So what can we do in replacing Caldwell if everyone else is up for a HC job? You basically just told me that we can't replace him, so he has to stay, which is true to a certain extent. That's different from choosing him over any other prime candidate. When we replaced Cam in the middle of the season, we had to hire from within. We couldn't bring in someone from outside the organization for him to instill his system with three games left in the season. In hindsight, we picked the right guy because the first thing we did after we promoted Caldwell was win a SB. I wouldn't trade that run for anything. I first read numerous sources that said Montgomery was just not coming back. They didn't say he was being fired or he was going elsewhere, but now I see that he is going elsewhere. Just to clarify. Then I guess by your logic, we can't hold Jacobys bad route running against Hostler because he was in Houston before coming here. But take a guy like Marlon. First, he was only a rookie who had a serious injury in college before that. So he hasn't had much time to develop NFL route running yet. Secondly, even if he isn't a great route runner or never becomes one, he's still a threat in the redzone, and he still had 7 TDs last season. I'll take that production from an UDFA rookie any day. I guess you missed the part where I said all of these issues in terms of play calling are fixable without having to fire the guy right away. Don't tell me they aren't. We didn't have these issues when Caldwell was calling plays for our SB run. And as far as "not even attempting to scheme our way" out of running game issues, yes we did. How many times did we go 3 or 4 wide to try and throw our way out of stacked boxes? We just weren't able to for the most part. Just because plays didn't work, doesn't automatically mean they weren't creative. They look bad when the don't work, and they look masterful when the do. What do you mean "they aren't the same guys?" Hostler - 2008. We had a way better passing game in 2009, 2010 and 2012. 2011 was arguably better also. Caldwell - 2012. So who was the coordinator for our SB run, plus the Giants game at the end of the regular season? Castillo - 2013. Doesn't count. I already said "minus Castillo." Moeller - 2008. We had a damn good O line in 2008, and we were on our way to having one in 2009 before Gaither went down. The O line was average in 10 and 11 from my perspective, but noticeably better then than in 2013. You just proved my point. And as far as Hostler not developing receivers, I'm sure you can say that about 90% of wide receiver coaches in the NFL. You really think if we traded WR coaches with the Patriots, Marlon and Torrey would wake up tomorrow morning having perfected the route tree? This is a PLAYERS league far more than it is a coaches league. Players are paid to produce. So that's all on Castillo? It had nothing to do with the players they had?