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1 minute ago, rossihunter2 said:

im a masochist

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Just now, Edgar said:

That's fair. I was off base. Sorry about that.

All good. I didn't exactly help the conversation with my first post. I was a little too ready to jump on someone that I felt didn't know what they were talking about.

8 minutes ago, Edgar said:

"Stats don't matter as much as film...."

" Tim still had more sacks than Reddick..." apparently they matter more to you one post later.

I'm nowhere close to comparing them statistically. As I said, I watch and see what I see. And for the record, I like Williams. If you like Williams better, I'll assume you've done your own study and come to that conclusion , that you don't prefer Reddick to him.

You can spare the misplaced condescension in the meantime.

I brought up the stats purely for that reason, because I don't see them as being very important when comparing Tim to Reddick, or really when comparing anyone to that matter (neither do I think you see stats in that way). However, you brought up that Tim had a lack of sacks at the end of the season and that it was worrying, and I said that if we're looking at stats then Tim has more sacks than Reddick. As for the "condescension" I don't see where I came off as that. I think my original post was misinformed, and I owned up to it and tried to best explain why I assumed you were claiming something else.

13 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Yeah, I'm positive you read way too much into the post.

You see, I've actually watched these players and can form opinions ( admittedly  off the mark at times)on a player without needing to read up on what somebody else thinks.

 

 

I admit I blew your comment out of proportion. I quoted you, but mostly went off of the "drought" you mentioned. I still don't see Williams' lack of sacks at the end of the season as a problem, and I don't see it as very relevant considering Tim still had more sacks than Reddick in their college careers. I don't doubt that you judge off of film, just thought you gave numbers too much credit.

1 minute ago, SepticeyePoe said:

How is it that you spell both of their names wrong when the quote that you quoted spelled them both right? And when Jernigan's name is in the title?

I think @Moderator 3 was right, you've got to be trolling.

 

No doubt in my mind that Ray Ray's a troll. I don't care how fast you type, or even if you're completely illiterate, no one spells like Mast3r Ch13f talks on "Arby 'n' the Chief." He also manages to go against a lot of objectively correct aspects of the Raven's franchise, for instance he wants to trade Flacco, and with his amount of posts on this site it should be impossible to support something so detrimental to the team.

3 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

do you think there is a days lost stat on the personal profile somewhere? i feel like ray ray here would be close to the top... maybe just languishing behind wiz

If not I hope they're making that stat lol

11 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

So you would prefer another burner with limited catching ability, which is what most of our current WRs are already, over a complete wideout with great catch radius? 

You make more and more sense with each post

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Just now, rossihunter2 said:

and i know that williams had a sub-par game against clemson but there were still a couple of plays i remember clearly where he destroyed the tackle off the snap and bent the edge and literally slipped on his way to the qb

Plus Bama has a constant rotation. NFL talent all around and great depth=cycling players in and out constantly.

4 hours ago, Edgar said:

Reddick is special. No way I take Williams over him.....

An aside : Williams mustered two half sacks in Alabama's final five games. That sort of drought is troubling.

No corners in four rounds is inexplicable to me. 

Stats don't matter nearly as much as film, a player could perform perfectly and still not be able to make the play. In Charles Harris' last five games, he had 5.5 sacks, and Reddick only had 3. Harris and Williams played against stronger opposition too, so if we're going off of stats I guess Harris is more of a "special" guy than Reddick.

7 minutes ago, airconteka1 said:

No way d is available at our pick

I think he could; his combine numbers might make him slide.

I heard that Sidney Jones said he'll be ready to play in his rookie season. Not sure if that's a huge boost to how likely we are to take him though, I think we already factored in that he could recover for his first season, but we're not as desperate for someone that needs to be able to start instantly.

12 hours ago, ravensnj said:

McCaffery can play multiple positions, and play them at the highest level. He can play slot. outside, returner. and running back. He creates mismatches and would be a joy for any coordinator.

 

I don't think he'll be nearly as flexible once he gets put up against NFL talent. Creating mismatches on the outside? I'm not too sure about that. Slot? I think he is better off doing what Woodhead does in the passing game (another reason I don't see us taking him, we'll just use Woodhead for that), but I could definitely see that happening if he can translate well enough, but his size is an issue. I have no doubt that McCaffery has the ability to really be a great player, but I don't think he'll be BPA for us and I don't think we could really benefit from him more than other players that are more plausible.

22 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I definitely think Judon has a role here going forward, not a starter but I think he's definitely going to be a contributor. I honestly wouldn't flinch if Za'darius Smith was cut. 

I really like the potential that Judon has going forward. I see him as being a big contributor for us once he gets some more playing time.

8 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Anyone notice Jonathan Allen seems to be falling down draft boards? Or at least mock drafts out there. He's been pretty quiet as of late. Not sure there's still a chance he falls to us though......is there?

I think the reason he's been dropping is the shoulder thing, I still don't think there's any chance that makes him fall to us. If he makes it out of the top 10 I'd be very surprised

11 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

i just think that 1 playmaker can change an entire team because he moves the focus of the other coordinator - you get a gamechanging wide receiver and suddenly the defensive coordinator has to adjust and open up to your other receivers, likewise edge rushers, throwing away from number 1 corners etc. etc. - a high quality player can cover up the deficiencies of their unit by taking attention away - look at the falcons defense until they collapsed in the 2nd half of the superbowl - they had more holes than swiss cheese but the addition of keanu neal and deion jones gave them playmakers who the offense had to account for and they changed games and changed the narrative of that defense from being useless to functional - even covering up the loss of the number 1 corner on the team

i always advocate for holding onto as many picks as possible but there are times when you just have to make the pick and be done with it because of the value

It also kinda breaks down to BPA vs just purely filling holes. BPA at 16 sounds better than BPA in the 20s, but 8 picks sound better when you're trying to fill holes. But of course we'll be doing both, so it depends on which we prioritize and/or what the board looks like before we pick.

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

Yeah and don't get me wrong, mcdowell has some exciting film but two things have dropped him down my board: 1) the reports of immaturity / low iq and 2) the re-signing of Brandon Williams (I'm aware they don't play the same spot on the line before anyone shouts at me)

Yeah we won't take someone with the attitude of McDowell. I don't want a guy like that in our locker room.

24 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

malik mcdowell has some serious maturity issues and we already have potential at the defensive end position in brent urban and bronson kaufusi and just to dispel this as a potential narrative there is no way that we are looking at barnett's awards... most of us who have been salivating over barnett have been watching endless film because he's so fun to watch because he is so much more than his stats

Exactly. Pretty sure it's a given at this point that everyone sees stats as way less important than film.

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I really would love to see Webb back here, I personally think Judon needs to get the nod, he was highly effective and looked primed for a breakout(and the ZDS rookie year is apples and oranges here, one looked very good and the other got lucky on blown assignments, save it please). Webb is excellent depth and having an extra guy who plays both s and cb inside and out is huge. If anyone goes down we have a veteran and perhaps the 2nd smartest/savviest db on the team who can fill in anywhere.

I think Webb can still contribute whether or not someone goes down. We could find ways to get him in as a 3rd safety, but yeah I think if someone goes down he'll easily step up and we won't be in a bad spot. I really hope we get Webb back.

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

I don't think it was DV. He broke a restraining order from an ex. 

OK. I though I remembered hearing something that could make us not pick him up, but not too sure that takes him off our list.

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think I'd rather take the chance on Clady, but Dunlap has experience with the current OL coach, so there's that.

I think I heard that Dunlap has DV in his past am I mistaken?

9 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

that would be awesome

I agree. Seems like great guy off the field as well as on as shown in this topic.

Just now, Martin Maryland said:

If we can get good RT for good price, I think we should sign one. What other choices do we have at that spot? Could we count on  J.Hurst to be solid starter there? We could draft one, but there are not that many good ones.

We seem to have trust in Skura and Wesley I've heard, but I'm not too sure that I feel the same.

4 hours ago, cushrinada1986 said:

Saw this kid at the combine and he put up some real good numbers. A lot of teams will be looking at him to see if he can play corner(which he does have experience). Took a snapshot of his combine numbers along with Jimmys back in the day and its not bad comparison at all. Since we have Carr now he doesn't have to be ready right now. He has the size and speed to play coverage LB, SS, FS, and CB. Could also be Jimmy eventual replacement either due to retirement or injury.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000790851/Obi-Melifonwu-2017-Combine-Workout

 

I strongly suggest moving this topic to the 2017 draft discussion. Nobody's looking for posts in this thread.

Just now, Halshayeji said:

Come on Webb just come back already. No one loves or misses you like we do....

I've heard reports that we're still interested in having Webb on the team. I really hope so, he can still contribute as a 3rd safety.

47 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya I agree. It could be a stretch to have him fall that far. Maybe Taywan Taylor could be an option at that pick. I would have put Godwin there but his stock seems to be rising lately

Some people want James Conner for the 4th (I think that's when he's projected) which I only see happening if we trade back and get an extra pick.