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Anybody catch what Suggs said at the beginning of the presser? I vividly remember him saying " he's a [profanity] quarterback!. " what's that about?

Welp 95% of ravens nation is pissed right now.

On top of this, VH3 is a technician, and Morris is a certifiable moron.

http://first-pick.com/NFL/DraftGame.aspx I tend to enjoy this one a bit more.

Not really understanding the want or need for Weddle. We have Webb at FS and we are paying him good money, and none of us are sure as to how good he will be. That could be bad, or good. But I'd rather not invest in an aging guy we don't really have a substantial need for.

With all the good seasons in recent years, I think one tanked season isn't that big of a deal. The way some of you guys are talking it's as if this is the 3rd season of abysmal play.. Relax.

Yikes. On that last punt if you rewind midfield Raven player tried bodyslamming a guy and it went uncalled. I think streetball is fair to say at this point.

How do you miss that call? You'd have to purposely not be paying attention to miss that..come on.

Yeah Forsetts wrist looked nasty, unnatural angle when he was on the ground. Dirty play, has him stopped, slam was unnecessary,very Suh like.. Should be a good fine.

Since the trend in the slow off-season is usually rating the best players, such as the Top 100 and best ravens players of all time, I thought it would be neat to do the opposite, the Ravens All-Time WORST players. The idea here is to put together a 53 man roster of clunkers, busts, has-beens and never have-beens. I'm going to start with just a few players, and as we accrue more posts hopefully we can all collaborate to a complete 53-man Stinker roster. Tony Banks Frank Walker Yamon Figurs Kyle Boller Sergio Kindle

I think at this point that the best thing for Arthur Brown is to be traded away to a team that runs a 4-3 strictly. That's what he is, a 43 linebacker. The way I would go about it is to trade him away for another Safety / Cornerback. I believe half to a little over half of NFL teams are 43 based, it would just depend on which team is stacked enough at the Secondary position and weak enough at the LB position to do a little switcheroo. Kansas comes to mind but they are a 34.

I seriously think all these injuries stem from HYDRATION issues. I didn't see many guys drinking and when I did it was a squirt and spit. I did however see alot of cramps happening.

I'll add that Brown is in serious risk of being cut from what I seen. I was a huge fan of his when we drafted him, but after seeing in person what he has to offer... He can't play special teams, and just looks really unconfident and mentally slow in the LB spot. He has the physical tools, it just doesn't seem like he has an " NFL mind ".

Never been a huge fan of Reid, but he also put together a good practice on Sat. He has Oher syndrome, average to below tackle, but would probably make an excellent guard.

To add to this, Juice looked awesome in practice Sat. Very happy that we have him on the team. He adds another dimension to the offense.

Tbh, I didn't see too much of Renner during my time at camp. I can say that Schaub looks really, really bad. He won't be cut because of his contract and experience, but at this point you can't get much worse than what I seen from Schaub. I'm honestly confused as to how a pro powler regressed so much. Just in all things in being a quarterback. I remember vividly Saturday that Schaub took the snap and immediately felt pressure and instead of using his footwork.. he like.. one-leg hopped forward into the pocket his back foot never came down and he threw the football with an extremely high baseball pitch release to his outlet receiver which may have been 5 yards out and the ball nosed first into the ground. You can take that how you will, but that was an extreme face-palm moment for me.

I was at Camp Saturday, so I'll throw in some observations on things I noticed. 1. These injuries are freak injuries. Unless the practice was toned down for the Saturday fans [ I don't believe that to be the case. ] these guys are getting plenty of rest between drills. I will add that the lack of hydration I seen was a little disturbing, seemed like nobody was hydrating and there was alot of cramps going on that I haven't seen reported [ Could be a case for these tears? ] 2. Terrell Suggs is still fast. He came into camp overweight but he looks good now and quick, his spin move was pretty nasty to watch coming from a big man. 3. Butler catches EVERYTHING and he seems very natural and at ease with it. His routes looked really good. 4. C.J. Mosley and Daryl Smith make a great duo, they both were all over the field and I believe both came away with picks. 5. Matt Schaub is ATROCIOUS. I fully believe that the only reason we picked him up was to use his brain because of his familiarity with the system. I'll say with confidence, I would rather have Tyrod Taylor backing up Flacco. Overthrows. Underthrows. Bad mechanics. Bad reads. No consistency with Schaub. 6. Justin Forsett looks young. He moves like a young man, and his patience and quick step to acceleration is quite the thing to see. I'm very comfortable with him starting, and him catching. 7. Buck Allen and Tali look great. Buck looks alot better blocking. Tali looks like a machine, he's punishing and a big man. 8. Will Hill was very impressive. Didn't seem to miss a beat and was always around the ball. I believe he was also the only one not to get yelled at during ST drills. 9. The punter brought in to give Koch competition isn't relevant. No worries. 10. Crockett Gilmore looks like a star in the making. Great hands. Deceptive speed for a man his size. Clean routes. Catches in traffic. 11. Camp looks GREAT. Crisp routes. Shifty. Good hands. No missteps in ST drills as far as returning. 12. Arthur Brown did put some weight on, mostly in the legs. Looked a little lost during drills as far as LBing. He IS NOT a special teamer, looked pretty bad in ST drills. He looks the part, but doesn't seem like he's grasping the speed of the game mentally. 13. Darren Waller needs ALOT of work. Physical specimen, but slow off the snap. Looks slow running, but the man eats up field with his long strides. Issues tracking the ball, kept his hands/arms very wide when attempting to catch backside shoulders and bombs. 14. Justin Tucker and Koch are the Highschool goons. Those guys seemed like they were having a ton of fun throughout practice and drills. JT nailed his kicks. Looked good showing off his soccer - esque footwork. He can catch, really well. Showing off his one handed grabs and behind the back catches. All in good fun. 15. Flacco looked sharp. Patient. Smooth. Great mechanics. If JT were to go down, don't count on Flacco making any kicks, after practice he was messing around and was attempting field goals.. missed all of them..but surprisingly made all of his drop kicks [ lol ]. 16. Kyle Arrington looked sharp, inside and outside. 17. Rashean Melvin gave up a good bit. Looked frustrated with himself and the overall quality of his practice. 18. Chris Canty is extremely vocal to the younger guys, acted part player part coach. 19. Nelson / Steelman look like strictly camp bodies. Nothing too exciting or spectacular. 20. Carter had a few nice grabs. Seemed very reminiscent to Camp. 21. Nick Perry quietly had a quality day. If anyone has anyone specific in mind that I didn't cover, or would like a little more detail on, let me know and I'll do my best to fill you in.

I'm extremely thankful for Boller, if we didn't get boller, we wouldn't of picked Flacco in the long run. Butterfly Effect.

I'm not as extreme as you in your opinions, but I will say that any situation where you have to teach a 1st rounder to do his MAIN job [ WR catching, OL blocking etc ], which would be tackling is a problem. I have high hopes for the guy, but it's always a red flag when you have to teach the guy the basics.

Nope, said it exactly how I wanted. We are seeing the same guy. Obviously we view it differently, but I respect your opinion.

Definitely turned a mouse hole into a Mountain here, but I'll humor you. The times I've seen Deonte play, he always looked natural catching the ball to me, especially in comparison to Torrey Smith, he went over the middle, he looked better tracking the ball. He was on pace to break out before his foot injury and legal troubles. I don't feel Deonte Thompson was a case of not being skilled, just more so a case of bad luck and circumstance. And why he hasn't started on other teams? I couldn't tell you, I don't know the situations within those teams, Deontes mindset or physical condition. All I know is that while he was here, he did impress more than me and mightve started, if not not for injury or legal issues. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Deonte-Thompson-Motivated-To-Deliver-On-Promise/fd609051-d087-4d26-915d-74ecb90243f3

Confidence maybe? Idk, I'm not an NFL scout or work in an NFL office, and I'd be willing to bet you are not either. I just remember him looking pretty dynamic when he did have chances. But besides that, do you have anything to contribute?

ahhh Deonte Thompson is a sore spot for me. I loved the guy and think if he wasn't buried and given the opportunity to play he would of been a good receiver for us.

I agree with those who said list guys with significant snaps, should of clarified that in the initial post. I think my biggest has to be Frank Walker, I love the guy for being a try-hard, but dang that guy sucked at the NFL level, idk how he got the chances that he did. Tandon Doss is another guy, if he worked half as hard as he did with his weird punt catching as a receiver he might of lived up to a decent potential.

If yall are gonna shame my posts, at least contribute by adding who you think are the worst. Lol