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22 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

 

this is how far I read this time.

regards last nonsense. the F grade ours leaders got for not havin a trainsition plan has not much to do with how much farther ed and beranard took their carreers. it had to do with bringin a poorly draffed safety along. a guy that really needed help right off. not sayin bad draff elam wuld have turned it aroun but mayby he mighta got his head aroun his bad play with studs like reed and pollard givin advice. elam nevah was gonna grow hands ed. a guy got hands or he doan. you see ed, ya can't train hands up. you really cant. by the time a guy is 21 yrs ole he has hands or he doan. now i'll tel u some inside info ed, info that was loss on our leaders. you doan draff a safety or any corner than doan got hands. the reason being you draff guys that will help you pass the ball or you draff guys that will help you stop them from passin the ball. your leaders clear doan know that ed. cuz they draffed elam an signed jeffeerson, but now you do so we can discuss who is a good guy to draff.  welcum to the draff contest. I'll be watchin you. but bringin back up what you doan know bout past things is a waste of time and wont help u goin forwards. it will help me cuz I been there.  who will draff betta ed?

13 hours ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

I don't want to derail the conversation but I don't like false comments being attributed to me.

First of all @RayRayRaven, there is no speculation about Ed Reed's time being up and him being a shell of himself when he went to Houston, got cut, and then was signed on by the Jets. There is no speculation about Bernard Pollard not doing much of anything after he left Baltimore.

 

 

red this far and it clear we wastin time with  u. lets get u in da draff contest wanna see hows u do

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

he knows absolutely nothing. his ideas come from nowhere, no film study, no idea of scouting traits, nothing. just reading box scores and listening to talking heads who's opinions are aimed at the least knowledgeable football fans, so i guess thats a solid source for him, but as soon as he gets into a football debate with someone who knows something, its all "lol sorry i dont spend all my time watching football like you losers".

u can watch a lot of flim and read a ton of scoutin reports but in the end if a man can spot talant with his eye and confirms it with box score he can be way more betta than a study frog that got no feelin for the hunt

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i wasnt a big fan of kaufusi, i wanted billings there so we wouldnt have to re-sign williams for so much, im not big on super tall trench guys who dont have that natural lean and bend and struggle with leverage, BUT that shuttle time is amazing when considering his size, and his get-off and motor is excellent for a guy with his build, it definitely gives a base to build on. 

i wouldnt call the guy a freak athlete, but i would call him a bit of a freak in general, he IS athletic and built like a behemoth, if he bulks up his legs and gets up to 290 and replaces the midsection fat with muscle, and learns some leverage technique, he could be a steal. i think he'll ultimately just end up a roleplayer who makes some plays due to his motor and natural ability, but i dont think hes gonna live up to his potential fully.

whenevah u see someon say that a guy can be a star if he does this one thing AFTA u drafted him youve missed ur pic

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

 

the draft is a crap shoot, mike mayock is being recruited to GM for the skins right now and he has missed a hell of a lot of evaluations. youre more than welcome to do something other than spew cancer here, you can post your own evaluations and predictions and i can screenshot them all. if youre being cancerous on the new boards ill just be sure to bring up your failures there.

the draff is a crap shoot for  the ravens and that is the problem.  its been the crappiest crapshoot for to many yrs now. that s why we are runnin a contest this yr. we are gonna show that it aint a crapshoot for some.

4 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

He did do well in coverage at the SS position with Webb as his tandem mate who is probably better at coverage overall than either Weddle or Jefferson. I am not really worried that they will both be horrible. I think they both will be pretty good. It is really all about schemes. Of course if our front 7 can get more pressure the coverage issue won't be a big of a concern.

first agree that webb was not as bad as th e potentail for desaster we face fieldin weddle and jeffeerson. they can tackle some but they are a pass game liabillity.

ed you was one that gave support to flex on his total specalation they ed and pollard were washed out.  guys that just won us a superbowl. that toted that load when ngata went out and the d crashed. like flex you specalate that guys can no longer play and then specalate that guys that havn't shown a thing are gonna turn to studs when theys lose fat.  its infurreating. the talkin heads pass around these blurbs like they is gospel that they is preachin. from da paulpit. its sickining. these preachers then aplaud weddle for the great yr in 2016 makin 4 pics defencein 13 passes and 48 solo tackles with a mess more assists. not a bad yr but when he bit up on play action and chris Hogan scorched him a real pass game safety don't sell out like that. weddle can tackle but he is not what we need at FS.  than u parrot flex that ed reed was ovah after 2012 a year that saw his solo tackles highest in 6 yrs and more than weddles. ed also pic'd the ball 4 times and got us to the big game where he pic'd another one. he defended more passes than weddles great yr.  when flex the wiz says he was washed out.  and all this when ed reed and pollard lay ovah the wannabes on the eye test. a test flex nevah had an d nevah will.  u guys pretend and pretend and pretend and its nauseatin.  heres the links read em man an get back to preachin but jus remember what the book says bout da false prophet  how can these guys talk bout who we need and where to go when they cant get a handle on where we been?

eds career

washd up ed

weddle career

weddles great yr

48 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Let's talk about some of your scouting reports. Correa, Brown,Perriman,Davis,Upshaw. Watch the list continue to grow of players you said were good draft picks. I watch some tape but I do have different hobbies. If you watch as much film as you say that is pretty pathetic 

I doan know hate to say neg things about mista flex since hes a regular posta but theres no one here ive found to be more dead wrong cept maybe for oz recently. do agree with u that judon is the gem of last yrs draftin

1 minute ago, lgcs27288 said:

Who knows if we went after a receiver or not. Im curious why youd like Torrey over Wallace. Theres still the draft and TC cuts.

chemistry.

doan get me wrong if its up t ome we trade flacco this season and take the big cap hit. cleveland is stil in the market read they are shoppin osweller already. but we've already made FA signins like Williams, jeffereeson and woodhead an dispite cutting doom, webb an others we are to deep in the signin hole now.  the plan was to take the big cap hit release the old guys and draft like banashees. on top of the board number 1's.   i was talkin a total rebuilt which wulld include dumpin our FO.  the nuke option. I am serreous as a heart attack but no on e sees it. 

but if you insist upon stickin with flacco you got to know his weakness and that is  comfort. he must have comfort with his ball catchr. guys he likes are guys he likes. Tsmith was one of t hem. Pitta, ssmith, aboldin. wallace he didn't do terrible with but i go tsmith

45 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Corey Graham had a great time as a Raven and he was very good with the Bills, but there is a reason why he moved to Safety and if you looked, we are kind of okay with that position now. We just let Webb go and he could do all the things that Graham could have. I don't think Graham would sign for backup money either. So I don't think it is really about the decision makers trying to protect their egos. I think it is about football/cap related issues.

since 2012 hes nevah been seriously injured I love hickary players. i like Jefferson to tackle. doan care for his coverage skil at all though an I doan believe we are set @ safety or corner. he's still got 5th man skils

Just now, allblackraven said:

Maybe they'd get little less obnoxious if you stop responding to their every post and help destroy threads? What does this particularback&forth have to do with FA targets?

the inability of our leaders to recognize them  how da heck did tyrelle prior get away from us. FA got with FA's lost with FA's available it goes round and round. we talk about whose left, who they missed, whether you can trust em at all.  you wanna talk bout a remainin FA we'll pass on go head.

11 hours ago, Orange_Peanut said:

Is it just me who wants Corey Graham back???

id go corey again in a ny minute.  he was hickary for the bills. no missed time. we got a problem though. we got deciders who don't like to go back on howd they decided. its the one thing you can predict with em.  at least in there eye they doan make mistakes

4 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

Looool I had to read that 3 times and I'm still not sure I understand it all.

 The day they believe this team can't go all the way then they will blow it up. Trade a few guys for picks and swallow a whole lot of dead cap for a year then have about 50mil to work with the next year.

xactly

18 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

So Pryor signs for 1 year $6m essentially and we don't get him????

Ticked. That was super affordable. And gets rid of all the risk that he was a 1 yr wonder. Especially with Alshon getting 1 yr $14m, and Britt/Stills getting multi year $8m avg --- this was the move to make. 

Huge reward almost no risk. 

charracter issue.  but this is the best and smartest  post you evah made. but if we keep joe flacco how is pryor not a raven. crazy

17 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

I'm beginning to question our managements priorities. And what it thinks it has. And what it thinks it takes to win. We have not drafted an all pro player since Billick days. He knew you needed cornerstones build around

you may not be the smartest posta here but between honesty and smarts you was a giant in a little land

13 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

 Stanley over Tunsil (which so far looks like the right move). Yanda over Grubbs. 

 

Yes it goes the other way sometimes too. Talent can overcome shortcomings. 

But hard work and mentality can over come talent deficiencies or measurables.

buy what measure? sacks allowed penalti team sucess, overall line play.  how do you get there. will say stanly played pretty well and oz got lucky but in letting wags walk he got wrong again last I saw grubbs was playin well too

now we need a center and a right tackle. jus gotta have me a right tackle

3 hours ago, Purple&Black#20 said:

1. You have had to play football to understand football. 

i think that is true

2. This is not a Flacco debt. You keep bringing up we have a lot of money tied up but who's making the most???

flacco is definetly the white elephant in the room. you cant fix what ails the rayvans without fixin the flacco problem. plain an d simple.

3. I never said we cut Reed, I understand his contract was up and had lost a step but with Ray retiring you would think it would be smart to keep your second best defensive player of all time on the roster for next season. Reed was a smart football player and could of finished his career at SS where he started. 

u gotta give oz credit for draftin reed but you gotta give oz the rasberries for totally muckin up our safety situation to. we still aint recovered from losin both are superbowl safeties. they hopin Jefferson fixes it. big hopeing

4. You bring up only 1 season (2014) after there departure because of injuries. Tom Brady did not play the first 4 games and they went 3-1. Stop reaching for excuses. You sound just like harbaugh and Flacco. 

harball says things to protect his job. he's been a very mediogre coach for a long time.

5. We keep investing in the wrong players. If flacco is our guy then put the talent around him to do well. He needs big receiver's that can go up and get the ball. Pryor would have been great but again we couldn't bring him in for 8 million? 

funny aint it?  oz paid flacco like the second comin of brady than took away his recievers. than took away his line. the number of miss calculations in his flacco math looks like a grade of F

36 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

Our FO proved that we are in win now mode last off season and this off season theyr leaving no doubt

my mama learned me to not ask questions it aint curteos. but hav to ask this one. serreously now, do you really believe Jefferson the little guy rb and signin Williams again makes us win now team?  are these the type of moves taht shout out at ya we are in it to win it?  cuz I doan see it at all. it looks like the same type of moves we been makin for five yrs now. do you really believe these guys turn us the corner?  and how far do t hey turn it? winnin record? da palyoffs? . cuz it looks more  like here and the ringlin bros barmen and bailee closing down and painted faces with no place to go

cuz we are rebuldin but we aint doin what has to be done

18 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Tony Jefferson is a very good addition. Keeping Brandon Williams, even at the overpay isn't a horrible move.

u sur about that? both ways?

I hav to say this. Jefferson can tackle. he sur can and if he was signed to do something elam culdnt do like tackle at least he'd be half a footbal player.  but as far as make anyon e forget reed and pollard not even close.  as my fav poster purple rider says this is a passin league.  if ur player aint good at helpin the pass or stopping the pass you got the right player 

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 7:17 PM, sflegend89 said:

At this point we might have to just blow it up and look forward to 2018. .

its goin so bad for the rayvans that we even missed the blowup oppurtunity.  its really gotten to comicle. if we had dropped the nuk bomb and traded flacco to the brownees we'd be sittin on a really nice rebuild for 2019 but insted we are gonna do it the hard way and its gonna take a lot longer.  lesson number 1 you don't pay cap buster salaries to a qb you cant build ur team aroun

when he was a corner back when thought he was among the best. thought we might cut him if we traded flacco. but gotta say am not sold on jeffereson in the very least. not at all. it jus keeps getting mor and mor interstin

8 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Of all the players to finally pony up market value to. This is where? Of all the players on the market that could really help us establish a 21st century identity. This is where our funds are shelled out? I mean Terrell Pryor, Kevin Zeitler, Alshon Jeffrey,Osemele, Gilmore, Claiborne. Management decides to overpay a run stuffer that leaves the field on passing downs in a passing league. 

Joe plays his best football when he is protected. Where is this elite offensive line Harbaugh and Newsome talked about? We shelled out for a run stuffing box safety and a run stuffing one dimensional NT that leaves the field on passing downs.  Hoping some practice squadders step up is the elite offensive line senator Harbaugh spoke of? What happens every time he says we feel good about our receivers? Now he is going to be saying it about the offensive line to. Yanda is no spring chicken. He could decline. He is going into season 11. We let 2 lineman walk. Yanda could decline and that is not a plan for offensive success.  Do you like watching the patriots winning super bowls? 

jus more proof we are not heddin  in the right direction

1 hour ago, Edgar said:

Wagner is viewed as a top flight tackle. Osemele a top flight guard,  etc.

Curious investment to me. We can replace guys on the offensive line with rookies and unproven players apparently but break the bank on Williams ?

 

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 9:18 PM, ellicottraven said:

Sorry Admin 3. This is not intended directly at you, but the heads that made this decision are just plain short sighted and foolish. In the short term, you'll find no increase in traffic to your FB or twitter feeds and moreover will end up losing fan interaction which is critical to fan engagement. That is how the dollars flow - fans to club. I just hope whoever made this decision (probably anticipating some pushback but thinking it was needed to cut costs or whatever) better hope that the real powers that be - Owner Steve Bisciotti and President Cass are fully aware of this decision. Because if this novel business school churlish idea backfires, their heads will be the first to roll.

eraven it looks pretty clear.  when the board starts bout 2007 everythin was on th e upswing. the raven era from 2008-2112 was there and fans were mostly positive with a good team and new direction. now lots of folks are disagreein sometimes it boils over to name callin and they clean up the mess. but its not all happy talk now cuz its not all happy. the team is headin in the wrong direction and some folks are sayin it and others are true purple and defend to the end. its not like it was and they doan wanna be a part of the transition and that's there right. all things come to an end. getting along, this board, the rain of oz. times change

18 hours ago, Admin 3 said:

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26 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I'm not upset that he's back, our defense is better with him than without, but the question is whether it's $11M/yr better, I don't know. I guess losing Orr forced our hand, the best thing you can do for a first year starting ILB, and ILBs in general, is to plug up the middle and allow them to run free, I suppose that was the thinking.

base it on strictly watchin him. he started games strong but faded as the game went on. pierce played as well in the watchin and looked to have a bigger gas tank.  the more difficult u make it th e more stuk in quicsand you get. weve been gettin stuck a lot now.

4 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

El oh el, is that really you're reasoning. Ed Reed gave up his fair share of big plays. I guess he wasn't good.

doan even preten to go there!

ok lets see, huff, elam, idwegebo,  kendric, traywic, webb, weddle am I missin anyone?

I doan even want to type about it makes my stomache hurt

8 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

lol wut they signed the best safety in the league last offseason 

wow

to be played a max vlume and resolutesion

pro bolwer

18 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I was initially rough on bringing Williams back because he faded down the stretch, but you have to consider also that the entire front seven faded with him. Coincidence? No, it's really not.

I also want to see the Ravens put him in more situations to be a one gap player that can knife gaps. I think Williams has some underrated quickness and if he shed 10-15 pounds, he might be able to slice in there and generate some pressure from the interior.

this is a bad move. pierce was mor than adaquate. we paid to much for to little. its what we do now.

11 minutes ago, ravefan52 said:

I like Williams, but not for that price. I think we could have significantly upgraded multiple other positions with that money and had been fine with other DT options. Now there's no money for the offense and we've have lost our best WR, a top 5 RT and the best FB in the league. Oh, and remember historically terrible the offense was? Oh yeah, and isn't this a stacked defensive draft class and weak offensive class? I just can't get behind this

we culd have let Williams walk. we faded down the stretch facin tougher teams. Williams is russ Maryland. not a 4 qtr player

4 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

 

And Jefferson is going to get roasted by the athletic TE's like Gronk,Kelce and the guy in Cincinnati. He is a box safety. Arizona limited his responsibility. Their rush and secondary is really good. He runs like a 4.8 40. His limitations are going to show up early. And management will have to answer for this. Stuff the run but get roasted by the great offenses and QBs

they already are we have botched safety choices for at least 5 yrs now

On ‎3‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 6:49 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Oh my god... you can't be serious. Dead cap applies to trades the same way it applies to cuts. 

missed the chance with the brownees but obveeously you trade away all comin salary and all allacated monie for 2017 and beyon .  we messed up the brownees wuld have meet our offer. its to late  now. theres other teams but the brownees were are oyster

omg

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 10:59 AM, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

http://baltimoreravens.boardhost.com/index.php

 

That's the forum I'm setting up. Feel free to click and create a profile.

For now I have to approve all new members but will do so as soon as im able for anyone interested. The bare bones are there, but still customizing appearances and forum rules.

I'll be appointing mods as well.

 

Dont expect it to be too active, until this is officially confirmed and we need an alternative, but everyones welcome.

well this is very sad big letter,little letter and its good of y ou to start another board.

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 11:25 AM, Purple_City39 said:

Looks like we can post links.  For anyone looking for another board (or another board in addition to the ones linked), here's the one I mentioned.  We could use more knowledgeable Ravens fans

http://live4sportnetwork.com/forumlist/

at least we have a a choice of new places to cheer or call names

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 11:27 AM, Moderator 3 said:

Once upon a time  Scout was the premier forums for Ravens fans.  This site basically killed that one, but it is still there and a little bit active.  There are still some dedicated posters.  May I suggest a mass migration back?  Here's the link to the "Ravens Talk" forum.  Many other forums ( off-topic, fantasy, etc.) are also available.  

http://www.scout.com/nfl/ravens/forums/1666-your-baltimore-ravens

 

id vote for mod 3 suggestian due to modding for a long time

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 11:30 AM, usmccharles said:

I definitely would. 

This is terrible.  I don't do social media, no Facebook, Instagram, anything. 

Im not happy....

I doan tweet or twitter either

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 11:35 AM, Admin 3 said:

Just to dispel the various questions of those wondering if this is an April Fools joke, it is not. March 31 will be the last day the boards remain open.

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 11:53 AM, Tank 92 said:

I think it was that ray rayvens dude that shut t his place down.    lol

tank I did start that contest to go against oz's pics this yr to make a point and they might not want that to happan.  so it might be part my falt but didn't the site do away with the header link to the boards first?  they been plannin this. still we can start a new board and I can post my top 100 pics I've been workin on. we can do this still.  did you see we missed our brownies chance to unload joe.  big mistak not getting that deal done with the brownies. now they got osweller.

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 0:12 PM, trevorsteadman said:

Best post I have read in awhile 

it wasn't jus me fur sur trevor read above

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 0:40 PM, Deflated Football said:

This is ridiculous. What about those that don't have a Facebook? This is the only place where I can go to talk about the Ravens in a somewhat civilized manner. 

if ya don't tweet or twit or facebook the mod 3 suggestion looks good