purpletide

Who says we invest a ton of money? Other teams might not be interested, if he costs a lot I don't see why we would bother at all.

At the time I didn't see that we had tried to trade but got a call from the 9ers. I was just going off of the notification on my phone and others on the site.

I honestly think we have a very legitimate chance of landing Davis. Teams would like to have that speed guy in Ross, and I don't see Davis having a chance of going before Williams.

True. Nonetheless we'll see how the draft goes and adjust accordingly. I think Lewis can do it given time to adjust.

When you break it down I think that we could definitely fill holes without trading back, but as you said we're more likely to properly fill a hole with more players brought in. I see us taking BPA in the first round though, I feel like there's some sliding potential on a few.

Plus Lewis is young, he can learn to play T if there's really no other option and stay there in the future.

"math guy" lol. Yeah I think Mangold would fit us fine, more than Zuttah by the looks of it.

True. I just wonder if we could have shook a little bit more value out of the trade though.

Yeah not sure how I feel about that yet

Why I don't like talking about trade back scenarios as much, everything depends on the board. No telling what pick could yield what.

Seems like we just wanted anything we could get in addition to getting rid of Zuttah.

I still think Humphrey is reasonable considering I see 2 corners going before him

CB is very deep this year, WR and O-line not so much. If Corey Davis falls to us (or really anyone that slides that could contribute), I don't see any reason to trade back. I'm definitely not against trading back though, there's just too many factors to go ahead and say that trading will yield the best results. FAs that we could have an interest in are still out there, for instance we might pick up Mangold (just an example), then we don't need a C as badly so we can afford to take a BPA without as much risk. Depth can be found in a lot of ways, we could pick up some UDFAs and have them through training camp and the preseason just to try them out and have some young guys if the need is that bad. Don't get me wrong I like your idea of trying to maximize the gain we get from this class but I only really see a guaranteed good result from the CBs in this draft. I guess we can only really judge once we've seen what players are left on the board.

I was more referring to us needing to pick up another O-lineman, not specifically Mangold. I do think that getting Mangold is a good idea however, assuming we don't throw a ton of money his way. Not a long term solution, but its a start.

Taking a third rounder and Butler is more reasonable, but as you said it doesn't matter anyway. Also keep in mind Elam was the 32nd overall pick (in 2013, which was a garbage draft as a whole) and Mosley was 17th. I did talk Claiborne up more than what I actually think he'll bring to the team, I don't like his injury history and that makes me unsure of what his future with us will actually be like if we do sign him. That's why I still like a CB in the early rounds, and I'm confident that Ozzie will see that forking over a ton of cash for Claiborne is a bad idea. It's definitely not guaranteed that we even pick up Claiborne but I'm pretty sure we will, and as long as the contract's reasonable I don't think we could go wrong with having another potentially good CB.

You think Ross or Davis would be better for us?

Could work better for what we want our offense to be next year. Hopefully we're shifting more towards the run game.

I agree, but I'd still gladly take Foster if he slides. I also believe people are counting Judon out too quickly on the edge. I know we're looking for the edge to replace Suggs, but I really think Judon will step up just fine in Doom's place.

I read that he's a RFA somewhere, so no trade required. I'm down, his past issues/violations are manageable and he's young and could use guidance. I wouldn't be near as forgiving if he had violent crimes on his record or showed that he's legitimately a dangerous person. I have no doubt that he's a good player and we could use that low cost/risk high reward guy this offseason. We need to improve our offense step by step, and I like this move.

I'd like Howard for the fact that Flacco doesn't have that freak of an athlete that can stack up YAC even if you just dump it off at/behind the line. Not sure what offers Pitta or Maxx collects in the market, but Pitta's already accepted 2 pay cuts just to stay with us. I'd feel dirty trading him especially being Flacco's favorite target.

I hope so... need to pick guys up before someone else gets to them.

Pats are obviously better than the Cowboys, so the playoffs thing doesn't matter when it's almost guaranteed. If you can brush off the play that Butler got torched for a TD, then we can also take off the game-winning play in which it seemed like Wilson was throwing there anyway, and Butler was just in the right position. It boils down to Claiborne and Butler having pretty much the same amount of skill (from what I see), but if we go the Claiborne route then we also get a first rounder without giving the reigning SB champs the 16th overall pick. Having a 1st-3rd round CB and Claiborne is far better than just Butler (and again I can't get over how stupid it is to give NE 16th pick given what all we need to work on). As I said before we would love to have a BPA slider in the first that you couldn't match in the second round if everything lines up.

We don't have a seventh rounder.

How do you feel about the rest of the draft? I don't know how I feel about taking a WR in the 6th, but I haven't looked into the later round prospects as much.

That's what I'm thinking. The better player doesn't matter as much as how valuable good corners are in the NFL. I like what I've heard from Watt but I'm not sure when he's meant to go, whether him or Humphrey are more likely to slide.