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2 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

Probably because he's one of the few players left that was on all of those teams?   And he constantly gets slammed by "fans"?    smh

And you're exactly right.......Evans didn't drop that TD, he just failed to make a fundamental football catch that every receiver is taught to do even in Pop Warner leagues. Moore would never had touched the ball if Lee had caught the ball with his hands and tucked it away rather than letting it come to his body.  

When's the last time you looked at that play?  Lee Evans is spinning around and back peddling with defender barely a foot away, Flacco put it in a tight window. 

He couldn't attempt an all hands catch there, that would have made it even easier for S.Moore. 

Now instead of try to land both feet he should have just cradled the ball and fell to the ground.. I remember Chris Carter saying if he had just fell then one knee is as good as 2 feet and the defender can't make a play for the ball. 

Regardless Evans should have hung on to it even with Moore in there.  But Moore did get his arm in there for the breakup.  

Lee Evans "drop" wasn't  like TJ Housh. drop vs the Steelers in playoffs when the ball hit him directly in the hands and the defender W.Gay was beat. 

2 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

it's more of an antithesis to the mind-numbing flacco hate in the flacco talk thread than it is an actual comment on the title

Wow it's that bad huh. Haven't visited any of those in weeks..  

just got tired of reading "cut him, trade him" when these people don't understand salary cap lol

Why does this say Joe Flacco instead of The Ravens lol. 

When I talk to people about football or my favorite team, I don't say Joe Flacco came so close this year and that year. I say the Ravens were so close. 

Like a week ago I was saying it's funny the Steelers in playoffs because we couldn't get one stop basically. Then I went on a tangent about how in 2008 S.Holmes catch was ruled a TD even though the ball never crossed the end zone line, that gave them the division and playoff home field. I felt if it went our way things would have been different. 

2011 - People still don't give Sterling Moore an ounce of credit for getting his arm in there and slapping the ball out smh.  Lee Evans didn't just drop it.  

I generally think of Cundiff blowing a short routine FG. 

Wow great job by Ravens staff. Orr said if they wouldn't have decided to give him a CAT scan also then it would have went undetected still because his condition wasn't noticed in physicals or MRIs. 

1 minute ago, berad said:

Got dinged in the shoulder/neck area during the Eagles and Steelers game, further testing and an MRI discovered it.

Thanks for the reply. 

Wow congenital neck/spine condition that's unfortunate for Zach Orr.  After a breakout season too. 

I missed most him speaking at the presser. 

Im just in shock because when or how did this come about. 

Where did this come from? I just got this notification about Orr and I'm trying to remember when was he injured!  

Wow. 

On 1/17/2017 at 10:07 PM, ravefan52 said:

So many CB's to study, so many to like. At least one is very likely to be BPA early. Right now my top guys are 

1 Sidney Jones

2 Lattimore

3 Wilson

4 Tankersly

5 White

I also seem to like Jackson, J Lewis and Elder more than most. People have pretty mixed opinions on Adoree as a CB, but his return skills alone are going to make him a steal. He will change so many games because of it.

I'm huge on Corn Elder, not sure where he's currently projected but I think he will be a steal for some team. 

Just the development Elder made in the last two seasons since he switched to CB from RB has been huge.  He's been strong in press coverage too and he's a solid tackler. 

Reminded me of how Sam Shields switched from WR to CB at Miami then got with GB and flourished. 

On 1/17/2017 at 2:34 PM, RavensDieHard21 said:

Perhaps corner doesn't work out early, I think there will still be a lot of value picks we could get at corner in the third or a trade up back into the second. I think Kevin King from Washington is one as well as Conley wil likely be in the second as well. 

I was thinking this way last year, and even though we hit on T.Young, during the draft I was annoyed that so many guys got past us even in the third round. 

Like when I saw M.Alexander & K.Fuller falling deep in the second round I was hoping they could fall to us at the top of third or maybe trade up a few spots for either. 

On 5/2/2016 at 7:37 AM, flynismo said:

I wonder...say we took Jack, and he goes on to play one or two seasons for us and retires. Would all these people bashing Oz for not taking a chance on Jack be the same people who bash Oz for being so stupid to spend such an early pick on a guy with such obvious red flags?

Thats probably the easiest thing to answer based on this season and some of these "fans" constantly bashing Perriman.   Those are the same people that would be screaming about Myles Jack from mountain tops had he been picked and suffered any type of setback.

* every time I would ask those "fans" what were their realistic expectations statistically of Perriman in what was basically his rookie year and he still hasn't had a training camp practice! Then the crickets start chirping lol. 

On 4/30/2016 at 9:21 AM, ALPHA said:

Smith's leg will get better, Jack's leg will get worse. Every team has been burned by injury busts so you can't blame them for being hesitant.

Although I believe Smith's leg will be fine based off Sean Spence recovering from similar injury multiple ligaments and nerve damage. It's the nerve damage that makes Jaylon's Smith worse. 

Myles Jack candor let teams to think he would immediately need microfracture surgery but that has since been dismissed. https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2016/4/29/11540586/myles-jack-knee-injury-nfl-draft-surgery?client=safari

He may still have an injury in the future but that can be said for anyone, problem is if Jack goes down people will scream "told you so". 

On 4/30/2016 at 0:04 AM, sflegend89 said:

 I'm usually a massive Ozzie/Eric supporter, I'm usually defending them during the draft. Tonight they have done something so incredibly inept for our football team I don't know if I will sleep tonight.

It's this simple, the reward out weighed the risk. It's not like we passed on Jack and got a super polished pro-ready player with no significant risk. Correa has upside but he's a risk himself, he's pretty boom or bust. How do you pass on a top 5 talent risk for a 2nd round caliber risk? We opted for getting a base hit over trying to knock it out of the park. In the 2nd round that's not acceptable. When you get a chance to hit it out of the park in the 2nd round you take it, if you strike out so be it, it was worth it.

Look, Jack could play 1 season and retire, it was still the wrong decision. Because you know what else could happen? He could persevere and be the best ILB in football for 5-8 years. That my friends is called risk-reward and in the 2nd round you accept those two realities with a smile on your face. I envy Dallas and Jacksonville for sharing that mentality with me, they could be totally wrong and neither Jaylon or Myles Jack ever pan out because of their knee's.. but you know what? It was worth the risk. 

I wanted Myles Jack badly at that pick, and I read an article that doctors no longer fear he will have a degenerative knee but the Jags still slowly put him into the defense.  

We basically played Correa as if he was the one with massive  injury concerns. 

With that said all together trading out the pick with the Jags, led to a second trade with dolphins and got the team :

Pick #42 K.Correa (from Miami ), #107 (from Miami ) C.Moore, #146 (from Jags) M.Judon  

Judon seems like he will become a contributor to the defense going forward, C.Moore actually made a contribution with his special teams play, limited WR target, Correa tbd. 

Honestly the second trade is more questionable for me because either CB X.Howard picked 38th (by Miami) or DE/OLB Noah Spence picked 39th (By Tampa) would have been good additions to the defense. 

On 1/15/2017 at 8:14 AM, BmoreBird22 said:

VT alum here, so I watch tons of games... well, every game, but he's not one that really stands out as a really great draft prospect, but he means so much to the Virginia Tech defense because he's just smart and plays sound football. He isn't gonna go out there and make these mind blowing plays, but he's not going to give them up, either.

He's not one I ever really felt was a legit draftable player, so I never paid more attention, but he's a really solid college player.

Completely unrelated but since you mentioned being a VT alum. 

I really like that sophomore LB Tremaine Edmunds 6'5" 236 that kid flies around the field and he's really physical.  I'm a Hurricanes fan and the way Tr.Edmunds impacted that game this year reminded me of how Jalen Ramsey kind of made a few plays to fuel FSU over Miami his sophomore year. 

If that dude doesn't get mocked highly next year I'd be shocked 

CB is deep this year, it's crazy as the college season went on Desmond King and T.White seemed to disappear on mock drafts.

Teez (Jalon)Tabor is a solid first rounder, so is Quincy Wilson the player opposite him. 

I really like Sidney Jones from Washington, very good man coverage skills. 

If we don't get a corner in the first or second round this year, then they don't want to improve talent or depth at the position. 

First I gotta say I'm not a fan of Pees mostly because every year we've seen this team lose games by blowing 4th quarter leads.   

The defense did improve a lot  statistically this season, and I was happy to see more turnovers as well, but a Top 10 defense should be able to make some of those critical game winning stops. 

Pass rush wise, we just need guys that occasionally beat their man one-on-one, its good to see different blitzes but ultimately guys have to win some battles in the trenches.  Early in the season Jernigan was killing it, getting QB hits, pressures and sacks and didn't see as much from him down the stretch as far as impact plays.  Suggs was playing with one arm all year and still was the most effective pass rusher, still getting double teams ( which only strengthens the argument that the other guys opposite of him need to win their battle occasionally. ) 

Dumervil obviously was never himself this season with the injury and explosiveness. 

Judon- shows potential, but he wasn't played enough early on during the season. 

Z.Smith - I don't know if he lacks the power to beat blocks or if it's all poor technique but he seemed to regress. 

It still irritates me that McClellan got so much PT defensively and Correa a 2nd round pick barely saw the field. If McClellan was an edge setting like JJ or Upshaw I could understand. 

On 1/5/2017 at 11:00 PM, callahan09 said:

Not sure what the reason is for saying goodbye to OL coaches. I actually feel good about our OL coaching, I just don't like the play designs and play calls, and most of the OL problems lay at the feet of the injury bug and the front office, not the coaching. When healthy, the OL has played decently, but could be improved in my opinion with better play designs & play calling.

The strength & conditioning coach being let go is very interesting and immediately rings a bell in my mind that maybe they think it's a strength & conditioning PROBLEM as far as why we have so many injuries on this team.

Fascinating.

When I read that I found it interesting because I remember in the offseason they altered the Strength & Conditioning program and had several articles about injury prevention involving Campanaro and Jimmy Smith.  

http://m.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Altered-Training-Program-To-Prevent-Injuries/ea8aac83-de75-4fc3-8e0d-cbbf684ff195

now this is April 19th, 2016 says newly hired Director of Performance and Recovery Steve Saunders.

But the person just fired Director of Strength & Conditioning Rob Rogucki

So maybe the writing was on the wall for this move already I'm not sure. 

On 1/5/2017 at 3:35 PM, merryjman said:

I agree with you about Kubiak's impact. I pointed out in another thread that he took a mediocre-at-best running back in Forsett and made him a pro bowler. No denying it, he's done that several times.

I'm simply saying it's not fair to blame Castillo when every year a new OC comes in and changes schemes again, then 2-4 starters leave or get hurt. Just saying there is a lag there between when a new line practices together and when it starts to click in games.

If Flacco gets pressured a lot again next year, and (assuming we run the ball at all) the rush game is again nonexistent, I will happily go back to hating Castillo again

(Caldwell was running Cameron's playbook during the SB run because it was so late, that's why I called him "basically new.")

Fair enough. 

I read somewhere, (can't remember where exactlymay have been Adam Schefter's Facebook or Ravens Facebook) that the Ravens set a franchise low for rushing attempts this year.    

Earlier in the season I complained about not establishing the run game early in games, especially when Flacco was still trying to get his confidence in his knee and shaky oline too.  Anytime an olineman is interviewed whether it be NFL films, mic'ed up, or ex-players they talk about how much they love to run it down a defenses throats and control the line of scrimmage. They talk about how driving someone off the ball just gets them pumped while demoralizing a defense. 

Starting 2 rookies Stanley and Lewis let's throw it 40+ and really test these kids. Injuries missing two or three linemen who cares toss that rock until Flacco can't stand up anymore. 

Even when everyone could see Flacco was uncomfortable in the pocket not trusting those guys tossing it off his back foot seemingly every play, they still weren't running it to help things out. 

1 hour ago, merryjman said:

I get what you're saying, but don't you think the bad performance in 2013 could also have been at least partly due to new pieces in the line (Birk, McKinnie, Oher all left), a basically new OC (Caldwell) and - the fact people always miss - Ray Rice having a pretty bad season? If you blame Castillo instead, and then give Kubiak all the credit in 2014, that seems kind of unfair.

Seems more fair to say that the zone run scheme takes a while to get good at, and in Kubiak's year it fell into place, and then Trestman basically abandoned it so the O line and Castillo had to start over. And now they'll start over again with Mornhinweg :/

So we gonna qualify Caldwell as the new OC although it was his playcalling through the Super Bowl run. 

Birk Retired, McKinnie only played half the season with passion anyway and Oher had 1 more year as a raven 2013 before he left for the Titans.

2014 Kubiak's year was when Oher was gone. And the team ran for a total of 2019 yds vs the other 3 years with Castillo minus kubiak 1328, 1478, and 1463 ( this year )  and I'm willing to give a bit of pass this year with the new cut block rules. 

Its undeniable the impact kubiak had on this team's rushing attack and oline. James Hurst actually looked serviceable in the 5 games he started as Rookie undrafted FA in 2014 and he's never looked anything close to that since lol

1 hour ago, merryjman said:

I will admit that I used to be a Castillo hater, especially in the year after the SB when we kept running #27 from the shotgun in the oh-so-predictable draw plays.

But if you're being honest, you have to admit that our offensive line has been pretty darn good, considering (a) all the injuries that have plagued them the last two seasons, and (b) the constant need to learn new blocking schemes with each new coordinator. The offensive line has to function as one body, with all five of them on the same page and being able to rely on each other. If a key piece is hurt (Wagner, Stanley, Yanda, Lewis - seriously, 4 out of 5 starters this year!) or if they have to learn a new scheme, their play will suffer!

Think about how great they played the last time we won a SB, where even McKinnie played well because the coaches benched him for several games to rest him up. Joe threw 11 touchdowns and zero interceptions, and nobody even got close to sacking him most of the time. It wasn't that Joe played better, it was the O line.

So I no longer blame Castillo, and don't think he should be fired.

 Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but since you mentioned the 2012 SB run let's recall Juan Castillo was not apart of that he was Eagles DC then.   

*he became the Run game coordinator in 2013 and it was widely reported he was running the show as oline coach from behind the scenes. 

Regardless as the Run game coordinator the team regressed significantly in Rushing in 2013. 

2014 - was all kubiak

2015-2016. Back to back abysmal rushing attacks  ( some could be attributed to play calling )

I'll give him credit for developing Wagner and having a hand in KO's.   

* 

How is it when Castillo was the oline assistant and they underperformed he got promoted? And now the unit struggles and Castillo keeps his job while his assistant is the scapegoat!

Ridiculous run game struggled with this guy 3 out 4 years the one exception being when Kubiak actually coached it all!

How many more years of Pees defense giving up 4th quarter leads before there's some pressure on him or will he have to decide to go coach in college like Mattison for us to move forward. 

18 hours ago, whobilly said:

A 6 million dollar contract will be the end of Doom. What has Kamalei Correa done other then be invisible? Kafusi a BIG question. And what happened to that dynamic burner #1 pick Breshad Perriman? I could live with his very average numbers if he was a 5th round pick NOT a #1 pick.

Again relating to B.Perriman please tell me what your expectations were for him statistically considering this man never even had a training camp to prepare for an NFL season...  

Did you really expect a man that has barely had practice time to walk onto an NFL field and catch 80 balls for 1300 yds? 

Perriman actually put up better numbers than Funchess, S.Coates, N.Agholor, Green-Beckham from his draft class and others from this current draft class and perriman wasn't even getting snaps the first couple of weeks.  

12 hours ago, BallsoHard622 said:

I wish we would've paid KO to be our left tackle. He proved that he could play the position. If we did that we could've dropped back from the number six pick in the draft to the 8 or 9 spot an snatched up Eli apple an a second round pick. That would made a big difference this season.

When did KO prove he could be a LT? He played what 3 or 4 games at the position during a meaningless stretch of a 5-11 season.  He got paid LT money but he's still a LG even in Oakland.  

Now I've got nothing against Eli Apple I liked him as a prospect last year but when the Giant drafted him that high it was a bit of a reach since he was thought to be a mid to late 1st round prospect.  If your scenario plays out and KO was the future LT then I would have expected a more aggressive attempt to get Ramsey as the pick rather than trading back. 

5 hours ago, R@venFan808 said:

I think when doom Suggs Kamalei and Kafusi heal up and team up with matt judon our pass rush will be just fine. I don't see a CB worth a no.16 draft pick so well probably sign some one in FA. I really see us getting either  dynamic RB like Cook or a monster prospect WR like corey davis. Im so excited to take a RB or WR in the first round. We need to get some flacco some weapons. 

You don't see any CB worth pick 16 but you see WRs?  

T.Tabor, D.King, Q.Wilson, M.Humphrey, S.Jones, A.Jackson , J.Lewis there are plenty of 1st round quality corners in this draft they may not all go in round 1 but I bet there will be more corners than WRs drafted in round 1. 

I hope all these analysts continue to hate on WR JuJu so he falls to 2nd round maybe we can get lucky and snag him there or trade up a few spots. 

Ozzie, Decosta and Harbaugh all need to do much better jobs of addessing these needs. After all, these are the same re-occurring needs for 3 straight years now. 

They said we needed to improve the secondary 2 years ago but didn't make any moves outside of Kyle Arrington, Kendrick Lewis both terrible signings and wrote a million fluff pieces about how Rashaan Melvin looked strong and would be an excellent starter opposite Jimmy after an offense of improving.  

Fast-Forward one year the narrative becomes Shareece Wright is the bookend opposite of Jimmy he's had the strongest camp of anyone has ultra confidence himself and he's poised for a breakout year. 

Webb is the answer at safety - Webb did play very well second half of the season. 

Tavon Young was a pleasant surprise, the kid play great. 

No one knows what was the deal with Correa I'm sure this guy didn't even play 10% of the defensive snaps. Even with Mosley and Dummervil both out this kid didn't see action. 

On 1/2/2017 at 6:25 PM, rmcjacket23 said:

1. Yes, and Aiken will be paid to come somewhere too. Everybody is paid to come somewhere in the NFL... that doesn't mean anything. Baltimore wasn't the only place that wanted Steve Smith, same for Boldin. They made a choice to come here and play.

2. Aiken could also go to a worse team with a less accurate QB or no QB at all. The first thing Aiken will need to do is find teams interested in having him play for them. He's not Julio Jones... he won't have 32 NFL teams beating down his door to play for them. He doesn't have those kinds of skills. So if there's 2-3 teams that want him, and those teams are the Browns, Rams and Bears, then he will either go play for one of those teams, or he won't play at all. That's how FA works when you're not a highly sought after player.

If I were a betting man, and if I were Aiken himself, I'd focus on two things:

1. Which team will pay me the most

2. Which team do I have the best opportunity to play

I seriously doubt he's in a position to say "I want to play for a winning team with a great QB". That's not really what guys in his situation are looking for out of FA.

I literally just wrote this on Facebook post for this article. I wrote Aiken's most likely suitors would be Browns, Bears, 49ers and Rams outside of them he's back to a special teamer and 4th option. 

It really surprise me how people are arguing on there as if Aiken is an All Pro. 

I envisioned Aiken, being a chain-mover on third downs having a role similar to Kelley Washington back in 09'.