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Just now, PuRock said:

Does it matter?  We are playing the D players on both sides of the ball.  I heard Tony Jefferson has a nice spiral.   

That legitimately made me laugh out loud. Since Stewart was just taken, I wish we could have picked him instead of wormley.

And we get Tim Williams. Like the pick, but it should have been in place of Wormley. Then go offense.

1 minute ago, JO_75 said:

Guarantee Boldin and Mangold are waiting in the wings, has to explain why nothing has been done so far at WR and Center.

I really hope you're right. 

Hopefully Nembot or Skura step up and help our problem at O-line. Not saying I think they're the next big thing, but finding a solution in one of those guys would be ideal (kinda stating the obvious here).

On 3/29/2017 at 9:07 PM, RayRayRaven said:

but theres good news joey they think joe can win multipile superbowls even yet look here

joe can win it all

he says joe can do it he got all the tools. I called and tole him that the tools joe needs he doan hav offensive line ball catchas runnin game outstandin d its 1 part to 4 I says ain't it easiest to get you one new part ratha than 4?  harb says what you m ean?

What happened to superbowels? Did we find a cure?

3 hours ago, terrynjulia03 said:

I don't see that at all. What were our major problems last year? Passing D and OL. We upgraded FS by moving Weddle, we added another top 5 safety. We upgraded the horrible Wright for Carr. If they're smart they'll draft Humphrey in the 1st and you than have the best secondary in the NFL with 4 legit starters at CB and 2 top 5 safeties. Yeah we lost Doom, who didn't do squat last year. 

As for the OL we finally abort the disaster of a coach and replace him with prob the best in the business right now, and addition by subtraction at C. We either have to plug a hole at LG or RT, both positions he draft has starters that will be available in Rd 2 of the draft. And we still have depth, granted not great in Hurst and Ducasse but with a better coach.....maybe good enough, not to mention guys on the PS or later round guys. 

Love Juice, but Woodhead is a upgrade. And we still have a overload at RB and TE. Honestly my only concern is WR as I don't trust BP to suddenly become a starter. And there's not much there behind Wallace and BP, sorry Camp fans but he's made of Glass. Maybe Reynolds or Moore can step up, or maybe we go back to ball control and using our plethora of TEs to work the middle and move the chains and beat teams up like we used to. 

I really like our team this year, our problems are very fixable in the draft. There are guys already on the roster that can hopefully compete for a starting spot in the O-line alongside whoever we take in the draft (which will be someone early) and I love how our defense is coming along. I like Judon as an edge rusher and if we add Tim Williams (even better if it's Barnett) our pass rush is looking good. Not sure if we take Humphrey, if no one slides I see us taking Tim Williams, Robinson, or Ramczyk.

2 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

pretty sure he's got an ounce of other stuff already

I'd say he has closer to pounds.

1 hour ago, Purple_City39 said:

I actually hope the Ravens offer Cleveland a 7th, or even 6th, and they take it.

Gordon is an interesting prospect right now.  He's one mistake from a permanent ban so he can't cost all that much, even if he balls out this year and needs a contract next season (I don't know his current contract length).  At the same time, I think he might have matured since he was actually reinstated last year and withdrew himself to go to rehab. That takes some growing up imo.  And yeah, he's ripped right now. 

He has the potential to be so dominant if he can keep his head on straight

I really like picking up Gordon, I think he could be a great player and if he messes up again then he's not our problem anymore. Low risk, high reward. If he can't stop violating the rules in a job that gets him millions of dollars a year for playing an awesome sport, he won't be able to stay on the team. Just an ounce of maturity could get us great talent at a low price.

5 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

He's like a top 25 talent in this draft...he would definitely be BPA in the 2nd. 

I more meant that what I've seen of him doesn't make him best pick for us in the second at such a crowded position. BPA wasn't the word to use.

1 minute ago, Deflated Football said:

Your username should be Dolan Pls

I'd switch it if I could lol

3 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

underdawg the postas here doan realy understan the cap and cap hit. they jus doan and say figurs that are off by milions. we culd stil trade joe this yr but we signd guys that make gettin betta off that trad harder.  joe is a good guy but he is a mediogre qb cept for those 4 weeks in 2012

i argee. trad joe hes ogre qb. dey shuld of lefft him at da swomp. wut wii do w/o rayray

43 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Tony Pauline has us going Tim Williams in the first round, then he has us taking David Njoku in the second. 

The only TE we have the slightest chance of taking would be Howard as a BPA, and that's also unlikely with all the TEs we have already. Njoku won't be BPA in the second and we'd be wasting such a high pick on such a crowded position with lots of potential.

1 minute ago, Underdogsontop! said:

All the splashes were defense... OK so we are set at O line with the loss of Wagner?  Our O line was weak as heck last season already. 

I think Ross meant if we do have Flacco take a pay cut this year then what FAs would actually be a surefire way of fixing the O-line. As in where would the money from Flacco's cut go.

3 minutes ago, Edgar said:

I don't think he is. Really just conjecture. I'm not convinced about two safeties going top ten and I don't think Adams tape was as impressive in 2016.....thinking a team might go somewhere else with the expectation that they can get Peppers/Baker/Melifonwu or maybe even thompson later.

Adams is better than those guys but perhaps not by as wide a margin for a team in the top ten.

OK I see what you're saying. I saw "Adams could fall out of the top ten" and assumed he got Sidney Jones'd. Probably cause I don't see him falling unless something like that happens.

3 minutes ago, Edgar said:

It's definitely plausible for Howard to be there.

I'm hoping someone before us is picking Peppers but I am more inclined to imagine him available.

If I am in a particularly delusional state I can convince myself that Barnett will be there.

 Jamal Adams could fall out of the top ten.

Why is Jamal Adams expected to fall now? If he was injured at his pro day I haven't heard anything about it.

8 hours ago, rmw10 said:

The active/inactives list is because there's not a Disabled List like in baseball.  It's a way to ensure that all teams have the same amount of players entering the game.  If you have a team with no injuries, you have 53 players you can rotate.  If your team has 6 injuries, you're battling 47 vs. 53 players and that's where the "unfairness" comes in.  If they implemented some sort of DL, maybe they could make that work.  I think it's long been a fear of abuse of the DL system, and also taking the strategy out of the game.  A big part of football is game planning and determining which positions you might be able to go short at in order to get a player at a another position that better fits your game plan.

Thanks for explaining the limited suit-up rule I had no idea what the point of it was. I think maybe the suit-ups should be altered to where you can only suit up to the team with the lower amount of active players, so for instance if it's a 49-53 battle then the 53 team will still have to only suit up 49 rather than the suit up rule now that makes it the same for all teams despite roster condition.

6 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I expect rosters to increase relatively soon but I only see a jump to 55 or so. I wouldn't expect inactive lists to go away though. A big part of the game is strategy - picking who to play and who to try to sneak through waivers. The inactive list is there for fairness in the first place. If you have a team with 10 injuries and another team with 0, that's a 10 player advantage for one team. 

A minor league system sounds great but it's not really feasible. How many leagues have tried and failed already? There's not enough interest in seeing fringe NFL talent for ticket sales and revenues to support a very expensive sport. The league would likely have to be owner supported and funded, and it's hard to imagine businessmen soaking money into something that's not going to make them money. 

The only reason I would like a roster boost to around 60 is so there could be more of a rotation of players, but as for realism, yeah I see what you're saying. As for how the minor league would be supported maybe I could reference how the MLB handles the minors but I have no idea how they do it, maybe the NFL could absorb a league. Owners might be more enticed to have a minor league because it gives a large pool of potential talent to pull from and improve their teams with, profits from things like ticket sales and merch could help but they won't gain nearly as much as they would with any NFL teams and starting the minors would be costly whereas maintaining them shouldn't be as bad. So I agree with you, but I still think the boost to 60 and minor leagues could work.

Honestly I'd love to see a minor league implemented, it helps the NFL in revenue, teams by picking up good prospects with a better alternative to the practice squad, and fans for more football as well as the aforementioned gains from their teams' success. Not sure if other teams should be able to grab players from other minor teams though or in what circumstances they'd be able to do it, but I've thought of possible pathways for this.

49 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

The PI rule should absolutely stay the same. There is no reason to make it a 15 yard penalty instead of calling it at the spot of the foul. That's penalizing the offense for no reason. Also, if you really think we can rely on the refs to determine whether the content was accidental or not, I honestly don't know what to say to you. Id say their job is hard enough as it is. 

I agree, it's just as much the defender's job to not illegally interfere as it is for them to not get burnt; if you interfere, you didn't do your job and gave up a big play, if you get burnt, you didn't do your job and gave up a big play. I think if we make everything reviewable then it won't matter what intent was anyway, it would clarify whether or not a defender was given an advantage in the way they covered someone (getting tangled with a WR at the line, not turning your head and disallowing the receiver to attempt a catch, etc).

4 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

This coming from a fan of Williams - he has character issues.  Regardless of what he says, he's still admitted to failing multiple drug tests and that's a legitimate concern.  He might come off as genuine and remorseful when he speaks, but guys like Josh Gordon and Randy Gregory have also said the same things and look where they are right now.  Now, that doesn't mean Williams will end up like them.  He could very well buck the trend.  I just think you need to know with absolute certainty that he's changed if you're spending your 16th overall pick on a guy in what could be a make or break year for a lot of jobs in the organization.

Yeah, but it's all up to Ozzie and he has access to information that we don't, so we'll see come draft day whether or not Tim's worth that 16th pick. I'm just hoping that he learns from his mistakes and it's just him making bad decisions when he's young, but as you said that could also be attached to guys like Gordon when making excuses for them. I'm not sure about Gordon's and Gregory's case but I like that Williams admitted fault to the public without having to.

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

I wasn't suggesting that he's a head case or anything - was just saying the of the concerns about him, character ones are only ones i feel have legitimacy given what I've seen on film

Yeah I think I remember you talking about that on a topic about Tim. I just meant that if his character concerns are his biggest problem, then he's a good pick up because I don't see anyone making a good argument as to why he's too much character for us to handle.

2 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

I'm not gonna quote everyone because it would take way too long but the way I see it is this:

tim Williams demonstrates some elite traits on tape that are rare - burst, bend, polish which are hard to find at 16 - his run defence value is lesser but that's not to say he's a complete run defender at this point - he has shown in limited opportunities that he has some ability and willingness to defend the run which is enough for me to feel comfortable ignoring those "deficiencies" and focus on his pure rushing ability which is maybe even superior to Barnett (it's close)

for me the negative on Williams is all character concern based

the comp with Ryan Anderson, for me, is disingenuous because they do different things/have different roles - Anderson is a solid contributor in all phases of defence which is useful and would get him on the field - he is not an elite solo rusher but demonstrates good rush ability when he's not double-teamed - he's an all-round playmaker who I have a high 2nd round grade on

but flex is right about positional value - it is easier to find solid contributors than elite pass rushers... there's a reason they get paid amazing money

I really don't think Williams has character issues, he's shown maturity in his interviews and owned up to his mistakes. He seems pretty humble and responsible from when I've seen him talk, and if Ozzie looks into him I'm sure he could get Bama staff to give insight to whether or not character concerns are legitimate.

52 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

It may be boring for Ravens fans, but extra points across the league were, I believe, under an 80% conversion rate. They aren't as routine for most teams anymore.

Hail Mr. Automatic.

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

It may be boring for Ravens fans, but extra points across the league were, I believe, under an 80% conversion rate. They aren't as routine for most teams anymore.

True. I've mostly watched college football, where there's virtually no challenge to the kickers. It also gets blocked way more now due to the further yardage.

This is a video I stumbled upon that talks about how the NFL could be improved (start watching at 6:45 to see where the NFL talk actually starts) which is why I started thinking about the subject. It's a podcast so there's a lot of random junk scattered in between NFL talks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RNRNiEQeOY

They propose kicking up the roster size to 60 or so players with no rules as to how many you can dress (which I am in support of), boosting the season to around 20 weeks with 2 byes and introducing a sort of minor league. They also exercise Harbaugh's and Tuck's idea of getting points from kickoffs, and talk about ways to make the extra point more exciting.

Boosting the roster size would help out to have more of a rotation with players and teams wouldn't have to cut down in one position in order to pad another (for instance, having only 2 QBs to have an extra RB). Also limiting how many players you're allowed to dress in a game doesn't make any sense to me.

Kicking up the season length and adding a bye I don't see the problem with. They proposed converting 2 of the preseason games into regular season games to make the regular season 18 games. Sure it would make season/career stats have to come with an asterisk because players would be playing more games than before, but that's easy to account for. Maybe we could see less commercials in games because of the NFL getting more advertisements in this way, and maybe add a few minutes to half time to further reduce the amount of commercials we see between drives and such. If we introduce minors that's even more revenue, therefore even less commercials hopefully.

A minor league would give players like UDFAs a chance to prove themselves and also give them game experience against NFL-worthy talent. This also gives us more football, which I don't think anybody is against. The NFL could also benefit from them by testing out rules in the minors and sending down refs as a punishment if they have abysmal games. Every NFL team would have their own minor team in their state or an adjacent one. The minors could maybe even play in the spring (it might be better to have the season run alongside NFLs regular season to allow for teams to pull players out when they need them), and I'd love to barely spend any money to see our next big prospects play a game. I see this as an improvement to the practice squad, giving us more players and a more meaningful, competitive experience. We can also pull any players out of the minors rather than just having 10 that we picked, so if we like what we see in a QB we might not need him but he could be a good backup.

The extra point is the most boring play in sports, maybe a mandatory 2 point conversion should be considered. The guys talk about maybe having an option to kick from a few yards closer to the opposite goalpost instead of going for two, and having a touchback go back to maybe the 15 or so yard line to further reward booting the ball as far as you can. Also maybe give returners the option to slide instead of giving their bodies up on a return so we can see teams run it out more instead of just kneeling it to guarantee the 25 yard line, and injuries would be less likely with the slide option.

Just posting to have a conversation about it and see if there's anything I'm missing with yall's opinions. I've really only thought about it while posting, so if I'm mistaken in seeing this as a good thing I'd like to know where I'm wrong.