Some take "In Ozzie we Trust" way too far. All called for offense in their mock drafts - now they're saying how GREAT this draft was. At least until we start playing and we're still crap in all the areas we were crap in last season! Too funny really.
I wanted to get Bishop Sankey (wouldn't have gotten him that high), Devante Adams, ASJ, Amaro, Allen Robinson, Lache Seastrunk, but sadly, it didn't turn out that way.
Wanted Sims. Really pissed off with the RB we got
Well, unless you wanted Sims in the second, you can't be pissed because it's not like they passed on him in the third.
Today the Patriots single handedly destroyed the honor of the Lombardi & tarnished its image. On top of that, they have destroyed any meaning that SB MVP held by awarding it to Tom Brady after a 2 INT game. Shameful.
i totally understand what ur saying and ill agree that qb's get the most recognition for SBMVP by default, it takes a huge effort from any other player to take it away from a qb who throws for more td's than int's. but i thought when you watched that game, it just appeared that edelman was the best player on the field, and some will look at it and say edelman carried brady, others will say brady carried the team, im of the former group lol
I guess my point was that if Flacco had done exactly what Brady did - you can bet your bottom dollar he would not have received that MVP. Jacoby would have. Brady got that award because he is Brady despite the fact that he threw 2 INTs which were the primary reason they needed that 4th quarter comeback.
easily the best status I've ever seen regarding the patriots after the Super Bowl. Especially the speculation they bring up every in the playoffs playing the ravens. They are a disgrace to football in my opinion.
lol power corrupts some apparently. delete button is easy - responding to a lack of objectivity is obviously too difficult for some.
@bye week. can't spell
oh forgot @The Raven up here in PA it certainly feels like that is freezing over! Along with the rest of the world!
Sometimes we want members to realize that too Ravensdfan... that we are people too.... We do our best. We just want our site to be the best in the league. We want our members to have fun... and support our team.
Perhaps we need some articles with historical content when I see someone suggest #19 as a jersey number for a rookie. Then someone else say they don't see why not. And 5 up votes. Depressing.
Sad, but not too surprising. Most of the people on here weren't even alive when the Baltimore Colts existed.
Respect, legacy, honor, etc.......
Back in my day....
Let's recap: one failed a drug test, one has a "fleshy mid-section" and one has "minimal production on the ball - not a playmaker". I'm not impressed.
Well.. you can certainly get worse than Oher, but it does help that we CAN get better now that he's gone.
I don't know - you think we're going to find a RT in the 4th round or later who is better than Oher?
I don't know if there are any good premiere tackles left in the draft that won't be development projects. Outside of the draft, Eric Winston is still available and we also have to at least see how Wagner or Reid hold up. We can throw in the towels if we see that those guys suck. But there's the chance that they can be solid.
The fact that Pees is still here this morning makes me question the FO for the first time since the Cam Cam days.
Unless we are trying to convince Jim Schwartz to come here, I don't see why it takes this long to say "Your Fired".
Please bring Jim Schwartz
Jim Schwartz is not coming here unless he's going to be defensive consultant. No body hires a defensive coordinator during the regular season . I don't think Dean Pees will be fired today either
Hate to see the Panthers in the SB: Cam is arrogant & a show boater, the defense is dirty & gets away with it & it is going to suck for SSS. Go Denver!
You described the old Ravens and Ray Lewis, don't let the media forge your opinion my friend.
And for the record, Cam didn't rip down ANY banner. A panthers fan dropped the flag to him, he threw it. Seahawks fans got pissy,nothing unusual there.Â
I disagree. I haven't seen any dirty play, except hard hitting and good tackling. As for Cam, what's not to like, he plays football smart, protects himself, a good leader [learned how to win] and has fun. Don't dislike him because he's winning and" not grabbing his crotch". Truly I have a real dislike for Elway, #18 and the Broncos. LOVE my Ravens, but Go Panthers!
What I Learned Today: Our season is over, the entire team are thugs cuz of one man, below average defensive play is now not only acceptable in Baltimore but applauded, we have zero chance to beat the Steelers, Joe Flacco is garbage no matter how many wins/records he has, there is a conspiracy around every corner. Forum Logic 101
lmao really people. Is sarcasm dead?
Apparently it is on the internet lol
@D-Rey I guess from now on I will have to add a disclaimer *sarcasm* hahahaha
So the NFL officiating crew literally cost us the win. (Admitted by the NFL)This is a big deal though with the WC race as close as it is AND to the Colts. So what are they going to do about it?
To be clear, I don't think we win out - but, what if we do and this loss is what keeps us from the playoffs?
Then we don't make playoffs and have awful draft position.
Well then, I don't ever want to hear anyone put down the "the officials hate us" crowd anymore. I think this year proves we are scrutinized more than any other team and flags are thrown just because we're us.
That Washington team is abominable! RGIII was getting slammed and they left him in there to take the shots! In Preseason! Now he is injured. Grrrrrr!
Cousins > Bob3
I agree Cousins is greater than RG3. Cousins has started less than a seasons worth of games. Hard to say he can't be there long term answer. He probably isn't though.
He's more suited to be a drop back QB and a much better fit for Jay Gruden
If we come back with the coaching staff intact, we will be the same old, same old no matter what players we put on the field. Boring & predictable on all sides of the ball.
I said a few weeks before the season ended I bet he sticks with Castillo and maybe promotes him. not one mention is he pressor about castillos abject failure this season.
It's very disheartening. Especially to get our hopes up with creative play calling & letting Joe loose during the playoffs. Only to jar us back to Earth this season and make no changes after how it went down.
maybe some changes are coming . I'm hopeful next year , with a good draft we right the ship. but they need to agree on one offensive scheme and all coach the same or we get bi polar offese again
I figure the delay in hiring an OC does not mean good things. Most likely promoting Hostler. Ugh. Oh, Go Seahawks!
Linehan would be a great hire. At least we will see some screen passes lol. He always had a great offense, Detroit's defense was the problem.
@Raven It's been so long since we've actually gone through a hiring process in this manner, I'd forgotten how horribly slow we are to do anything lol
Well, from what Harbs said today in an interview, I think we'll know by the end of the week
I don't understand the mentality of those who come in after a loss like this week just to bash the team, Flacco, Harbaugh, etc. We don't see you all season long, but BAM! once there's a loss, there you are. Get a life!
@Ozzie guy I get that and I know everyone puts their heart & soul in. I can take it from those here all season long. It's the ones who only show up after a devastating loss. Like we don't feel bad enough & now we have to deal with their trolling.
A great example of why I rarely go into Ravens Talk. lol
Ravens Talk is a cesspit this week - and the only other times I've used that word as an adjective are for the Falcons forum and the city of Detroit.
Steelers or Cincy? What's your poison?
@BmoreBird I agree. Cincy losing yet again is only good if Dalton starts IMO.
Absolutely loathe both teams, Steelers more, but I get a satisfaction out of how poorly Dalton has played.
I hope the Bengals win and I hate the Bengals, because theyre guaranteed to choke. Maybe James Harrison will stay retired.
ESPN still proving what a joke they've become. Shame.
The day Berman retires is the day the albatross gets off their back
Got to say Bayless and SA Smith are un watchable
Bayless makes mad bank spouting utterly insane nonsense.
I had a moment of making fun of Johnny Football. Then I saw highlights from the Bengals/Browns game. I acually felt sorry for him with how many times they flaunted the money sign
He started it. So he gets it. lol
I hope the Ravens front 7 makes the "money sign" numerous times verses Johnny Bench!
While he does deserve it, I hope our D-line is carfull. Don't want a taunting penalty.
Has Wired replaced Behind the Bench? If so, don't like it, not the same. Miss Behind the Bench!
okay so I would let them know but..have no idea how to get to 1 winning drive now lol
That was last year I think, let me find Grapple or Mod 3 they watched them
I found it myself lol. This is from last year-- feel free to PM me if you don't want all your thoughts on your profilehttp://www.baltimoreravens.com/videos/videos/1-Winning-Drive-Week-8-2013-1st-Half-Recap/e2912be1-2176-4c2e-aacb-5bc6e103aea7.
Broncos are loading up - Peyton's last gasp?
Thanks, Ware is 13 million, Talib has to be 10 mill, and Ward close to 10 as well. Do you know if Chris Harris is a FA. He is better then Corey Grahm IMHO.
No I don't think Harris is a FA. The talk was about him & Talib being "reunited" in Denver.
Bottom line for them was they realized that even if a quarterback can lead a subpar postseason defense to a Superbowl (gee, I wonder what kind of QB can do that), it's not going to be Peyton Manning.
say what you want but I am already prepared for some lopsided officiating on Monday. You know they want Brees to be that 3rd one to beat all 32 teams.
Not rigging - and not even the NFL per se - but if you think those refs don't have preferences and biases you're kidding yourself. Everyone does. Imagine yourself as an official for a Ravens game - you'd try to objective, you'd want to be objective - but do you really think you'd be 100% successful? you're awfully naive if you believe that. These guys are fans too.
Yes, and some of the refs may be Ravens fans too... ever consider that? Ever consider the possibility that Saints fans are saying the exact same line... "gee I hope the refs don't screw us".
Not like the refs of tonights game are all born and raised in New Orleans or anything like that. In fact, I'd almost guarantee that none of them are.
I think its incredibly naive to think refs actually officiate a game that way...
A NY, a NJ, a Mass. a California, a Georgia, and Alabama. That's where they're all from tonight. And yes, i've seen games officiating in our favor before. Many here like Hochuli. he's tough but he's fair they say. Well 3 members of his crew are from MD. Wonder if that's a coincidence.
well gotta say it - the way those first two picks went pretty much killed my hope for a much improved offense.
And I look for a rebound year from Yanda. He just wasn't himself last year. Hopefully KO returns to full strength too. Not gonna miss Oher's false starts.....
Defense over Offense buddy, just look at the Super Bowl.
Defense over offense if you're at least solid on offense. If we learned anything from the debacle that was our offense last year - you can't continually ignore it and expect to be competent if players get injured.
From ESPN: "The 2015 NFL WR draft class may do more than just match last season's historic group -- it may eclipse it altogether:" Just putting it out there.
@joeyflex It's hard to see anyone being better than Odell. He really had a historic rookie season. I agree that that this draft has more depth, but I'd take Jordan Matthews over anyone in the second this year.
i was obsessed with jordan matthews last year, but i certainly like both dorsett and agholor more. and that ones up for debate but man amari cooper is just so good, he is like the cj mosley of wr's, football just comes so naturally for him and there just isnt one area where he doesnt have elite talent(maybe besides his height)
Thanks guys for all the opinions! I don't follow college football so I do love hearing everyone's thoughts on the draft prospects.
Since we're probably stuck with Pees, better give the offense all the off season love because they'll have to be putting up 40 burgers or more regularly to advance anywhere meaningful.Pees doesn't understand "clutch" defense.
We run off zone. That's what we live and die by. Levine and Webb would get roasted in press. I doubt Melvin could do much better. With Jimmy in there, this game is a different story.
you can run zone without being 10-15 yds off your man. He made zero adjustments in the 2nd half. Yes, I understand he went press man a few times and I know we gave up one TD that way and if memory serves, possibly another. I get that part of it. I don't get sending Suggs/Doom off the edges rushing Brady once they committed totally to the dink & dunk and the ball was out in 2 seconds. Drop one into coverage. Do something. He did nothing. He made no attempt to change anything. If he had...
Doom and Suggs don't exactly make their money in coverage. I firmly believe trying to change something to much could have backfired from the unfamiliarity of it. It's not like Pees is Cam cameron. Pees did a great job with waht he was given. With that secondary, we were still top 10 in red zone defense and 11th in overall.
So which player is taking Ngata's place on the ticket?
i would like harbs on it honestly, he deserves it, that man is without a question one of the best HC's in the league and is in the argument for the face of the franchise
I truly... (and not in a "drink purple koolaid" kind of way) believe that Harbs can get us to 4 championships as a franchise. He's getting two more rings, guaranteed!
lol It's all good. Who replaces him on the field is a relevant question too!
Ravens & Rice settle money dispute - our ties to Rice are officially cut now
yeah figure that as well. Don't think the settlement has anything to do with his cap hit.
we guaranteed him a certain amount of money, a guarantee is a guarantee, and those guarantees werent on the cap hits previously, so they have to count against us at some point. i see no possible way that we avoid the 9m cap hit
He's out for sure. The money will be a hard pinch. I hope he plays in the National Conference I could see him in SF.
Trying to get into this World Cup thing but you lose & advance? Um...huh. lol Anyway - good luck USA vs Belgium!
Wish we'd spend more time down near their goal. Ugh.
Game of a lifetime for Tim Howard, kept it winnable to the end. At least they went down with a fight!
heard something about the first goal scored on Belgium. Kind of saw it coming when we spent nearly the entire game in front of our own goal lol