RayRayRaven

21 hours ago, Somerset Ravens said:

Do you realize that if the Ravens traded Flacco it would result in a 47 million dollar cap hit?  Do you know what that would do to the team's roster?

20 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

How dare you!

dat cap hit is on a cut. this wuld be a trade.

On ‎3‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 9:50 AM, Wisdom said:

Nor should he be.  They all know the Ravens overpaid an average sub par quarterback. Respect is earned loyalty is returned.

but the fact is joe is the right qb for the right team.  a team like Cleveland for example. they need a guy like joe in the worstest way.  and we need two number 1s for him.

On ‎3‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 10:03 AM, Tru11 said:

U did wot m8?

rootbeer luv it and drink a mug most every nite sometimes with nilla ice cream

On ‎3‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 0:19 AM, ellicottraven said:

Sure if Myles Garrett miraculously slipped past 4!

On ‎3‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 4:55 AM, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Well given that the first two picks are literally the two worst front offices in all of football I'd say anything is possible. 

you sur you want to trade up for this myles guy?

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

it would be the best move tbh. unless derek barnett falls to 16 i think trade back should be our top priority. we can move back to the mid 20s to pick up a 2nd, and we can still land one of charles harris, tim williams, haason reddick, tj watt, or a cb like tre white or possibly even sidney jones or quincy wilson, and if were feeling like manly men we can take dan feeney and really bring a boost to our run game. no matter how we look at it, we could trade back to the mid or even late 20s and still get a guy at a position of need that would be going top 20 in most draft classes and pick up another 2nd rounder and maybe even a 3rd if team is desperate. 

a trade back could completely turn the franchise around.

trade up, trade back, what evah happened to stand your ground and pic well?

nah, get high nuff to not miss or trade far enough away to try and win with one pic in a slew

hates the way we do bussiness now

7 hours ago, RavenManiac#7 said:

I'm not sure but I think Correa's claim to fame last season was only counted as a half tackle. Ozzie just Has to start getting us some better talent in rounds 1,2 and 3. I love Stanley. Let me make that clear. But we haven't been getting Near the talent level we should be getting from our higher draft choices. Stop thinking too much, Ozzie, getting an extra fourth rounder by moving down the board so many times. Instead, stay put and draft better players. Those early rounds are supposed to be where you get your best prospects and guys that help your team get better. That has not been happening enough. Not Nearly enough. Honestly, just how many people had even heard of Correa and, even, Kaufusi before we drafted them? I can only hope that Kaufusi's lost season due to injury will get behind him and he will prove to have been a good choice. But when your biggest contributors tend to come from the 4th round, or later, it would seem that you are not drafting very well.

agree completely. we have been overthinkin the draft for yrs now. oz and decoosta play around with 1, 2 and 3 round pics like they are 4th, 5th and 6th round pics. they take their chances early rather than late.  it ain't rocket science oz. it football 4 cryin out  loud.

its gotten so bad we are yrs past these two correctin their problems.  its total rebuild now and we are in a position to do it if those two aren't tryin to save their skins and can admit to their bad years for us

2 hours ago, OzzieBisciotti said:

We should let Bisciotti draft- i guarantee he will draft better than Oz and DaCosta. Oz will draft two more tight ends and two more safeties and forget about the cb position altogether until the 4th or 5th round

agree. tune into the 2017 nfl draft gonna run a contest to show how bad our pickers have been. decosta sheez

8 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

I like (hope) to think we would of played a lot more inspired football and beat them had we needed to, the loss the previous week was too demoralizing and players didn't care , it showed.

yah that what harball said to. but the facts are usely somewheres further away than what harball says they are

11 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Stop it Sherlock!

11 hours ago, mg90 said:

Not that digging deeper is helping, but I'll shoot. How does your "6" key stick when up to that point you hadn't used it once in that post?

the ru ssians?  not sur key board can fire off almost any character.  its got a board in it and I spilled rootbeer on it a cuple times.

4 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

If you like not having 1st round pick @ 2018.  Then sure! why not

u r a seer

22 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

In one sentence please explain how you came up with this? Just one sentence please. I don't want to overtax my brain.

well t hat was supposed to be 5-11 r 2015 record but my keybord stuck and sticks besides it sure seemed like 5-16 didn't it?

folks think Antonio brown musclin over mosely and weddle cost us the playoffs. th e bangals had all their stars out and spanked us. was never close. we have a uge talant deficient with all the betta nfl teams. gonna take great moves to get us back. sittin on the 16th draft  position is not one of t hem great moves.

3 hours ago, robbie29 said:

All that math...wait a minute-

 

Is that you, John Urschel?

hes got a cuple problems and doesn't know it. hes talkin cut and his figs are wrong due to being lost some on  the trade angles.

we can definitely do this and may have to now sinc darnold may come out in 2018 and we need to be ready. this is not jus about tradin joe. if darnold waits til after his junoir yr to comeout, yah its easier, but it should be done now. eat t he dead money its the best way

theres givins. you know what I'm sayin?  joe is not a top flight qb. he just aint and he is 32 yrs old. when ozz paid him they really thought he'd win with any ball catcher.  clear as a bell now that is not the case. joe is a role player not a guy you build ya team around. and here are we payin him huge when the overall cap is small like hes that guy.  it cant go on. ya can't build ur team around him but ya can rebuild off him. second our team has badly gone south on over all talant. we got almost nada. talk talk talk abound signin Brandon William.  well we can't plain and simple. the free agent pierce more than fills the bill. these are the choices we must make to overcome signin joe and tradin him after those signins.  the third signin is one that will hurt but a trade lessens the pain in a cuple ways. we must get more talant and better pics. the plan to trade joe and rebuild on those pics and our own lesser record and better draff position will get us back to where we need to be in a cuple years. much betta than playin out a bad hand of joe limit cards.

8-8

5-16

8-8

60td 46 int.

joe has clearly let us know where he at. t heres no confusion on that. we need talant and have a joe problem but we can salve both with a tite plan and bold moves.

3 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

In "his world"  hes talking about some trade or some other non-sense that we get rid of Joe.  Its been explain to him its basically impossible numerous times, yet he doesnt even try to understand and clearly a troll.  He has no clue what he is talking about.  Quite comical. 

not even close. there is no gain without pain. all those that would favor as is see is the pain. the coach is coachin for his life. the gm is workin on his retiremend, the owner is smokin his cigars and hopin on his flacco  and they are all as happy as clam beds. they cant eat the dead money cuz eatin it is the pain and the pain would end their cozy numbness. the comfortable numb.  they can accept mediogre, but they can't accept disruptin their cozy cuz they built that. but there is a sivler lining. and it is the gain that follows the pain.  eat the dead money

matt elam. wow what a lightnin strike burnin down th e house. talk about being out of position. talk about him not bein able to tackle. talk talk talk talk talk. talk about him not being a footballplayer.  where was all this talk when we draft'd this munchkin?  everyones an expert now that he's a bust then a drug bust but where was everyone when he was drppin the ball at the combined?  where were ya then? where was everyone when that one postar calls him cleats elam and clank the sound of the ball off his hand? where was you then?  where was everyone when ozz called elam and asks him if hes ready to be the next ed reed? where was you then?  who seen the flim of elam body tacklin mississpi A and M 2nd division players? and droppin hte balls thrown to him? but best question is if he was a skillless @ any position, where was ozz and decousta?  whos droppin this ball anyways?

18 hours ago, Tru11 said:

yup dude played fs all of his rookie season and was nickle corner for a large part of his 2nd season.

but ofcourse to these guys its  all the same position lol.

 

9 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Yep.  When you have issues with the basic fundamentals of football, you're not going to be good no matter what position you're playing.  He was just a bad football player and there's not much more explanation needed, in my opinion.  It had 0 to do with what role he was playing, and everything to do with a lack of ability.

9 hours ago, Willbacker said:

And lack of common sense.

9 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

And couldn't tackle at any of them.

No evidence to suggest he would all of the sudden be a better tackler at his "natural position", which is obviously debatable as to what position that actually is or if it even exists in the NFL.

Regardless, guys that can't tackle and can't cover at any level are highly unlikely to be good defensive football players, regardless of what role it is.

53 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

Dixon was the one we got so RayRay WrongWrong again.

dixon not a bad player. he be useful. reminds me of Bernard pierc. which is to say a runnin back is jus a runnin back less hes in ray rice mold. jus sayin. lots of bad talk about us stockin compensation pics, the ones the league gives you if you lose a veteran to free agent.  me? rather keep the vet than get a dixon or sign a good free agent instead of getting a dixon, see what I'm sayin?

one more time rayrayraven is all about doin your job.  a back has to do his job. you go to work you do your job. you go to the store the checker does her job. you pic first in the draft you betta do ur job.  give rayrayraven 7 draff pics @ 16 on the clock and i'll draff ya some football players fur sur. wont need to stockpyle comp pics.  sheez if a picker drafts well you can't keep 12 rook pics anyways. no need for a  pichorda that can't pic!

doan think I can do  it?  tune into 2017 Draft board on t his site message group called Lets help ozzie

7 hours ago, Willbacker said:

No it'd be the column to the far right not the one yellowed. So that's better. Who we getting 2 # 1's and Sam Darnold from anyways? If Joe is worth that to you then why trade him lol? You totally understand nothing about the cap amigo. We stuck with Joe 2 yrs minimum whether we like it or not. Get used to it and accept it hahahaha.

not sayin joe is worth 2 number 1s.  dont believe he s worth two number 3's, but the 1s are what we can get for him. but its now or nevah. joe is jay cutler with a team superbowl. this card has to be played now. is there dead cap to eat yes. is it as bad as folks are layin out .NO.  there is pain but dumpin halfthe team is not necessary. dumpin some players is and is part of the plan.most of those players are end of career. many are easy tosses. this is NOT about next year. It is about a rebirth of 2008 in 2019 or 2020. we are not a good team and will not be better without drastic change of direction includin thouse that put us in this position. as they said in nam we are in a world of hurt lets come out of it bettr than we went in 

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 8:18 AM, Virginia 55 said:

I would love to see a poll of how many people today, as opposed to yesteryears, agrees that Flacco should even be on this team moving forward. 

 

The guy has been really bad.  He brings no outstanding qualities to the position.  His big arm comes to mind here,but he so inaccurate it doesn't matter.

I dont he's a tool to use now. we can rebuild this team without him and it needs rebuilded without or with him. but we kill ourselvs if we wait one more yr.  its now o r nevah.  the future belongs to the seers

you need to revise those numbrs. to show what his new team pics up in comin yrs.  its a good deal to trade him. we will take a hit but not what u yellowed. doan make me write the hole comprehesuv plan!!!  just know it involvs 2 number 1's for joe and sam dranold.

3 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Here's Flacco's cap figures and dead money situation after we signed him to an extension. Looking at it we can all safely assume that Flacco is going nowhere till at least 2020 regardless if he stinks to high heavens or plays like a super star period. All we can do is give him all the help possible - QB coach, Great coordinator, great O-line, great receivers, great running game, etc. and hope for the best! I think if we provide him all the help he can be a good QB in this league.

3 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

 

Here's a good article on the topic. Read it all the way through because its pretty interesting....

http://russellstreetreport.com/2017/02/26/street-talk/ravens-comp-picks/

we seen it. stockpilin pics and not really gettin much from em.  not a fan of having 12 pics.  do yur job. make your six or seven pics and pic well. you only get to keep 53 anyways.  pic fewer, pic wiser

6 hours ago, omar586 said:

wasn't elam switched? KC is another example. i think art brown was another too. waller has been playing decent in limited snaps.

yah elam din't make it cuz he was switchd

12 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Good god i cant even understand what im reading...and im from Arkansas

and usmc your name is a prophet.  university of sourthern man California.  usmc same place we find our savoir. same place we find sam darnold man.

sam wont be at this combined so don't bother lookin, but watch the nfl combined. its startin soon. great place to find sleepers and work them into your 100 board. this is gonna be fun usmc. this yr and next.

2 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

Sure, I'm going to spend a massive amount of time on a game with someone who refuses to spell our team's name correctly.  SMH!

well I identify the rayvans with me.  ray van is my name and football is my game. use to play it an know all bout it. but avoidin a fun and helpful contest based on a playrs name an fondness of linkin himself to his team by name is not very enlightened.  (Spell chec'd that word!)  it would be a helpful contest and I'm certain I will win vs ozzie newsom. quite certain.  absolutly certain. no doubt bout it. garanteed. that sur thing, but who can defeet me in this contest?  who has it better than me in draftin?  nobody!  garanteed  but the real benefitt is to demo good selection ability to help our team next yr after it is proved

I will start next yr...2018...the yr ozz and staff start to llook to this board with sam darnold. 

so  who wil go the extra m ile to help  our team.  who wants to help the rayvan ravens? this yr it will be a fun game, next yr it wil get serreous.

I would like this topic to be about two things. it should be about a fun contest between rayvan fans to see who can make th e best draft pics. it works like this. you lay out your draft board with your top 100 players. they are posted here with the timestamp an u can edit them all the way up to the time ozzie makes the pic for that round.  if your top guy is gone your pick goes down as the next guy available in your list. Even if the rayvans don't pick him, you get credit for the pick for your rayvan draft. Edit times are posted to so no past postin.  then as your pic'd player makes a team, starts and performs you get the glory of pickin him and tis time next year we can see who pic'd best and so can Ozzie.  we can have fun with our contest see who knows talent and if someone creams the draft even help ozzie if we can convince him to look here.  top 100 only. that's all you get to work with and if the top guy on your list is available when the rayvans pic he's on your team. we can do this and it will be fun

23 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Also.,.....Mangold was just released by the Jets

22 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

I hope not. He was so talented yet nobody kept him with his psychological problems. Now he is 33 and hasn't matured yet. Which says his problems are not young guy maturity issues but a genuine personality problem. I could deal with him when he was 28-30 and one of the best but at 33 and same issues no thanks. I would prefer Robert Woods or even Michael Floyd. At least his was a DWI that he can get over once he serves time.

rayvans need a whole lot of help. it sur would not hurt to get guys like mangold and marshall into camp for a look see.  begars cant be chosers.

On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2016 at 0:50 PM, ellicottraven said:

I was looking at a couple of threads of whether Correa or Perriman were busts or not. I decided to look back at the last 5 yrs of first 3-4 rounds picks of the Baltimore Ravens to really find out how we actually did and I was shocked. Here's the list starting from 2010 onwards:

Short of very few players like Mosley, Jimmy Smith and B. Williams none of the others have overperformed or if they did, they're all gone. I don't find this magical by any stretch of the imagination. Both Ozzie and Eric DeCosta along with the scouting team are complicit in the remarkably bad drafts. Definitely doesn't lend credence to the hype surrounding Ozzie's magical drafts or am I reading it all wrong? Please tell me we are still amazing because when I look at last year's draft ( the best in at least the past 6 yrs) I find there may be hope. Do we need fresh thinking or is Ozzie and gang still up to the job?

 

2016

ROUND	PICK	POSITION	PLAYER	COLLEGE
1	6	T	Ronnie Stanley	Notre Dame
2	42	OLB	Kamalei Correa	Boise State
3	70	DE	Bronson Kaufusi	Brigham Young
4	104	CB	Tavon Young	Temple
4	107	WR	Chris Moore	Cincinnati
4	130	OT	Alex Lewis	Nebraska
4	132*	DT	Willie Henry	Michigan
4	134*	RB	Kenneth Dixon	Louisiana Tech
5	146	OLB	Matthew Judon	Grand Valley St.

2015 and 2014

ROUND	PICK	POSITION	PLAYER	COLLEGE
1	26	WR	Breshad Perriman	Central Florida
2	55	TE	Maxx Williams	Minnesota
3	90	DT	Carl Davis	Iowa
4	122	OLB	Za'Darius Smith	Kentucky
4	125	RB	Javorius "Buck" Allen	Southern Cal

2013

ROUND	PICK	POSITION	PLAYER	COLLEGE
1	32	S	Matt Elam	Florida
2	56	LB	Arthur Brown, choice obtained in a trade with Seattle for the Ravens' 62nd (second round) 165th (fifth round) and 199th (sixth round) selections	Kansas State
3	94	DT	Brandon Williams	Missouri Southern
4	129	LB	John Simon	Ohio State

2012

ROUND	PICK	POSITION	PLAYER	COLLEGE
2	35	OLB	Courtney Upshaw, choice obtained in a trade with Minnesota for 1st-round (29) selection in 2012.	Alabama
2	60	T	Kelechi Osemele	Iowa State
3	84	RB	Bernard Pierce, choice obtained in a trade with Atlanta for 3rd-round (91) and 5th-round (164) selections in 2012.	Temple
4	98	G	Gino Gradkowski, choice obtained in a trade with Minnesota for 1st-round (29) selection in 2012.	Delaware

2011

ROUND	PICK	POSITION	PLAYER	COLLEGE
1	27	CB	Jimmy Smith	Colorado
2	58	WR	Torrey Smith	Maryland
3	85	OT	Jah Reid, choice obtained in a trade with Philadelphia for 3rd-round (90) and 6th-round (191) selections in 2011	Central Florida
4	123	WR	Tandon Doss	Indiana

 

Regards 2013 round 1 they done put the cuffs on him now.  yah we are strugglin for a reason

4 hours ago, Virginia 55 said:

Joe could have them both and still be terrible, because he only sees Pitta on the field most of the time. 

joe do like to "lock on"

he don't read a defense well never has but I watched ray lewis a football life again 2night and though joe certainly aint what they paid for we doan have near the team we did when lewis was with us. not even close

I'm really hopin we get hbo hard knocks. it will finally give us fans the insite into the backroom workins of ou r team.  wuld be imensily interstin