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  1. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    Put the Kool-Aid down! Serioudly, you've overdosed. Get a grip. I don't want to ruin your little fantasy world but, you know, we've had bad drafts before after the dust settles. More than once. In fact, we've had losing seasons. More than once. Who do you think drafted those players? Who made those teams? The same man doing it now. Key word here being "man". He makes mistakes. He has bad drafts. And after every one of those bad drafts were people like you - this is going to be our best draft ever! And..they weren't. It happens. And, I have news. Not everyone so blindly falls in line - just because. Some actually have thoughts, brains and opinions all on their own. Shocking I know. Even more shocking - sometimes, after the dust settles, those outlier opinions turn out to have merit. Hey go figure! Why do you think people are salty? If they didn't give a crap about this team - then they wouldn't be salty would they? This board is beginning to remind me of 1984. The book, not the year. Fall in line or be eliminated! Egad.

  2. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    I don't think it is so much pigeonholing him as a blocking TE as much as people feel he was picked for his blocking abilities. Since that isn't really a strength of either Daniels or Pitta. Doesn't mean he can't catch. Most everything I read on him says otherwise. My biggest thing with him is that his weaknesses are listed as route running & gaining separation. We have a stable full of WRs with those issues already.

  3. Torrey Smith / Andre Johnson Value?

    ravensdfan replied to edreedfromtheu's topic in Ravens Talk

    And we'll all be like "pay the man" and then complain about his contract stopping us from signing guys the next season I'm all for that though!!! Bring on the backfire!

  4. Torrey Smith / Andre Johnson Value?

    ravensdfan replied to edreedfromtheu's topic in Ravens Talk

    I'm not giving up Torrey for him. At our current pattern we're only taking a WR above round 6 every 8 years or so and I don't think Andre Johnson or Steve Smith is going to be producing (or even playing) into their 40's. Torrey might be a solid #2 but at least he's only 25.

  5. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    And this is how you do optimistically cautious. Not the pom pom crowd. I can agree with most everything you've said here. I was big on the S. Smith signing - you can check the thread out from the day we did that one. I wouldn't have been quite so happy about it if I knew it meant we were going to ignore any long term answer at WR though. My biggest concern isn't even production to be honest. It is that unforseen injury - do we really want to be relying on Crockett Gilmore if Pitta or Daniels goes down? That sort of thing. We currently have no depth at TE or O line and what the depth we have at WR is pretty much late round or UDFA unknowns. Optimism is great - and I hope our offense kicks up some dust this season - but that doesn't mean I don't think going all in on defense with the high picks was the rigth strategy for the long term health of this team.

  6. Torrey Smith / Andre Johnson Value?

    ravensdfan replied to edreedfromtheu's topic in Ravens Talk

    But...it's the only one actually in Ravens Talk lol

  7. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    And if we don't win it all? Hey I'm happy to be wrong. I'd like nothing better. And it isn't positivity is homerism, it's that you are over the top with it refusing to realisitically look at what we brought in for the offense. That makes it homerism. There is a positive outlook on reality and then there is fantasyland. You've done nothing but say how much we helped the offense this off season and even counted coaches like they were players. Ignoring the reality of what we added. I love how reality is now negativity though lol Can you dispute anything there about our offense? No. It is just the reality. I do believe I even said if they come back to form we'll be all good. Only that acting like we've done this awesome job of upgrading the offense is a fantasy relying on a pretty big "if".

  8. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    You really have to put down the purple shades for a moment and look at what we've realistically got on offense. An aging vet coming off his worst year ever. An aging TE coming off injury who failed his medical. Pitta coming off a serious hip injury. A solid #2 WR in Torrey. An UDFA that surprised last season. A solid #3 WR in Jacoby. A 7th round WR (99% of the time - a project) A vet center also coming off his worst graded season and is only average prior to that, KO coming off a back injury, Wagner who was less than impressive at RT, Monroe (yay!). About the only thing we can safely assume is a definite upgrade is Kubiak. Sure if everyone comes back from injury back to their old selves - we're good. That is a pretty big "if" though.

  9. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    And no one gets hurt because we have no depth. Beyond concerned. I don't see that we've addressed that issue.

  10. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    ...and with the #19, #17 and #7 ranked offense. Rodgers had the # 8 ranked offense. What do you know. Just for comparison: Last year our offense ranked #29. Our defense ranked #12. We missed the playoffs. In 2012, our defense ranked # 15, and our offense ranked #16. Gee what do you know. Balance.

  11. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    Really. Like I said - there is an entire thread on Torrey.

  12. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    I agree you need a good defense. I never said otherwise. Just that most times the draft is deep defensively. We still passed on some good defensive players that would have filled our needs on defense. We just used our two highest picks for positions we used our high picks for last season. Somewhere are two wasted picks because you don't count a high pick sucessful if it is just used for depth. That is what the later rounds are for. A deep offensive draft is rare and unless we're picking somewhere in the top 10 or 20 - we're not going to get that high potential WR any time soon. Flacco is heading into his 7th year. We just paid him $120M. When are we planning on surrounding him with some young quality talent? Torrey is good but not 2nd round talent yet. Daniels & S. Smith could be good but one we have no idea if he'll recover from injury and the other is coming off his worst season ever - not to mention it is rare for a QB to have instant chemistry with a receiver. They're also at the tail end of their careers. And we haven't even touched on our RB situation yet. I love a good defense - I want us to get that swagger back. Teams to fear us. I'm just not willing to have a completely inept offense in order to make that happen because we won't go far in the post season that way.

  13. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    Their offenses might not have been high powered - as with Eli - but they were not completely inept either. Let's not act like any of those offenses were anywhere near as poor as ours last season. And it's funny how when it is an offensive team - you're like excusing it. Talk about not getting it both ways.

  14. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    I never said they weren't much better than the offense. Clearly they were better than the offense. I said their inability to get off the field cost us games, which it did. We did not get a CB. We did not get a playmaking FS. Two weak areas on defense going into the draft. Instead, we re-drafted 2 positions we drafted last season. We got an FS, but he is not the playmaker Ozzie talked about and promised to add. So no, while we drafted defense, even there we didn't really fill needs. We might be better at stopping the run if one or two of these guys are immediate impact players. We really did nothing to help us against the pass. Like I said, they need to play at least Top 10 - across the board - to warrant the high picks they've taken the last 2 seasons.

  15. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    No we don't have the same offense we won a SB with. There is no Boldin. I know S. Smith is supposed to be that guy - but he hasn't taken a snap for us and is coming off his worst year ever. Not to mention, Flacco & Boldin didn't have that chemistry right off the bat. There is no Birk. And Zuttah, while an upgrade to Gino, is no Birk. KO is coming off a back injury. Daniels was cut because he failed a medical., Pitta seemed to be back to his old self pretty much - so there is that at least. And the last time Wagner played RT he was pitiful. It is not the same offense. I didn't say it was lack of talent around the QB in '06. It was exactly what you said - an aging QB who hit his last legs - but it is always something with the offense. Then it was the QB. Now it the refusal to spend high picks on offense. Like I said, all these things may come to pass. I just know the defense better play lights out. Everyone keeps missing the bigger picture here even though I keep mentioning it. When do we expect to get this talent on offense? We just had the deepest draft for offensive talent in years. Do we expect to be picking in the Top 10 in the near future? Or even in the Top 20 again? When exactly are we going to see a deep draft like this again having passed up this opportunity?

  16. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    Well I guess the upside is - Marlon should get to keep his spot in the rotation. With S.Smith here he'll lose some playing time but he should still get a lot. We can only hope that these unproven players everyone is relying on for the O line pan out. It all starts there.

  17. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    I got my email this morning. Didn't you get yours? There have been losing seasons as well. Did someone else draft those years? Mistakes happen. We all make them. Some are more avoidable than others.

  18. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    I'm really just coming into my own opinion that they are kind of scared of using high draft picks on offense. They just don't seem to be as successful overall as they are on defense. They had Rice & Flacco. Took Torrey in the 2nd and while he's been good, has not really hit expected potential. They had Oher - didn't hit expected potential. Clayton - smh. Pitta wasn't selected until the 4th round. Dickson came before him and well, that didn't work out. Boller. ugh. Hmm...perhaps they're a bit gun shy. Just speculating here.

  19. Perhaps we need some articles with historical content when I see someone suggest #19 as a jersey number for a rookie. Then someone else say they don't see why not. And 5 up votes. Depressing.

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  20. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    Some people are resistant to new tech. Or just cheap.

  21. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    Sheesh - you couldn't do a restructure and then break your fax machine?

  22. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    We let Ray Lewis test FA for less. Lucky for us he came home.

  23. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    To be fair - the actual 4th quarter meltdowns were not every game either. It just seemed that way at the time. Believe me I thought it was every game. Then when I went to do the TOP stats - and looked at scoring and such - it was more like 6 games total. Two of those we wound up winning.

  24. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    Exactly! Because the Oz that does not make draft pick mistakes for some reason overpaid Flacco. it is illogical.

  25. The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

    ravensdfan replied to Moderator 2's topic in Ravens Talk

    Somewhere are all the TOP stats for our losses. I posted them to prove this theory incorrect. In all of our losses, save one, TOP was pretty evenly split right up until our defense allowed a final scoring drive. The one game it heavily favored our opponent was the Steelers' game where the defense forced one punt on the Steelers opening drive, had an INT the next drive and then never stopped them again the entire game.