RayRayRaven

2 hours ago, ravensdfan said:

In three days hence, these doors will close

 

No longer here will we find repose

 

Sweet farewell to all members here

 

Each in their way are held dear

 

When other forum doors we knock

 

We will remain this Ravens’ Flock

 

So travel safe and well my friends

 

Sadly all good things do meet their ends

 

I’ll close with a line we’ve all heard before,

 

“Quote the Raven, Nevermore”

 

 

 

 

 

Impressive

1 hour ago, Wisdom said:

LOL, I could less about your feelings.  Get over yourself and move on!!!!   Go Ravens.

wisdom hope to see u @ scout, thar will be that small kore of FO can do no wrong at the low info fan site but you doan wanna go thar

7 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

We can agree to disagree on that.  If there were no good reason, then they wouldn't be shutting it down.

 

I will agree that it was a great place to bring Ravens fans together.  The site isn't going away.  Just the forums are.

mom u bean a good mod  an you guys kept the name callas from rulin the raven roost here.  prefer to make no censor and make fun of dose that are misleadin r team but those that will nevah figure a thing out for themselfs get to rude when they are being showed what they doan understan a thing or to. I went through the threads wich began in 2007 truth is the volum of post had dwindled down even by 2012 the champs yr. folks jus aint comin to post. thars a small kore of FO loyalist and smalla Kore of FO must go.  so all good things come to an end and Scout is there to continyou whar we left off.  but thank u and the otha mods for allowin fair talk now in the era of regress thars less fun hear and thats why its closin and we understan that.  we will have to talk with know lessars who thang we shuldna trade joe flacco and thats why the happy time is ovah and its the time of rebuilt now thanx for the memories

5 minutes ago, Dewy101 said:

I don't know why he gets thought of as a safety? Just because he hits hard? From what I've seen from him he rarely is lost in coverage WRs never beat him outright. He did have a habit of biting on some double moves but every college CB has that problem because they want to make a play. The Clemson tape there wasn't a single time where he was beaten outright. He was hip to hip. Mike Williams never separated at the top of his routes. Mike Williams got him on jump balls which is so hard to defend for any CB even in the NFL. He did get a PI call but it could've gone either way plus the safety was late  into the coverage. 

he was beatin by leggett outrite and was beaten by williams twice not in the picture. one poor throw long one short  but the wors part of that game was the numba of times he didna know his asignmant an nevah recognizin the end zone pic.  likd his tackle record vs washton though. he got college recardbook I gotz a hadeache and we gotz a problem

On ‎5‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 4:20 AM, arnie_uk said:

Possible players we could trade:

Correa 

Maxx Williams

Gilmore

Taliferro (sp) 

Carl davis 

All have their own issues and may be time for a fresh start. Be similar to the trade of jerrnigan

On ‎5‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 4:17 AM, arnie_uk said:

Both free agents

u com a long way arni and likin the way u thang.  correa wuld trade him in a ny minit for jags hurns heck id hav givin jerigan, correa an whoevah oz likes best in the 2018 draff for hurns.

40 minutes ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

I like the new crop of rookies coming in hot to push Zds and Judon, should be exciting to watch!

mose improvd?  gonna say judon or wallar not much room for othas the doghouse rb culd improv but the suspenshon wont help his chance

1 minute ago, Davesta said:

Can anyone make out what RayRay is saying? lol 

no but ill be at Scout all nex week

9 hours ago, Sami84 said:

Firstly, I said matt elam was an awful tackler from day 1. I was his number one hater. Anyone here can tesitify to this, even before he played a snap.

Secondly, every single scout, from NDT to PFF to walterfootball all say what I have said. Same with Vach Lombardi. HIs tackling form and his length is a whole different league to elam. Elam was pathetic, undersized with T-rex arms. 

5 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Exactly. People who thought Elams tackling was a strength did so bc they liked the splashiness.... the boom type hits. But he just wildly threw his body and came in wrecklessly like a torpedo.

Problem is he took way too aggressive angles and in the nfl was too small to destroy people so ball carriers just blew by him as he missed or bounced off.

Marlon brings the wood but does so with perfect technique -- exploding through the strike zone while wrapping up the legs, scoop and drop. Comparing Marlon to Elam is a joke.

 

For as stubborn as you can be some times, you at least tend to support your opinions based on reality. Thank you for showing some objectivity and calling out garbage when you see it... 

thaught u mite like lookin at some early words. way back machin didna come up wiff all the early gems startd by that guy poes but pg 77 and 78 of da in oz we trust thred is ammusin. so many postas were sensored in dat era the things so many sayed cant clearly be layed out now but dat poes was nevah wrong was he? wander wat he thang bout humpf

5 hours ago, Maryland said:

I guess I'll be moving to reddit's r/ravens subforum. 

There's a learning curve involved, but it seems like a decent forum content-wise. Plus I know reddit has other forums worth reading. Maybe I'll see y'all there. 

scout and reddit r the viabile optoins join both and see which grows best my opine here is to start at page 1 of this thread an link to the cites mentiond add each to favorights and join at ur timin.  at a glance u can see wich cites are bona fide and wich r gonna strugle.

well the mods that we have sometims bumpd hades wiff here do a gameday thread on scout. they are true raven fans and are relative broad minded to diveral opinon. we here hav waged opinon war and tho some of us hav been clearly more wright than othas on like wher da ravens find demselves and which playas hav been overdraffed and shuldna been draffed at all the mods here have general allowd da smartist postas who were wright most often to vocal thar diveral ops.  hostiles have developd in this exchang and those hostiles cant help but carry ovah to a cite run by postas that thang oz and decost can do no wrong and shuld stay, speccy when othas belief oz and decost must go before they sink us certain.  in the intarest of preservin bd diveralisty cites like Scout and Reddit shuld be favrd. Scout they are thar and it was the goin plac before here.  Scout for us

well the mods that we have sometims bumpd hades wiff here do a gameday thread on scout. they are true raven fans and are relative broad minded to diveral opinon. we here hav waged opinon war and tho some of us hav been clearly more wright than othas on like wher da ravens find demselves and which playas hav been overdraffed and shuldna been draffed at all the mods here have general allowd da smartist postas who were wright most often to vocal thar diveral ops.  hostiles have developd in this exchang and those hostiles cant help but carry ovah to a cite run by postas that thang oz and decost can do no wrong and shuld stay, speccy when othas belief oz and decost must go before they sink us certain.  in the intarest of preservin bd diveralisty cites like Scout and Reddit shuld be favrd. Scout they are thar and it was the goin plac before here.  Scout for us

8 hours ago, Sami84 said:

For the most part, I'm hoping that weddle is designated on his side of the ball as over the top saftey help to help deal with his one but really important flaw.

one really important flaw? jus one

8 hours ago, Sami84 said:

Disgraceful, if this board wasn't closing you should be banned, not for an opinion but simply this abuse of the english language.

8 hours ago, Sami84 said:

Positives-

1- Best tackler of all corners in the draft

sayed the same bout cleats and he has dat same run downhil but not uphil game.

2-Best screen destroyer of all corners in draft

when he doan get blockd and he a body throwa jus like cleats

3- Great Length and size

4- Short memory- doesn't get rattled

mayb calls out what am I suppos to do here to really scary

5-When the play is infront of him he's as reliable as they come

yah less thatg playa is quik

6: Jams receiver as well as any DB in this draft. Disrupts routes often.

yah he get in face and sometim gets his hans on da playa and sometims gets left flatfoot

7: SS and FS potential

thang u mean residual value somethin mayb he can do when he canna do the main thing

 

negative

1- Hip movement. It's more technique based than anything

2- The big one, when his back is turned his timing if off and doesn't have good awareness of where the ball is..this is when the ball is always thrown deep. If he was slightly better here he WOULD be the number one corner in the draft. For me, this is a BIG deal and the main reason why I had a second round grade on him. Along with tackling, deep man coverage is the most important attribute for a first round corner.

3- Sometimes doesn't seem to play to his speed because he doesn't use his hips right and some WR's will have a head start and better acceleration due to being running forward rather than turning. Needs to mirror and become more fluid in turning. 

 

overall- Seems likea a hybrid CB/SS. If he can improve his hip technique and man coverage he will not only stick with his man he'll be C-Mac BUT this has to be something which is a real priority for our DB coaches.

 

this is NOT matt elam . This is a guy that has a high ceiling but with some flaws that could have scared teams off drafting him in the first.  

 

the potenshal for position chg and tacklin is why you was quoted you call flaws and then sayed nevahmind them. I doan rememba you callin elams flaws before he playd nfl, you jumpd on the banwagon but thar was guys callin elam out befor he evar playd nfl and you wont one. opinon is one thang but good observshons come closa to facts. when someons talkin facts othas thang is opinon thats where the rubba meet the road

7 hours ago, Static said:

Anyone with doubt should watch Marlon shutdown this years #9 pick  by the Bengals. 

 

 

 

 

John Ross ended with 5catches for 28yards.

Look at 00:25. He put them PAWS on him. He didn't want it lol.

AT 1:02 he gets blocked from making the tackle but takes a good angle and affects the play plus keep John from getting the outside edge that he wants.

1:28 watch how well he mirrors and runs with that 4.22

 

 

The way he mirrors Ross at 1:02 is impressive. He takes 3 steps to get 5 yards out and Ross takes 6. Plus at the 5 yard line he still is a good bit a head of him.

u do realiz you are quotin a game team held to one td that d was all ovah them theres pleny of plays in dat game film whar ross has left humpf in his diaper and the qb canna get him da ball or threw it wild as sami say humpf can rely tackl though. humpf set a recard tackln in this game wil stand for yrs who did humpf beat out for da tackln record?

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Luckily for us, that has been our scheme ever since jimmy stepped up. Isolate jimmy and clutter everything away from him, tighten up windows and give safety help. Along with the occasional safety blitz/zone blitz/fire blitz

now we gotta sceam for our numba 1 corna. it might work if the rest of r d can play like bama vs washton

1 hour ago, frozen joe flacco fan said:

We'll just have to wait and see, I guess, but as my dad was fond of sayin "Wait broke the wagon down, son!" Thanks for the good feedback, RayRay! You're probably right that I was too generous for my grade on the defensive draft picks. I hope you're wrong about Humphry ' cause Matt Elam has been a bust. We need to get rid of him and Hurst the Worst. 

oh elam is long gone he made it easy for oz and decost he got caught wiff drugs. but for the drugs theyd stil be holdin him for potental cuz they picd him 1. unfortshonately im spot on bout humpf. the only guy on bama wiff less talant at his position is there no arm talant qb

7 hours ago, Raven'evermore said:

 I'm not what you would call a Shareece Wright fan, but when comparing him to Humphrey I noticed that they both have decent speed, Humphrey 4.41 and Wright 4.46.  They also both have trouble with the deep ball and they both hit hard at the line of scrimmage.  They only difference that I see (and I don't watch film much) is that Humphrey is taller.  Of course I'm not there on the field as is Harbaugh or Pees, but with all due respect, somebody tell me what am I missing?

On ‎4‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 7:10 PM, BmoreBird22 said:

I think he fully could play safety, but if you're a premiere corner talent, why would you play safety?

23 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Does anyone think he could be a serviceable safety?

anyways i was thar was in tampa for the national champship an watchd some guys play football that day watchd films of them befor and afta that game.  bama had a heckuv D the only thang they culdnt defend was play counts that climbd to 100 and top that was almost 2 ta 1.  theyd nevah seen a game like it that yr but for the champs game a yr earlier agains the same team  thars some good playas at bama and many of em r gonna play nfl football but the day of the champs game thar was one playa that was a fish outta water out there. he nevah knew what his role was. time afta time he stood out like a sored thumb. now they didna throw his way much cuz they didna throw to the cornar much put this playa did let in a long catch on a poor throwed ball and he PI'd on that throw. fact he PI'd on a cuple othas that wasnt review. he got caught twice for TDs on pic plays. the firse time ud think he learned but he didna now u can argue the zebs shulda called a fowl but they didna.  he got blowed off the ball sevral times and not only by linemans. wrs blew him up to.  he come up hard on a screen to blow up the ballcatcha but he drew air wiff a tackle reminds u of a florida gatar. he made lots of them plays in da otha films but he was surrounded by high qualty guys like Anderson a nd foster and fitzpatrik allan evans one guy i nevah saw much of in that game was nuther of r pics. doan think he played. anyways this guy that playd like a fish outta water was tabbed no draff on my bd. do not draff in any rd. do not draff if offered more pics do not draff with ur enemy teams pic like the steelers. do not draff if ur life depends on it. nevah nevah nevah draff and what do i  get hom and link to on our website when i get home Saturday?  what do i see that is beyon belief?  we the Baltimore ravens have draffed this no mindsat playa.  sometims life is jus plain redickulas. anyways if u have any doubt bout this guy heres the complete game. i watchd it again jus to be sur. the otha films made him look a lil betta but mostly gainst teams with less sceam. in the nfl they got lots of sceam but many of bamas rivels didna. now this is gonna be viewd as one guys opinon but thars not a lot of playas i give the don't draff tab to and like cleats elam he earnd it.  if u sayin he culd be a safety strong i wuld agree that is  his only chance but we draffed a corna and thars just nutin more to say bout that

2017 champs game and the wonderin corna

On ‎4‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 11:17 AM, 52520Andrew said:

Honestly I think the Ravens are still a year from having a legitimate shot at getting another super bowl. I think the defense is ready to go but the offense is going to need another offseason to get the talent in there. Should be real fun after that though

only a yr away wow think i'll wait til the team actuly gets in the playofs and makes it past a rd for I say the superbowel is here

On ‎4‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 1:36 PM, Deflated Football said:

We really just need to stick with veterans lol. Ozzie doesn't have an eye for offense (maybe every once in a while) like he does for defense, and we have anemic positional coaches. Just trade for/sign the Boldin's of the NFL. That's what Joe prefers anyways. 

well thats cristal clear he is strugglin some wiff defence to now

7 hours ago, polynesian15 said:

That might be enough, that's what we had during the last SB run.

Do you think Boldin, Torrey, Jacoby Jones, Pitta and Ed Dickson are substantially better than Wallace, Perriman, Moore/Camp and Pitta/Williams/Gilmore? I don't. Besides,Oz adds at least 1 pass catcher before the season maybe more. Sure you can say "but injuries...". The fact is they are a part of the game, can't 

Perriman gets a starting role this season, with a full TC, and will do tremendously well: 70-80 rec, 1000-1100 yards, 6-8 TD's.   
He got rid of his rookie jitters last year and will make an impact this season imo. 

The keys are: (adequate) protection by the OL, for Flacco to gain more confidence post injury, and for the running game to become a consistent, viable threat again. 

u wuldnt be the firse raven to misjudge boldin, torey and jacobys worth. biggar fish than you hav dropped that ball heck even kubiac culdnt get his head rnd jacoby

6 hours ago, arnie_uk said:

Yes the 2012 group was better and it isn't even close 

truar words nevah written

6 hours ago, atomicfront said:

Boldin hall of fame receiver in his prime.  Torrey first two seasons destroy Perriman (1696 yards vs 499 yards).  And Torrey had 1128 yards his third year. So you are predicting that Perriman in his third year breaks out and still has a worse season than Torrey in his third season.  Pitta was playing well back then and Jacoby was basically what Perriman was last year.  Plus you had Ray Rice who was good for 500 yards from the back field.  

ur askin periman to make a monument jump will have to see if firse

6 hours ago, polynesian15 said:

Agree to disagree. 

-Torrey has nothing on Wallace. 
-Jacoby = Moore (speed and inconsistent hands - although Moore might have better routes). 
-Pitta is still Pitta in my eyes albeit a step slower. 
-Dickson basically never caught anything - so maybe a mix of Williams and Waller (that's probably being generous to Dickson).
-Boldin never had elite numbers here, although he did provide toughness and clutch factor. Perriman will step up and Ozzie will add a vet.
 
That leaves Camp and Gilmore, who when healthy have provided plenty of upside.  

We need 1 (vet) WR and we're good - be that Boldin, Marqise Lee or whoever Ozzie manages to acquire.

 

torrey is stil young Wallace gassed out on us last yr an we need 10 tds from him wil he delivar? likely the only reason pitta is still a raven is the injury an joe gets use to a guy and pitta is his guy.  by know the front office has to now u cant take joes go to guys from him he doan adjust well

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Steve you pretty consistently create new threads, they always have picture examples, and they are always completely worthless. 

Sad thing, you're trying, you are dead serious. At least rayray is an obvious troll

ill cop to bein a troll if ull cop to bein the biggest homar to evah post anywhere when the rravens make good choices u wont here boo from me

1 hour ago, Steve0x said:

Hes watering a Philadelphia shirt. Remember LeBron James was caught wearing a YANKEES CAP? 

 

he is an he certenly is a trader

1 hour ago, arnie_uk said:

We can't trade flacco with his cap hit. How many times!!!

yah we can might as well afta that 1st rnder

1 hour ago, The Raven said:

There's always something, and it's always stupid, isn't it?

1 hour ago, Cville-Raven said:

you and ray ray should do a collab on a thread

thang he ment traitar but trader fur sur

10 hours ago, Maryland said:

Maybe... or maybe Ozzie is targeting Calvin Ridley for 2018 lol

9 hours ago, allblackraven said:

I know you're joking but he's only junior this year, may not declare.

I'd rather wait for Fitzpatrick (also junior) to pair him up with Humphrey again.

if oz is stil callin shots in 2018 its gonna be epic

re jethro ...an u shake ur head...an sayed its a shame

5 hours ago, frozen joe flacco fan said:

You're very generous! Giving the FO the benefit of the doubt, I'd give them a C at best. The defense certainly needed to be revamped and the draft picks we chose should certainly help turn around the D. Having said that, giving the FO a grade higher than a C is questionable, considering the woeful O-line that Joe has to rely upon. It is absolutely unbelievable that James Worst (I mean Hurst is still on our roster). I'm glad Zuttah was sent packing but our O-line has had no continuity since way back in 2012. The run blocking is marginally adequate and the pass-blocking is woefully inadequate. It takes a great O-line to set up long deep pass patterns and Joe simply  does not have enough protection to throw a deep ball to a wide open receiver.

It is disingenuous and ludicrous for the FO to say that in order for the Ravens to be more successful Joe Flacco needs to play better and yet to have failed so miserably to draft anybody of any noteworthiness on the offensive side. Two lower round O-linemen, neither of whom is a center, just doesn't make it appear that the FO gives a hoot about giving Joe the weapons he needs to be successful. For those uninformed fans who think Ryan Mallett can run the offense better than Joe, think again. When Mallett beat the Steelers, that game was absolutely a gift from the Steelers. In the 2017 draft, four offensive players were drafted after our pick number 78 and before pick 85 and two or three were wide receivers. It is obvious that Ozzie had no intention of trying to help Joe "play better". This draft definitely exposed three things about our FO - its apparent tunnel vision, its lack of objectivity and a draconian change in philosophy. Its time for the Wizard to get in his hot air balloon and return to Kansas before he wears out his welcome in the City of Charm. With arguably the best defense of all time in the 2000 Super Bowl year, Trent Dilfer had more dependable weapons than Joe Flacco has. They were Shannon Sharpe, Brandon Stokely, Jamaal Lewis, among others, as well as a pretty good return specialist, named Jermaine Lewis. We also had some stellar coaching on both sides of the ball in Brian Billick and Marvin Lewis. 

Our only hope is that the FO knows something that we don't know when it comes to signing some more players who are in the twilight of their careers but still have some gas left in the tank. Its a bandaid approach at best but its the only chance we have to be a contender this year.

So, the grade for the FO should be as follows: 

Defense - A

Offense - E

Average - C

yah by ignorin the offens they get worse than fail respect the E grad  the point bout holdin flacco accountible as they sayed and not givin him more to work wiff rathar takin some peices away from him is a thang thar is  a word for. its like whatevah. maybe they thang the wrs and tes an oline an rbs they have givin joe is enuff to get the job done. that it is on joe and not on them at all.  that sur looks like their plan. put it on joe hes the elephant in the room anyways and if he fail they gonna ship him off when the contract is done anyways. maybe they can buy mor time to milk the clock for themselfs u kno. it looks like there comprehensuv plan is joe is the scapgoat. convince biscioti joe didna get er done. as far as the Defence draff u r generrous. humpf had a ton of team aroun him and had the chanc to make team effort plays agains far less talant. thars a vid of humpf tacklin fournet that folks like to talk bout. fournet had a gap and humpf was thar its humpfs hihlite tackel and he barely got a guy with no whar to go. he tackles like elam and its gonna get interestin with nflers in space and nflers with quicks. bad pic no comment on the rest of the draff and cant rate the hole d draff but humpf was a no draff tab

2 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Wait - you said "I give up", yet posted 3 more times ... promises, promises. 

not gonna convinse u guys is all you gonna have to do it the hard way just like oz and decost.  if u  noticed have not had one critacle thang to say about the other pics have not responsive. this one though is not gonna go off without callin it out as killin us

4 minutes ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

Humphrey is the db we gave been waiting for to squash what New England does. Ozzie and the front office gets gold stars for this pick. Those who are giving us a B, are clueless. This will go down as one of the best drafts in our History, with Humphrey leading the way. Shut down corner on the short stuff, he will eliminate Edelman, and force Brady to try and beat us in other ways, while we pancake him on the blitz. I cant wait to see it. You heard it from me first. Defense wins Championships!

he wil be outta the league in four jus like cleats

maybe we sign him to five and exten the tormant  you can only grapple for five yards and if u thang humpf is quick doan worry he foold us to

3 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

If you think Elam and Humphrey are even slightly comparable that says all I need to know about your ability to evaluate players. 

Elam "could lay the wood" by launching his body into people. Always going for the highlight reel hit. But he took bad angles and never form tackled. Like never. 

Humphrey is as clean a tackler as you'll see at CB. Launches through the strike zone and wraps up the legs. Watch him tackle Fournette which most DL and LB's struggled to do.... let alone a CB giving up 45 lbs. 

Just stop before you embarrass yourself. 

u kno u are so wrong it says u shuld nevah have ur own bd itll take yrs to overcome this but tha silver linin is this is gonna be fatal we will get change afta this one otha thang bet I can find post of urs praisin cleats elam as the next ed reed jus like oz sayed

2 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

it's ok if you dont think marlon humphrey will be a good cb because we have marshall yanda in the wings ready to play outside corner in stead...

an david car who has nevah missed a game. 

u know it wuldnt be so bad if they missed with a decent pic but to pic the wors coverage corna in the draff makes heads explod

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Yea I've watched the film on him. And he was probably the best CB in the draft for a Cover 2 defense which we happen to play a lot of. 

Everyone always complains about our zone with the CBs playing 5 yds off the ball and always forcing the underneath stuff. 

We draft a CB who excels in that type of coverage and everyone complains. He is awesome with the ball in front of him and has plenty of quickness and speed to do so. 

Probably the best tackler of the CBs in the draft too. So he can close the underneath stuff and tackle immediately. 

Couple that now with a pass rusher or 2 that can hit home fast while just rushing 4 and you've got the recipe the close out the close games. That's the difference between 7-9 and 10-6. 

 

Our scheme (and safety help) hides his weaknesses and plays to his strengths. So he'll be put in position to succeed while he works on finding the football with his back to the QB. I bet you'll be able to count on 1 hand the number of times he's in that position this year. 

 

Have you watched the tape?

all of it and he will fail in monument way.  this elam all again. he was elimanated as not draffable and we made him our numba 1.  we made him r numba 1 we made him r numba 1 we made him r numba 1

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think he fully could play safety, but if you're a premiere corner talent, why would you play safety?

I give up 

all can say is my draff required a cb and humpf was eliminated in my cb slot thars nothin in his film or play to make one say he the guy worstest even he looks like elam comin up to make the hit on a low talent ball carier. omg

watch the jags Jalen myrick he will out play humpf. he went in the 7th round