can play just as well, with Bilukidi and KLM spelling him.  And then we've got Brandon Williams gobbling up double-teams, Canty/Upshaw setting edges and Suggs/Doom rushing... Jernigan being limited is only a small piece of that d-line being successful.

Melvin is the 4th corner, the only way he gets any extended time is if one of the other three goes down, and even then it'll only be in nickel packages.  That's not something to be worried about this week.  And the team may make a roster move to compensate (probably Asa) on Saturday anyway.  But again: 4th CB.  You don't need a lot of nickel packages against Kubiak offenses.

Yeah I know best receiver is usually double covered by a linebacker/safety and their number 2 corner but Harris is such a good corner to be honest I bet he could limit Steve Smith all day. I love Steve but Harris is also a stud. As the defensive coordinator in Denver I would almost want to limit how many players were on Smith to shut down the run if at all possible.

He is a very good corner and honestly size-wise matching him up with Steve makes sense as well, since Talib is much bigger/slower than Harris is.  But if they put him on Kamar instead, that takes him out of the game and basically leaves us with one receiving option who's going to be double-covered all night, because I don't see Kamar getting a ton of separation on Harris (even though I love Kamar). You want to force your opponent to have to choose between throwing into double coverage or throwing into tight single coverage.