JonnyBaltimore

Retire in good health Zach!

What a great season you had!

"I think" "you have to realize", these are not the language of a decisive leader. Say it like you mean it Flacco!

26 minutes ago, AsianRice said:

One thing for sure is Belicheck can live without Brady, but Brady can't live without Belicheck.....

Evidence? Belicheck can win games with any QB............

I would agree with this however, we haven't seen Brady without Belicheck, so we can't really come to that conclusion!

In the regular season, Belicheck can win without Brady, but in the post season there is little data to support that.

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Hooker is impressive man. 

Cant say I agree with Thomas at 5. He's a top 20 guy to me for sure if I'm disregarding the ravens, but 5 is pushing it way too far

My issue is if Hooker is the Ball Hawk that people don't throw to in the secondary, then the corners on Ohio State are a bit more difficult to assess. I mean if you have that type of player playing over the top, the opposing offence is funneled away from that side of the field, and the corners have it ''easier''.

To have Conley, Lattimore and Booker all top 20 picks is going to come down to who is the one making the plays or influencing the plays the most.

6 hours ago, ALI624 said:

Looks like experts are starting early. Daniel Jeremiah has use taking Quincy Wilson, although he has the Saints taking Tre'Davious White and Corey Davis going before Mike Williams both of which I highly doubt happen. And Mel Kiper Jr. has us taking Jabrill Peppers which I hope not I just don't see him being anything more than a novelty player. One turnover in his college career and he is supposed to be an impact player, no thanks.

I wouldn't mind Peppers but not in the 1st round. He fits the mold as playing physical and playing like a Raven. He is a leader in spades and plays with great passion and emotion. I'd take him in the second round but I'd think he wouldn't be there.

Sidney Jones or Q. Wilson would be ideal. One of them should be there at 16.

16 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

The whining has always been pathetic and he's never been able to weather pressure. Seems kinda silly to me that he is ever included in any conversations about the GOAT.  While he's a good QB at times and has been on teams that have won SBs, he's not even close to being the best of his era let alone all time. 

The way I see grading Brady is if you have Ed Reed back there, and your cornerbacks play well, it is a bit difficult to know how good your corners are. Same with Brady, he has Belicheck back there, so it is a bit difficult to assess his ''greatness'' to the teams.

One thing is for sure though: the Belicheck + Brady combo is one of the best of all time. Who contributes more is difficult to ascertain.

18 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Yea i have always said the way to beat brady is to hit him early and hit him heard.  Seeing him whine was so great

Yeah, I think Pittsburgh will get to the quarterback. Their defence is playing extremely well. If they can stop the run, which I think they will, then they will make Brady's day a tough one.

There is nothing I enjoy more than seeing Brady get hit! Even that Houston game, it was so enjoyable!

7 hours ago, Ravens4Real said:

I don't see how the Packers have a chance if Nelson and Adams can't go in their game. Packers D can be scored upon in bunches and will need to keep up. That game either ends up 42-41 or the Packers will get blown out if their stars can't make it back.

I think this where the Rodger's train goes off track. I just don't see how the GB defence will be able to stop Atlanta at home.

If Dallas had a better game plan, they would've won easily. I think it will be an Atlanta blowout by more than 2 TDs.

21 hours ago, usmccharles said:

So i listen to Colin Cowherd basically everyday (and Clay Travis) and he brought up a very interesting point.  

Look at Tom Brady's last 3 playoff games:

2015: 

Vs KC - 28-42 302yards and 2TDs, 66% completion. Obviously a good game

Vs Denver - 27-56 310 yards 1TD, 2ints, 48% completion.  Obviously terrible

2016

Vs HOU - 18-38 287 yards 2TDs, 2ints, 47% completion, Obviously terrible. 

I think we can all agree if the Texans had a decent QB the Texans would have won that game.  NE looked bad.  Now onto Colin's hypothetical:  If he comes out Sunday and looks like garbage, its not out of the question to think that Kraft and BB have a discussion about what to do with their QB situation with JimmyG sitting.  Colin didnt say they would move on, but definitely thinks there would at least be a discussion, i found it interesting

Both in Denver and Houston, they were able to get pressure and abuse Brady repeatedly. Also, they had the best secondarys in the league! 

I give him credit for bouncing back after a torn ACL and not missing 1 game. His durability and toughness is second to none in this league. That said, we did not make the playoffs and he is a big reason why we did not.

Injured or not, he is AVERAGE JOE in the regular season, and JANUARY JOE in the post season.

And nobody listened to him, but what about his other picks? Probably the reason why they didn't listen to him.

New Top 50 prospects D. Jeremiah

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000775479/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-prospects-for-2017-nfl-draft

We have Sidney Jones as the 2nd best CB off the board behind Lattimore

1 hour ago, VermontRaven said:

It's definitely a tough debate about which is more important: pass rush or secondary.  In reality, it is impossible to separate the 2 because they rely on each other.  Personally, I would rather invest in another good CB over pass rusher.  I think we have a pretty good sample about what our team looks like with 2 quality outside corners vs. 1 (even with our inconsistent pass rush)  Unless our pass rush drastically improves (which I am not sure would happen by the addition of just 1 player), I feel upgrading CB is a much safer route to go with us.  I feel if we had 1 more quality outside CB, we would be in the playoffs and ready to give NE/Pitt/anybody else one heck of a game.

I think we are going to go DB because we have Z. Smith, Judon, plus our 2nd round and 3rd round picks from last year that are ''pass rushers'' but haven't been on the field yet. 

On 1/14/2017 at 10:37 PM, ravensnation5220 said:

 https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000690216/article/sources-tell-us-what-were-hearing-about-fsu-rb-dalvin-cook?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Dcollege-football%3Bplyr%3Djamaal_charles&p.ct=CFB 24%2F7&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23ffffff&p.bgc1m=%23000000&sr=amp

That's were the quote came from

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/13252235/dalvin-cook-florida-state-seminoles-strike-woman-attorney-says

And some other info on the topic

The problem here is that it's not just one incident. That's what worries me. Kinda like the Tim Williams problem. It's a repeated off the feild issue with these kids

He got acquitted, but he might be off our board. That sucks. I guess it will depend on our scouts to dig for more info, but it looks a bit sketchy to be honest.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2015/08/24/-latest-woman-says-shes-sure-fsu-player-punched-her/32262335/

1 hour ago, darklight1216 said:

The Patriots are usually very good against Pittsburgh. And I have a feeling that a game in NE will put an end to the mysteriously missing offensive holding penalties against the Steelers o-line. 

The Steelers O will make plays against NE, but I think Brady makes a few more. I'll take the Pats in this one.

Should be a good game. Much rather Steelers than the Chiefs.

Patriots are at home without travel, plus they have an extra day off to prepare and they had the BYE week, so they are rested and have the advantage. But if you look at Brady after that Houston game, he looked dejected. I think he was dejected because he got hit so much. He will be feeling it this week I guarantee that!

If Dupree can lay the lumber early and set the tone, I think it will be a long night for Brady. Those Pittsburgh linebackers are fast and good. They got to send Mitchell, Shazier on some blitzes and knock Brady off the spot. If they can hit him early, they will have a good chance slowing them down. The Steelers have the muscle on both sides of the ball and that's how you can beat the Pats.

Steelers have also been stout against the run since the latter part of the season and I don't expect Blount to be able run the ball effectively.

28 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

No. The Owner doesn't have to step on anybodies toes, nor does he have to fire a coach without telling the GM, because the GM in a round about way reports to the Owner.

Given that the Owner answers to essentially nobody, he can simply walk into the GM's office, say "I'm firing Rex", and then walk out. The GM can complain about it all he wants, but it won't solve anything.

 

So why did the GM state unequivocally he did not know that the HC was fired? Anyone familiar with organizational structure knows this makes no sense. This is not a PR stunt as you claimed.

And the evidence and reasoning you have offered is not convincing.

Here is the article surrounding the circumstances of the firing of Rex Ryan. It is clear to me you have not done your due diligence:

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Bills-owner-outlines-reasons-for-firing-Rex-Ryan/fb3ef253-cba7-4776-b3eb-dd3cace2c3ea

"And he spoke shortly after Whaley held an end-of-season news conference in which the general manager said he had no idea Ryan's job was in jeopardy and had no input into the coaching change.

Pegula backed up Whaley's comments in his first interview since Ryan was fired on Dec. 27 and replaced by Anthony Lynn, who took over as interim coach.

Pegula said he made what he called "an executive decision" to fire Ryan during his weekly conference call with the coach and Whaley."

"Ozzie Newsome emphasized the importance of having two quality quarterbacks, and Ryan Mallett's contract is up."

It would be nice to have even one quality QB.

LMAO

1 hour ago, RayRayRaven said:

nuff sayd

two number one picks in 2017, two number one picks in 2018 and then our others 2 thru 7 at high draft position. then in 2019 likely another high draft position for 7 rounds.

cant be afraid of the boogeyman, unless happy with mediogre. 

I would definitely trade Flacco for A. Rodgers but I know some Flacco Die hards would at least want Green Bay to throw in a sixth round pick.

2 minutes ago, darklight1216 said:

Neither Atlanta nor GB have defenses that inspire much confidence against NE. I'm going to be so mad if the Pats win another SB. 

Might Brady finally retire if they do? At least one good thing could come of it...

Steelers will beat them.

Steelers have a good enough team on both sides of the ball to do it. Their D is healthy compared to their first game in Pittsburgh and their O-line is dominating now which should allow them success moving the ball. If Big Ben can limit his TOs, Steelers win!

Both the Falcons and Packers have bad defences so they are bad matchups for the Patriots. The Patriots are will score more than they will give up, considering they have one of the best defences in the league.

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Or it was done by a collection of people and the GM blamed the Owner, knowing that he too is likely to be fired soon as well.

Pretty much any scenario is more believable than a boss not knowing that his employee was fired.

When you are the owner, you call the shots. So I'm not sure why it isn't a believable scenario, it happens all the time in organizations where people step over peoples toes.

4 minutes ago, flynismo said:

"That's on me"? What, you think my or your opinion actually means anything? Do you actually think we'll cut Flacco if enough people pretend Tyrod Taylor or Jay Cutler is better or something?

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But if you are asking me if my opinion will get management to cut Flacco, then my answer is no. This is only because I don't want to cut Flacco if you have actually read and understand my viewpoint.

The stats are the stats. Thats why we keep them. It no pretend. 

The only thing pretending is those people who blindly defend Flacco, thinking he is playing better than he is.

2 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

"For those of us that have watched......."  blah, blah, blah.  I was at the first game he played in 2004 and have watched him enough over the years to know when he is playing well and when he's not. If it were not for Brown and Bell it would have been the Ravens(as bad as they were this year) beating KC yesterday. Ben's play has been mediocre at best. 

Yeah I don't think Ben has played that well. I think their O-line is dominating.

6 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

Don't get me wrong because I hope they kill the patsies, but Ben has really sucked and no TDs is hardly clicking. 

Yeah I agree Ben has not played very well, but Bell and the O-line are dominating. It will be interesting to see if they can do that to the Pats. 

Both teams are good on both sides of the ball, so it will be a good matchup. I think with Tuitt back in the lineup and Dupree and Harrison on the outside and Shazier inside, they are going to get to the QB and hit Brady. If they can get to Brady, they will be able to slow him down. If they can't, their offence will have to keep them in.

Good matchup! Wish it were us

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Firing a coach mid-season is a bad PR strategy for literally everybody (GM, Owner, etc.). 

Thats the point. It wasn't a strategy. It was done by the Owner.

You don't fire a coach and blame it on the Owner.

1 hour ago, Ravens4Real said:

Now I know the majority of this board despises the Steelers, but watching that game, the Chiefs were lucky they were even in the darn thing. They were getting embarassed at the point of attack. The Steelers O line is probably the MVP of that entire team. I'm not sure if Ben was even sacked either.

To my next point, Steelers coaching almost lost them the game again. Why in gods name are they constantly passing down inside the 5 when your RB has 6-7 yards a carry? It makes no sense.

Yeah Pittsburgh dominated that game. The score was not indicative of the play. They are going to be tough to beat because they are clicking both on offence and defence.