RayRayRaven

8 hours ago, The Raven said:

With all due respect, what the hell does that even mean? I'll forgive poor spelling if you actually convey a thought (it doesn't even have to be an intelligent one) but I don't even think you managed to pull that off this time. 

And I don't give a crap about yardage when his efficiency was garbage. Joe Flacco is about as efficient as a Hummer, but at least he's big and flashy with the big plays.

that basicily what I said.  joe owns more bad ratins than bout any other nfl qb.  what I said was after collectin the big contrac and then the renegoatiated contrac joe has played like he got paid.  his numbas are bout the same but your right he got bad gas mileaege.

On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 10:48 PM, ellicottraven said:

My first takeaway is Thank God for Brandon Carr! My second takeaway is Thank God that Claiborne didn't immediately agree to our $5M/yr offer. My third takeaway is Thank God the Ravens didn't offer more money to sign Claiborne because he would've agreed and become Eugene Monroe's second coming!!!!

like the fac brandan carr is durable did u kno he has been a starter evah since his rookie season and has nevah missed a game. which prolly means acl for us.  hes also a pretty good tackler. but what hes not is dinamic and at this stage beatable. not sayn he wont help some. we had some pretty bad guys on the edges. jus doan see the difference maker.  every move is da death by 1000 pin prics

On ‎3‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 9:04 AM, ellicottraven said:

Short answer I really don't know. But, my guess is the front office especially Eric DeCosta has a good sense of other team's rosters and is very adept at projecting where teams may make their cuts. So my guess is the Ravens are confident that the losses can very easily be supplemented with cuts from other teams or in the worst case scenario they've a trade situation figured out if neither cuts or the draft work out.

eraven u r legend man, nobody has posted numbers like u an u deserve respekt. when u say walkers like wagner can be supplemented by decosta with cutoffs from other teams why cant they come from r own rosta that decosta builded? thats what funny

On ‎3‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 0:08 AM, lgcs27288 said:

I was going to type a long paragraph on why what ellicott said is true, but decided it wasnt worth it.

yah mighta been a good post anywhares from 2008 to 2012, but that dog wont hunt now.

On ‎3‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 1:04 AM, ellicottraven said:

This is by far the most effective post you've made even though you're rolling in laughter at something that is logical and perhaps right. See you can convey a lot more if you don't type words and make sentences.

briefity is the sole of wit

23 hours ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

PFT commenter spells better than you.

I'd remove Dak, Cousins, Tyrod, Smith, Mariota, Winston, Wilson, Bradford, and Palmer

jus pulld qbr for the season. everyone above joe had better numbrs. but I judge joe by the eye test and he's not doing well.

22 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I think i might actually miss the delusion and grammar errors from someone on here.   But i doubt it.

im spellin better payin attention to red underlines now, but i'll see ya on anotha board. we have to to see how our pics outplay oz's pics.

15 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

The move to get rid of joe involved clearing 47m in cap space this year. That is not rearranging money, that requires a total dismantling of the team 

signin Jefferson and bwilliams pretty much put the kabach on the compre hensuv plan. we coulda done it. it wuld have been painful this yr fur sur but the pain is comin anyway. u gotta make bold moves to boldely improve

10 hours ago, The Raven said:

In seasons before 2016, I agree wholeheartedly, but in 2016, he had as much to do with his struggles as his poor supporting cast.  His footwork and throwing motion were the worst they've been since he was a rookie. His accuracy was poor. His decision making was awful. 

In 2013 and 2015, I gave him passes. But, in my opinion, 2016 was the first year since "maturing" where he really got in his own way.

his bess yardage yr last but he looked like a guy that had collectd

8 hours ago, Purple&Black#20 said:

Flacco didn't play any better those last 7 weeks, he has done what he normally  does. Every year snitch  the day we drafted him. He'll have between 1-3 games a season where he looks like a top 5 quarterback in the league and turn around the next week and stink up the place. Those last 7 games he played two of his best games all season. Against Cleveland (3 td's 2 int) who owns the top pick in the draft and only won a game last season. The other was Miami where he threw for 4 TD's and 1 int. Flacco threw 20 td's to 15 INT's last year. He almost average 1 int a game. Most of his picks are just bad throws and not a guy just making a play on the ball. Only consistency he has showed was he'll throw 10 plus picks a year. Hate me for telling the truth and here are some numbers for you....

 

Joe Flacco stats

 

Career stats

Year	Team	YDS	TD	INT	Rating
2016	BAL	4,317	20	15	83.5
2015	BAL	2,791	14	12	83.1
2014	BAL	3,986	27	12	91.0
2013	BAL	3,912	19	22	73.1
2012	BAL	3,817	22	10	87.7
2011	BAL	3,610	20	12	80.9
2010	BAL	3,622	25	10	93.6
2009	BAL	3,613	21	12	88.9
2008	BAL	2,971	14	12	80.3
Career		32,639	182	117	84.5

same as it evah was

7 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Don't you think its pretty ignorant to say this....in March?

Did Joe kill your dog or something?

joe kilt my roster

7 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

it almost feels like you want this to happen...

wuld rather have traded him and eaten the bad record this yr

4 hours ago, K-Dog said:

We should try to settle this before the boards close.

it already settld. isn't it a question of when?

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

r ball catchers were not good. not even sur how its subject for debatin. r we betta this yr? no.

13 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

If we are aspiring to be the best team in the league, then why can't it be easy to make the playoffs? 

The Patriots have made it look pretty dang simple the past 10-15 years. And I don't want to hear about the level of competition in each teams division. They are still NFL teams and they have owned their division year after year and have had great super bowl success.

 

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

ok then...

1) yes we have a bad wr crop and bad depth at the moment but i dont think anyone truly believes that oz and eric arent going to add more pieces (i personally am way more worried about fixing the oline than i am the wr corps)

 

we shulda resigned torreysmith, but other than him oz and decoste have no good record draffin wrs. we need big oline to. but some truly believe oz and decoste shuld not be makin wr decisons cuz addin a wr is pointless if they cant pic a good one.

6 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The slightest criticism is met a flurry of excuses. This thread doesn't really have an in-between. It's either people who really hate Joe or people who absolutely love Flacco and would go to the end of the Earth to defend him. Very few in betweens.

doan think fans will evah hate joe.  he was there in that happy time. I had high hpes for joe. I truly did. but you cant spit inta the wind. the wind tells ya somethin.  in my neck of the woods we have a sayin for raccoon dogs that cant get the job done.  that dog wont hunt

6 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

That's why I want to see Pitta cut. Joe just relies too heavily on him. I hated the contract to begin with, but now it's really becoming a detriment to the team. 

If Joe were forced to spread the ball around more heavily and not just check it down to Pitta at the first sign of danger, I think we could see a more 2014-esque season. 

ur gonna need gary kubeack for that

On ‎3‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 10:08 AM, Purple&Black#20 said:

I agree with trading him to Cleveland for both there first round picks. Just bite the bullet and move on. We draft Garrett with the first pick and Mike Williams or Cory Davis with the 12th pick because we didn't give Pryor 8 million for 1 year. Cleveland is desperate and probably will pull the trigger. Draft CB Tabor or Wilson from Florida in the 2ND and build the offensive line in the 3rd. The Brandon William deal is probably another set back. He should of walked and transition our defense from the 3-4 to a 4-3 defense. Jernigan is not a true 3-4 linemen. Mosley isn't a true 3-4 Linebacker because he doesn't blockshed well. 

                            4-3 Defense 

      Suggs.  Jernigan.   Pierce.   Garrett 

           Correa.     Mosley.    Onwuasor   

Smith.  Jefferson. Weddle. Tabor/wilson

Ravens defense would finally be back. 

with you on tradin joe. theres still a window, we need our leadars to be men of courage and have a comprehensuv plan. this is not jus about joe, but he is the tool to work this machine

On ‎3‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 7:46 PM, Virginia 55 said:

Flacco is 3 or 4  good seasons in a nine year career.  If he needs all those first rounders and talent to be successful at 120 million, then I wish we could trade him to Cleveland. I'm fully aware this is impossible, so the only hope we have is that he retires. 

it is much more than possible.

On ‎3‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 11:03 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

What don't you people understand... cutting or trading flacco is a 47 million cap hit that would force us to cut well over half of our starters and major contributors just to get even with the cap. 

We aren't just trading joe, we are dismantling the ENTIRE TEAM with this move and we aren't just getting rid of joe and drafting players, we would need to draft an entire roster over the next decade and have every early pick go well just to be competitive by the mid 2020s. 

the move to get free of joe does involve some dismantle and draffing hi with th e pics we get and our own higher draff position. but you picture it a much longer rebuilt than it will be. we must pic well but we will be pickin high. very high. we can be the bess team in the leage by 2019 2020 fur sur

On ‎3‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 11:57 AM, Purple_City39 said:

I don't think you get it.  Joe's 24M cap hit is destroying the team and the only way to fix it is to almost double that cap hit while he plays for another team.  With Ryan Mallett at the helm, and Cleveland's 2 first rounders that we'll spend on a DE and WR, we'll dominate the league!!!!  We'll just ask every other player to take a pay cut to mitigate Joe's dead cap hit and I'm sure they'll all do it with a smile.

/sarcasm

you say it but you doan understan it. 

On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 10:00 AM, Purple&Black#20 said:

Hue Jackson is the Cleveland Browns Coach and feels he can get the most out any quarterback. That's why I say cleveland would probably do it. 

cleveland is the one team joe can school. they are stil our oyster if we have the resolushion.

On ‎3‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 7:50 PM, frozen joe flacco fan said:

Your arguments are way to logical and objective! I agree with your assessment almost entirely but would add that Dennis Pitta was also coming off a dislocated and second fractured hip injury. Additionally, the O-line Joe has had to work with after the Super Bowl run has been slightly less than stellar. You will never convince his critics though. They will continue to produce stats that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Joe had a lousy, stinking year despite the fact he threw for more than 4,000 yards. Yes, his YPA was low this year but so were the YAC stats for his some of his receivers who couldn't catch a cold. I'd include Wallace, Aiken, Perriman, Waller and Moore in that list. The best play all year for a Raven receiver getting some YAC was the TD play that SSS made against Cincy and as you pointed out Steve is 37. Hey, maybe Justin Tucker should try out as a receiver, huh? He made some circus catches in practice at the Pro Bowl! The guy was non-chalantly catching one-handed and back-handed. Give him an O-line and you'll see the Old Joe Flacco back. 

prolly not joe got his check and hes more than happy

On ‎3‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 8:35 PM, Tank 92 said:

Yeah, I think Joe did fine considering the circumstances. He was improving all year while gaining confidence in his knee. If the Ravens can somehow find "that guy" in the draft, and/or if some of the underachievers already on the squad begin to produce The Flacco will be The Boss. 

joe has 9 yrs in and one time where he plays good for 4 wks. he stil has residual value cuz of that but we must take ou r profit on this stock.  it time to sell high and go back and buy low.

4 hours ago, redrum52 said:

Where would you rank Joe among qbs?  Who do you think is better than him?

for real?

matt ryan

tom brady

dak prescot

aron rodgers

dree brees

kick cousin

andy luck

matt staffords

ty taylor

andy luck

alex smith

marcas mariatta

jamis winson

phil rivers

russl wilson

derak carr

sam bradford

carson palmer.

joe flacco, joe is the holder of many many interestin stats none I wanna talke about here though. I want to trade him this yr.

aiken was nevah gonna be our guy. had a decant yr when we had nobodie but ya jus knew he and joe were not like peas and carrots.  now this said, watch him have a reel good yr with andy luck

2 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

that's all well and good but id like to know which offensive tackle they think is worth the 16th pick in a bad offensive line draft - this is the classic need problem again: you dont pick the position you pick the player - you could very well make the case that right tackle could be a great position to get sorted with a rookie but theres a big difference between an ok right tackle who you reached for and a dynamic edge rusher/corner/wide receiver etc. who also fill a hole but can potentially be great at their position

wat r u tryin to say.   I'm draffin a RT in this draff and garantee he wil pic it right up.

u cant draff like that. if ya wanna play th e draff game you have to make a list of ya 100 best playas to draff bpa or bap bess avail playa or make a list of ya top prospects at each position and set up ya draff by need.  y a cant put one name down. 

11 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I will agree he is a freak athlete and will likely be a good player, but based on team needs and the other prospects that could be available, I just couldn't fathom taking a TE. 

Pitta is still decent, Williams basically only played his rookie year and is still incredibly young too. Gilmore is a great blocker and a smash mouth TE but he just gets hurt too often and isn't fast enough to gain separation.

I realistically would rather hope Engram was there in the second if anything. 

50 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

need is a factor in establishing value on the board and therefore factors in to BPA - and with regards to trading tight ends away: why would other teams take our unproven tight ends when they know we will likely cut 1/2 at the end of training camp anyway... this paired with the apparent depth at tight end in the class

4 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I see a lot of people here saying he could be great but he doesn't fill a NEED. Since when do the ravens draft because of NEED. We draft BPA and Howard could be that. And if we have a logjam at tight end you can always trade those guys to right end needy teams. 

sheez, we restructure pitta, we got Gilmore, boyle Watson, Williams and wallar. and we need to draff anotha tight end? 

if we need to draff anotha tight end someon needs firing

On ‎3‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 1:10 AM, OzzieBisciotti said:

No, I don't see us making the playoffs this year- our offense is not good enough and avg joe flacco is damaged goods now. I say we try to get Kirk Cousins next year!

ya'd haveta take that trade straight up. at lease kirk can read a d

On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 4:19 PM, Ugly Ball said:

Hey Ozzie Bisciotti, If Joe's so damaged and Kirk Cousins looks so good to you, the Redskins are just down Rt 95 on the other side of the beltway.
You're welcomed to jump ship...

On ‎3‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 9:02 AM, kjbmore said:

Is anybody else worried about our offense heading into next season??

we haven't added any significant pieces so far, we have lost some guys who were positive contributors last season.

im not seeing any reason to be overly optimistic 

ya lose s.smith who was joes trustd ball catcher, ya let wagner walk and cut zuttah. pitta lookd about as quic as a fast Maryland box turtle. yanda is anotha yr oldr an will be as old as mangold when the season starts. one of our runnin backs is probated, the other is small and injured.  we still doan got kubeack bac. how can you not be worryied?

On ‎3‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 9:13 AM, K-Dog said:

Thank god the boards are closing. 

On ‎3‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 3:35 AM, Yatagarasu said:

I feel like Ozzie has a 50% track record on 2nd rounders. However, it's interesting that only one was resigned. Maybe Ozzie thinks 2nd rounders are just complementary starters. However, not everyone can get a contract extension if Ozzie keeps getting good players to keep throughout the draft. However, it's different to see Ozzie spending more money in free agency since the recent drafts haven't produce a lot of gems.

aint it the truth. 

oz and decost are like Memorex cant tell em apart and doan know who to blame

On ‎3‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 9:04 AM, ellicottraven said:

Short answer I really don't know. But, my guess is the front office especially Eric DeCosta has a good sense of other team's rosters and is very adept at projecting where teams may make their cuts. So my guess is the Ravens are confident that the losses can very easily be supplemented with cuts from other teams or in the worst case scenario they've a trade situation figured out if neither cuts or the draft work out.

4 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

Pretty sure Mangold is older than when Birk signed here and at 33 I don't see how he has anywhere to go but down. And do we really need to invest into another older injury risk player? 

think they be same age at bout 33, birk is 40 nows and he we had him for 4 yrs. 2012 last yr.  got to exam mangold and sign the man. gotz to

On ‎3‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 9:37 PM, rossihunter2 said:

quick question rayray... where did you learn to type so good?

in the army.  rifle malfunshion. hey jus so ya know if your needs draff has ya runnin back in third round if your top runnin back is avail when the ravens pic that's ur pic.  if the ravens pass him that still ur pick

On ‎3‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 9:37 PM, Martin Maryland said:

Here's the deal

Ravens get CB Malcolm Butler

Patsies get Ravens 1st rounder (#16) and the bag of properly inflated footballs.

dats what I'm talkin about

3 hours ago, Martin Maryland said:

We need clear starter next to Jimmy Smith. I don't know if Claiborne is the answer. I think we have plenty of depth CB's, but not a clear Solid Shutdown Corner. And even if we draft talented one, how long before he could make an impact? What we need is someone like Malcolm Butler.

agreeed. make it happen mm!!  16 game starta on the supabowl champs. make it happen!

ok ask any otha questions, if u doan get it.  I think its solad, I gotta go now and work on my needs list.

rayray

6 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

@rayray I think we'll just give you our phone numbers so you can just tell us what you're thinking man. Reading your stuff is mighty taxing on my tiny brain.

eraven you are a institushional you been here forevah man. I hear ya and I feel u pain. I read guys and thoughs they type well cannot understand a word they say.  so gonna take the pain to lay this contest out so all can understend.

we got pics in the

1st

2nd

3rd

3rd

4th

5th

6th

only

7 total pics. 

two ways to play.  1 bess available athlhete and 2 by needed position.  playas can chose one or da otha not both not changin

each playa by best athlhete post a list of 100 best playas

each playa by need post your officiel draft need order.  my is RT, WR, RB, CB, OLB, G, S and then you 100 playas grouped by positionin.

x'd this one out bran fart

now tackel and gaurd are only T or G.............RT or RG is not neded.

it will be good game spred the word

rayray

On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 2:04 AM, PurpleHorseman said:

Hey guys, and girls. I guess we can really go two ways on a mock draft. We could dry to guess  which direction management is going. And we can lay down picks we would like to say. I was so sure of our management before. I even believed there was a plan for Arthur Brown when he wasn't playing. But after getting all pumped up about their promise to build an elite offensive. Then letting Wagner walk while paying a NT. I don't know. 

 

Round 3) Chad Kelly. Ok this will probably get an otherwise model draft negged. Sorry guys but hear me out please. Chad Kelly has some off field boy stuff. S.I. did an Article about how his fights were overblown. He has a HOF uncle to keep him focused and straight as a pro. His arm talent is flat out top shelf. It is Aaron Rodgers like. He has an effortless lightning quick release and is pinpoint accurate. He adjusts his throwing motion when under fire with no loss of velocity and accuracy.

He scrambles and keeps his eyes downfield. He took viscous hits from the  crimson Tide Defense yet kept hanging in there throwing pinpoint precision footballs. Everybody I asked to watch a couple of his games asked "How come he is not the NO.One pick in the draft" Very very rare arm talent. VERY RARE! If he is flushed from the pocket he is a legit scoring threat. Hard nosed and competitive. Look what his teammates say about him. He is projected to be maybe a round 6 steal if he keeps straight. But I honestly don't think he gets out of round3. Round2 wouldn't surprise me. He is going to put on a show at his  Pro day. Scouts are shamelessly grilling his skill set because of his scuffles he got in. 

 

like some of ur pics horse but ya haven't taken into considerate will the guy be thre?  as for your strategy to find joes replacemant cant disagree with it. not sure bout kelly only cuz my draff doesn't focus on a qb this yr.  my qb of the ravens future is sam darold of usmc. he is the whamma jamma of all nfl francise qbs. now to play the draff game go to NFL 2017 draff and find th e thred helpin ozzie with th e draff.

3 hours ago, Tyler said:

Without Jacoby Jones, This franchise has 1 super bowl ring instead of two..... just food for thought. 

now doan be talkin facts to opinon ty, that can be confusin. myself thought jj was the mvp that game but u know

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 6:45 PM, usmccharles said:

Good god i cant even understand what im reading...and im from Arkansas

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 8:26 AM, rmw10 said:

I'll take the heat for posting a gif on this one.

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 10:05 AM, ravensnation5220 said:

Lol I wonder if he really thinks usmc stands for university of southern man California. Lol!

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 11:24 AM, jboy19 said:

Went to a party there once

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 4:47 PM, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

What part of Arkansas? I live about 20 minutes outside of Fayetteville. 

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 7:34 PM, allblackraven said:

To be fair, @usmccharles is a Southern Man and residing in California

On ‎2‎/‎28‎/‎2017 at 9:49 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Instead of helping Ozzie with the draft why don't you help yourself learn to spell.

On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 0:15 PM, January J said:

Maybe we can have a spelling bee instead.  

Lol all jokes aside I think this could have been a decent idea if it was presented better. Much better.

On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 2:49 PM, rossihunter2 said:

it would require a real long term commitment to itself lol

On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 3:55 PM, Ravenskid52752 said:

Im trying to figure this out myself like who let there 6 year old brother on this site lmbo! 

seems each yr we have more needs but right now we need a RT sinc doan belief lewis is the long term answer. disagreein with tryin to keep joe and build but if that is the real bad plan we need oline. u can nevah have to much oline with or without joe. so when the contest gets underwhey and we all post ou r top 100 for the draff I will be positioning for a 1st  pic right tackle. after that it will be a pass catchr and then a runnin back. my vision of the contest is you lay out your raven needs rounds 1 thru 7 and then say 3 comp pics positional. current n my case depends of FA are  RT, WR, RB, CB, OLB, G, S,  and from your 100 selected playas your top remainin RT is your pic in round 1.  or a playa lke oz in the front office can say his draff is best availible ahthlet and in that case the top aviabile playa on ur list is the choice. like your first six are gone your pick would be ur 7 guy on ur list but first remainin guy.  my draffs are nevah bess althete I will be goin on need which I suggest everyone do.  this will be fun and I bout garantee we will all beat out oz. I know I will. so start workin on ur pics. I got a CB this is gonna blow ur doors off and he will be there in round 4.

spred the news

rayray