RayRayRaven

43 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Everything he says is a contradiction

45 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

What about when you cherry pick flaccos bad games/stretches and disregard the causing factors and disregard his great performances? 

And then use that cherry picking to justify dismantling the entire team and destroying all potential to contend in the near future... 

that's cherry picking if I ever seent it

joey was we hav here is a failure to commicate.  there u is wiff a flacco avertar for ur posts and thars nothin I gonna say that gonna shak u from da 4 weeks in wintar. u know the wintar I talkin of that wintar of 2012 to the nex yr. i ignor that wintar as well as joes lastin Miami gm cuz if u base good joe on dat whos doin da cherri piccer? i base da joe trade on bad joe and bad joe is da joe we play most evah game includin 2008 ta 2011 when we had playas to pic up for em.  if you wanna ride wiff joe that ur thing but doan ask otha raven fans to agree wiff an ovah all losin bet cuz it easiar to replac one joe then a olin, rb, wr squd, pass rash and secondery speccly when u get ur identafied qb of da  futur

1 hour ago, Davesta said:

Um... jalen Ramsey is lockdown. He's a diva, but a lockdown diva lol

davesta wheres I come from they call that cherri picin.  see hows he choses one mnth to make his case ramsey was as a rook da 8 best corner givin up a qb 68percant ratin not 8 best rook cb 8 best cb now i know what u sayin u  sayin i doan pay no attentshon to figurs i go by the eye test and what sida the feild there qb is picin on well bro me to and gues where who they throw at?  that right mr yung.  was he an improv ovah write?  sur he was but is he r guy? 5 9 177 lb  hes not long for a season and they picin on him to boot if jimmi smith is ok yung will be hard pushed to start over car doan thing he will 

40 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

Moving forward, potentially and likely. But he was highly uneven through the first half of the season. In November, he had given up 61.8% of his passes and a passer rating of 102.9. I feel that he'll be closer this year to his terrific finish to the season, but he wasn't a shutdown CB throughout the season.

6 hours ago, -Truth- said:

I'm surprised to see Tavon Young be mentioned, but only because he already broke out last season. He was arguably one of the better CBs out there and quite possibly the best rookie CB from last year's draft class.

whoa

better cbs? best rookie?  whoa u musta rote that in a mrs cleo voic!

1 hour ago, Purple&Black#20 said:

Move on from Webb. We are drafting a corner in the first 3 rounds anyway and need to give younger guys like Canady more playing time. 

nah take him back if possble one of the big mistaks we make is thinkin a younger guy is gonna fill in for a vet. yr and yr and yr in and out they make that same errar

its da fog of football for me it was a explodin chamber riffle in the army some days are betta than others its betta in short sayins worse bringin it togetha.  u know oz is fightin with somethin simlar he nevah was a great o draffer but in his ole age the fog is creepin in and he's not much of a draffer at all. hell stay until he gets booted out its a lot a money for an easy gig. u watch he gonna trade down this yr less risk for spechly goin offense which he has to do.

therebe other board at least 2 big letter little letter startin one but afraid his head will swell for it best to go establised

2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

16, 47, 74 and 78. Last year, DeCosta's challenge was to have the most productive 4th round in history and I think the consensus is he achieved that. This year he needs to get 4 plug and play starters with his first 4 picks!

tavon young

chris more

alex lewis

will henry

dixon

well we did draff 5 4th rders due to trades and free agents.  think any of em will be resigned on volum sure r best 4th rd evah on quality not so much

oz Is all bout the trade down rather he stay and select but he luv to go for mid round playas this yr we need some gems so doan faver the mid rd strategerie

1 hour ago, sflegend89 said:

 

Disappointing. Hope he didn't fail his physical. Obviously still possible it's a money issue but doesn't bode well.

prolly didnt want to garantee his salary did the same thing with jake long last yr and he was signed and broke down.  still u gotta pay to play not altogather mad we may not sign mangold cuz I want the rebuilt afta this yr cant take no playoffs for so long

39 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I've actually been making that comment for a couple of weeks now - the Jernigan trade just added more confusion.

What direction do you actually see right now?  We've yet to really fill any long term holes other than Jefferson.  Carr is a stopgap fill in but everything else doesn't make much sense as they are kind of contradictory moves.  Why keep Pitta and Watson, and sign Woodhead if we're planning for the future?  That's where you let the young guys roll and see if you actually have a viable option for the future.

Again, I think the correct answer is always that you build for the present while also building for the future, but I don't see that right now.  I've always maintained that there's still a draft to go so things can always change, but I don't see a clear direction.  Williams is a very good player but we just invested $11M a year into a guy who mainly plugs gaps and stops the run.  I like keeping him but those aren't the guys you give huge money to.

In regards to Jernigan specifically, I think he's overrated.  With that being said, he's honestly probably the best pass rusher, including the edge guys, that we currently have on this team.  I'm sure there are some other things that came into play, which I've freely admitted, but on the surface, it looks like a really bad trade on our end unless more information comes out.

Meanwhile, our pass rush has gotten worse, the offensive line looks absolutely horrible, Perriman is now a #2 WR.  I don't think we should just go gung ho and get a guy to fill a hole regardless of price, but I do not believe at this time that we've been smart about how the cap we had was spent.

now dat is very well writen you have a way of sayin it nicely when it culd be sayed with more blame.  we gotz big big holes and they went combo plan get rid of some sign some to big big deals probs with oline wide recievar pass rush running back secondary is unproofed as a unit joe is joe

like the mangold visit we will see. wuld not have resigned willams or signed jeffarsen wuld have played what we have to carr is a guy that nevah been hurt if he stays solid he culd help he be obvous upgrad over tavon young but still not a coverge guy at this stage of careerr.  they got there eggs in the draff basket and improvment from past draffed playas.  doan see it jus another yr going by with us in the middlin or worst range

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

ozzie talking about high probability of free agents coming in before the draft suggests to me that nick mangold might have passed their medical assessments - i cant think of anyone else around the league who they would pick up who fits the criteria of upgrading a position and being a cut by another team rather than a true free agent

unless the imminent free agents coming in are re-signing guys like webby or doom then i cant really see beyond mangold

havent favord many of r front offices moves fact is they have been contrarys to almost all we need to do but mangold is there 1st move can say give them an A for tryin even if he injurs out.  way to go ole bald guys u can do it sometims

35 minutes ago, Filmstudy said:

I posted my thoughts on the trade here:

http://russellstreetreport.com/2017/04/05/filmstudy/ravens-trade-timmy-jernigan-value/

A few points:

• There is no guarantee on the comp pick round
• The comp pick would have been lost if the Ravens sign more FAs or potentially hamstrung the FA process
• The possible comp pick would have come in 2019, the trade draft capital in 2017, so there should be significant discounting applied to comp
• Jernigan played much higher leverage downs than Williams (80% of 3rd downs as opposed to 21% for Williams)
• The Ravens increase the chance to retain CJ Mosley, so it's a choice of cornerstone players

interestin story link it drips wiff suggestin harball can be lik his little brother some so jerigan fell outta faver?  this things will happen but agree that the ravens draft better defense than offense and they can get a jerigan replacement even if they nevah replaced ngata

6 minutes ago, SepticeyePoe said:

I was just about to post this. In addition to what you said, it's also unfair to Kaufusi when he was hurt all year. And it's kind of early to talk about resigning Lewis when he is entering his 2nd year. 

called lewis jones and doan care what they say he aint a starter and claimin it was a good draff cuz of him is why this thred goes on

40 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

I am getting really mixed messages from the FO this offseason. I see a lot of moves that are making the current team worse and seem to be more for the future(like this one) but then we are throwing money around in FA like we need to win now. I'd be fine letting the younger guys compete for roles and trading away guys for picks or to save cap if we are rebuilding. It seems a bit silly though to think these guys are going through a rebuild given the money we have invested in FA and the fact that we haven't made the playoffs in 3 of 4 years and those seats have to be getting hotter(if the owner has to announce at the end of the year that you are still around, that is never a good thing). 

Also for the record, I think the Eagles are a really good fit for Jernigan and that next to Cox and Graham with Schwartz as the DC, he can do really well for himself.

they got bilicheck cute id really like the mov if they went all in on comprehesuv plan.  the full monte rebuilt but as u say they paid for some free agent and resigned b willams truth is they r in limbo been so for a yrs now that shuld anser ur question to joey flex. not a fan of stanly not sayin he hasnt worked out jus sayin not a fan and he give joe that 2.5 secs which is good for the quik checkdown.  id have draffed the misissipi tackle playin for miami hell be better long term though we smeared em they got playoffs and we didn't joe didn't play anutha game like the miami game all yr

4 hours ago, Sami84 said:

if we were a really good team i'd have no issue with this trade..but we aren't..

 

truth is that i don't see where the sacks are going to come from, where the O line is going to come from and the WR core.

 

if you think the draft will solve this then you're all in la la land. Might get 1-2 good players and the rest...not good enough. 

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Well last year we got 3 starters and another very good young edge defender who looks to be or next starter. So your 1-2 good players assessment is pretty much baseless.

4 hours ago, Sami84 said:

taking quite a chance..most of the drafts are a lot less prosperous AND we had a bucketload of picks last year. This year we only have 7. 

Sammy u gonna let him get aways with that we draffed good last yr cuz we got three starters stuf? 

rd 1 wiff the what pic? u betta land a starter that's a given and no credit otha than Stanly played ok if he can stay sound all the betta

rd 2 project corea!

rd 3 no show kafusi

rd 4 did tavon to small for football start doan think so cring an this guy cant be on the field for us

rd 4 chris morre

rd 4 alex jones now he may  have started but less a miracel happens he aint getting resigned

rd 5 ken to much med dixon

rd 6 judon stil m y vote for best pic that yr

crimeny if we get another draff like this one we be superbowel champs again!

4 hours ago, Sami84 said:

if we were a really good team i'd have no issue with this trade..but we aren't..

 

truth is that i don't see where the sacks are going to come from, where the O line is going to come from and the WR core.

 

if you think the draft will solve this then you're all in la la land. Might get 1-2 good players and the rest...not good enough. 

u gota have a short memory to forget how this bored was all ovah jerigan as filin in for ngata he nevah was close or was b Williams. just not close and now they are happy as a clam bake we moved up in the 3rd and shipped him out. happy as a clam bake for 20 odd spots.  since I never like jerigan the move doesn't matter to me what has to happen now is a good pic at spot 74 an much less convinced they gonna get that right at his stage

8 hours ago, Purple_City39 said:

In all honesty, if the Ravens were stupid enough to cut/trade Joe with a post June 1 designation (if cut), they could manage it.  Don't down vote me just yet lol.  They could take the 6M in savings and not touch it, rolling it to next year to offset a little of that cap hit for Joe's dead money, bringing it down from 29M to 23M.  That's huge, but we did just see the Cowboys take a 22M cap hit for Romo to ride the bench all season.  Of course we'd need pretty good QB play from Mallet all season which seems laughable to imagine, we'd need an o-line that's the best in the NFL, we'd need to draft the best rookie class in history that all become day 1 starters, and then we'd need every starter to stay healthy all year...........

That said, this would easily be the stupidest thing the Ravens front office has ever done without question and would cause me to do nothing but call for them all to be fired and Bischotti to sell the team due to pure incompetence.  But in theory, there's a 1% chance it works out somehow

to be even about it we are in this mess cuz of the front office what they have had to say about it since 2012 has us where we r.  if u think this team is 1 draff from turnin  it all aroun mor power to ya.  this has been about damage control for y rs now

7 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Well, just to be clear about one thing that needs reiterating...

Tony Romo mostly sat the bench last year because he got injured in the preseason. If he never gets injured, nobody knows who Dak Prescott is. That takes an incredible amount of "luck" for things to happen the way they did for the Cowboys last season. There was zero foresight from the Cowboys organization that Dak was actually better than Tony and would have won an outright competition over him, so lets not give too much credit. I give them credit for drafting him and evaluating him the way they did, but not for some perception that they actually chose him over Romo, because that didn't really happen.

If people think they can adopt this model from Dallas, then they will be fools and they will fail miserably doing so.

Joe isn't going anywhere. It makes no financial sense. It makes no production sense.

sur the dallas pitcher does show u can ride a draff pic and eat cap it sur do all the way and thks for pointin that out mjacket we not goin afta dak we got an identafid target in 2018 cuz iits time and has to be done as far as ur other bad point im serreous as a hart attack.  joe is killin us and we gotta get the poison out. if ur up to it join us in the draff contest lets see who knows there playas

4 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

That is wrong. His cap hit is over next 2 yrs. what is this talk we couldn't resign players drafted last yr and this draft? I never said there wouldn't be problems if Joe was traded. It would take terrific drafts next couple drafts. And would have to get something significant for Flacco in return. Which really isn't very likely.

 

wiff proper timin it is over two yrs u gotta rememba the comprehsuv plan involve an idenified qb to replace joe.  that qb will be a soph this yr and may come out in 2018 2019 at latest where you are not on bored is what teams will giv for joe we can get two 1s specially if we defer to 2018 on the 1st.  certainly a 1 and a 2 but you gotta be willin to shop him next we will field a less competititve team perhaps to where we win the number 1 draff outright though i beleive givin a chanc to start ever week mallet will outplay what joe did and if he doan that sauce for the goose!  we will hav a harvest of pics to make in 2018 an 2019 an a qb target we will be rid of cap and tryin to fix what cant be fixed. corse you gotta draff well and we wuldnt leave that to oz an decost consider the hole they done dug

21 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Hasn't panned out... even though he won us a super bowl with a historic performance. 

The bengals are bleeding homegrown talent, they had high picks for the past decade and no qb to pay, now they're picking later and have a big contract for dalton and guess what... they're on a serious downward spiral

u kno that espn sports show 30 fur 30 that's a great show one of my favs is called 4 days in oktober bout the red socks comin back from 3-0 I thing they will one day do anothur called 4 wks in wintar it wil be the story of joe flacco and how with 4 outta da blue wks joe become the highest paid qb in the league with among the lowest productshon nevah to be heard from again the yardstic for measurin joe aint the 4 wks in wintar thats jus where he got paid if at this time i wasnt sure of how bad it is i wuldnt hav develpd the comprehensuv plan get ready to p lay the draff contest

12 hours ago, Willbacker said:

He's factoring in a post June 1st cap hit which would be 18.5 mil with a 6 mil cap savings. He just forgetting to tell you of the 29 mil cap hit that's left for future years which I'm not sure how that would be divvied up but it would cripple us for sure.

u pretty much got it look the bottum line is joe has not and wil not pan out 4 us we stil hav a chance to benifit from getting rid of him.  we will field a lessar team for a  cuple yrs but the draffs from those yrs will set us on r future

12 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

he doesnt understand, guaranteed money is guaranteed. you take a post june first and lower the dead cap for this year only, and were still well over the 2017 cap and completely crippled in 2018 when the rest of that 47m gets added.

nah not at all good teems like the bengals have been 30 mil under cap u gotta think jof it that way. doan be a neg nancy the key though is oz and decost cant be pullin the triggar on those juicy pics we need a comprehsuv approch and that includs dumpin the guys that got us in did fruit jam preserve

10 hours ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

I like your picture  and how it just so happens to be Black and Gold any reason for that RayRay? Just curious Did you know the Steelers wear Black and Gold? Just coincidence huh?

firs off that the sprecher root beer raven and the color aint gold its yella.  second off doan think the steelars are a good team and comparin where we are cuz weddle and mosley couldn't stop a 145 lb receiva at the goal line is not a benchmarc for how close we are.  the benchmarc is facin a bengels team that had their entire ofense out and bein unable to show up

bac to the steelars if big has ben retire they arent much at all but if he stays and that substance receiva come back and you know who I talkin about u relly think we gonna finish ahead of em?

9 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Not a fan of the Carr signing at all. He is an average player entering season 10. Ravens should of signed Claiborne. But have to take the chance on greatness and a true cornerstone player. Have to!!! With Jefferson and Weddle at safety Claiborne has skills to be a top3 cornerback. And give us a real cornerstone player on defense. I know he has quite the injury history but he has hit his stride and his latest injury was kinda flukish. If he plays most of th games and playoffs the ravens easily have the best secondary in the league.

im on board with the Jefferson signing. He is a a stud that is getting better by the game. I initially hated the signing because of ignoring the promised dominant offensive line. And his 4.75 40 and box playing style in a throw the ball league. However he clearly has the speed athleticism and instincts to play deep safety. By far he can. He can close as fast a earl thomas. If ravens play him at free safety he could be as good as earl Thomas and have 5 ints if offenses  feel like testing him.

I don't talk myself into liking signings or picks that I initially dislike only cuz he is a raven. But Jefferson is a phenom! He could be the best free safety in football if that is what ravens do with him. He closes like lightning and strikes like a cobra with top shelf football i.q. and instincts.

But I do not like signing Carr over Claiborne. Carr represents a hopefully solid signing to hopefully make secondary stout enough to do its part to make playoffs. Claiborne if healthy would make our secondary a no fly zone that puts the squeeze on offenses air attacks. And give the defense an identity until we find a dominant edge rusher. Carr is an upgrade but Jefferson could be the best safety 

anybody have any tips for navigating all 22?

i'm with ya cuz I thought we needed a coverge corner. carr had his day but we desparate need dynamic p layas

On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 10:28 AM, Purple_City39 said:

I don't get this line of thinking.  The 2012 defense was average at best all year.  The 49ers are tied for the NFL record for most points scored in a superbowl loss.  Did Ray not inspire the players that played next to him?  And will we also ignore that players have come out and said Ray's words don't do much for them?  I know Flacco himself has said it and he was the MVP of that superbowl run easily.  Defenders have said it also, like McAlister years ago for example.

Harbaugh's team won that superbowl regardless.  Only 5 members were part of Billick's regime (Yanda, Suggs, Ray, Ed, and Koch).  And we're apparently going to ignore the injured teams since Ray's departure that were a game short of being in the playoffs (2013), barely lost the divisional round to the eventual champs (2014), and heavily injured (2015).  Let's also act like the Ravens never missed the playoffs 3 of 4 years when Ray was rah rah'ing it up all game long and in his prime (2002-2005).

da difference was playmakas and finishin bend ddont brake now we got a bunch of d wonderin who wil make da play.  anyone thinkin the current d in anyways compares with the 2008 to 2012 d doan know football and shuld watch math wiz where stats matta

On ‎2‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 10:14 PM, frozen joe flacco fan said:

I find your post amusing. While Ray was not playing at full strength the year we won the Super Bowl and was certainly past his peak, he was an inspiration to his teammates on and off the field. That's an intangible. His leadership and inspiration was highly motivational for the team and they rode the crest of an emotional wave to and thru the SB.

As for John getting the most out of his players every week, he did just the opposite this year. Most of our fan base assumed we would be in the playoffs in 2016 and predicted a winning season. The team under-achieved this year and he failed miserably to get the most out of his players in the last four weeks of the season when our record was 1-3. With our destiny in our own hands and a record of 8-6 at the time, he failed to get the most out of his players in the last two weeks of the season. The truth is this. John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin are good cheerleaders but neither is a Top Five coach. I disagree that he would have his pick of NFL head coaching positions if he left the Ravens. Jim Harbaugh wasn't in big demand when he left the Niners. He might have his pick of cheerleading squads though.

ray ray was a motivata no doubt he struggled some in the champions game specially afta ngata went out but look at his denva game where he balled out.  opinonions really doan matta results matta but some l ike math wiz

On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 11:24 AM, Tank 92 said:

Yeah, I think the preaching and such may have helped the young guys for a bit when they first came on board, but after a while thinking it just became a nod of the head and jumping around, but not really listening. I remember Joe saying once that he didn't even know what Ray was talking about half the time. 

Ray Lewis was a great football player, but his motivational effects on the team were greatly exaggerated, not just by him but by others as well. 

yah heard branden willams tryin to motivate the gang a few times. was so bad made me cry

On ‎2‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 4:49 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

We have to blame people! Heads must roll!

yah but not lowly head its time for the French revolotuion

On ‎2‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 7:36 AM, berad said:

Agreeing with you up until this point.

The Ravens had a very good rate at avoiding 3-and-outs. Of their 192 drives, only 35 ended in a 3-and-out, which is an 18.23% rate and good for 6th best in the league (LINK). That's in front of teams like the Packers, Cowboys, Steelers, and even the Patriots who were bottom 6.

Also, the Ravens had a positive TOP on the year and were above-average (12th overall) for the league (LINK). The defense blowing leads had less to do with the offense and was more on their own failings. Losing Jimmy Smith really seemed to tank that unit and Pees could not adjust adequately - didn't help that some prolific offense came through, too.

the d suckd no playmakas late in the game always gassed outta fuel, alttidude and ideas all at the same time crash

On ‎3‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 9:14 PM, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

What Ray Ray had you cant teach....Heart.....its what Buck refers to as "want to", and an ibtangible we should be seeking in the draft....Boldin had it too

sur enough dem were da days cant get em back but wont forget em. chemistry is a wondaful thing its like fresh straberries you luckt  to have em even when ur pickers doan know how they got em

On ‎3‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 9:08 PM, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

 Eye downt no man. Eye jest seet hear n wayt fer a lowgecal xplanacin. Pleese halp

sur jus sayin has anyon evah seen oz and decost at the same time?  cant tel em apart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-IvTF0xUxM

On ‎3‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 9:12 PM, rossihunter2 said:

i jus doan no wat memorex is sposed to be...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhfugTnXJV4

On ‎3‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 9:18 PM, SepticeyePoe said:

According to my research, 

I guess he's trying to say Ozzie can't draft? I don't know...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG8K0yl4_hc

On ‎3‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 4:34 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

doan*

well doan think it will be periman he has showed he is a bit slow on the piccup and his injure past is always on ya mind. 

doan think it will be corea cuz he was ineffect on the edge and doan think he has nfl kalibar football sense or good instincs

doan think it will be max willams cuz catchin a ball is natural or is not max is a tweener right now. as far as TEs go guessin wallar rises most but doan think he is ready to score 10 tds either

kafusi is an unknow and he wasnt on my board last yr so cant say but doan expect much surpris me

jerigan nah little more than trad bait

branden willams gonna have a lot of pressur and jus doan feel it any more than already have

jeffersen is a tackler but doan think he gonna make anyone forget ed reed and weddle is a good tackler to its just coverage where we still have issu

car fits in with the the safetys jus above

stanly missed a mess of games he wasnt bad realy wasnt but this is the tellin yr is he solid and healthy well see

some are sayin like in the womans colome here we are back tops in the AFC north. I think 8-8 wuld be overachevin

16 hours ago, jdynamite said:

I can't tell if this is joke or what. It's very difficult to read too. 

 

1) the other Poster was correct you don't understand how trades or the salary cap works at all based off what you've wrote. When a team trades a player with multiple years left on their contract the team must still pay that player the remaining Guaranteed money, which creates Dead Cap.   

*need proof, when Ray Rice was cut after his ordeal and the team had to carry 9.5M dead money spread over 2 years. 

2) if the Ravens cut or traded Flacco today the Dead Cap would be 47.3M according to Spotrac 

3) Trades have nothing to do with compensatory picks and they never have! Compensatory picks are about the quality of Free Agents The Ravens lose vs the quality of FA they sign. ( with other factors such as contract amounts, performance based achievements ). 

** Lastly Texans and Browns deal to absorb the entire Brock Osweiller deal is rare in Football and should not be viewed as an option for most teams.  Basically like an NBA deal for cash considerations **

first off takin a cap hit of 20 mil with total cap what it is wil not ruin a team. both the bengals and browns have spent far less than that hit wich is really no more than a limit on spendin u know what i'm sayin spendin below total cap. god I hate this stuf.  so we start wiff that it is ok to be below cap.

so total joe dead cap for 2017 is 18.5 mil vary managaeable.

10 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

So tell us, what is our cap figure for 2017 if we trade joe? Like give me the current salary cap, and the number we would sit at after trading flacco. 

Give a definitive answer please, there's only one answer to this question, there are exact numbers that you simply add up one time to get an exact figure, so there's no way to beat around the bush on this question. 

Please, I'm dying to see you give concrete evidence with simple dollars and cents here. Just answer the question: what is our 2017 cap figure after trading flacco?

jus above check it out corse we have a hit in 2018 as well .  but they already takin actin to make it harda to do.  I culd manage this club much betta and I serreous. gonna proof it in the draff contest. spendin my avail time workin on my draff need by selction top100 play along gonna show anione can do it.

5 hours ago, ravefan52 said:

A little random... but they paid Flacco because every year in the playoffs he won a game and gave us a great chance to contend. We rarely lost in playoffs because of him. They need to get him back there with a solid OL and better targets.

the yanda is comin off shulder surgary you know the  y anda cant last forevah. not sayin he wont be good this yr jus sayin what are ya gonna do when the yanda time is threw.  hear ya but wasnt jus a good oline and the boldin. we also had a runnin back and a stingy bend don't break d. we got a lot of parts that aint the sames

9 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I think it takes a lot of work and effort to intentionally make yourself look like you're an idiot just for the joy of thinking you're actually fooling anybody.

Six months ago he was forming coherent thoughts in actually readable sentences or phrases. 

Its trolling 101. 

i have my good days and bad days but i nevah won a spellin B and unless i type one fingar at a time i doan prove read well. still i can pic a dang good playa and we gonna have some fun wiff the draff contestant

9 hours ago, Edgar said:

He's actually pretty clever. If you won't give him that, you will at least acknowledge his uniqueness.....

nope not at all but how smarts do one hav to be to see where ones been and say where you goin?

8 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

cant believe some havent figured this out yet.... and its not unique either -- its just a bad pft commenter impersonation.

 

Anyways, 100% agree with your take on the FO's plan on the offense, perceptions of the draft in terms of "strengths/weaknesses," and the emphasis on C over RT. Couldnt have said it better myself.

big letter little letter what is pft? but whatevah lets have some fun wiff the draff contest. get ur list ready jus rememba if you draff best avaliable playa you just need a list of 100 best to worst. if lik me you draff by need lay out your need list 1-7 we got two in the 3rd none in the 7th si my memory. so if you pickin a RT lik me make a list of your best RT's.  then in the 2nd if ur pickin say a RB list first ur fav runnin back.  it will be easy to score and will be fun.  i am stil workin on my list but i got a CB that is gonna blow them doors off