RayRayRaven

ya kno a good HC career in the nfl is about 10 yrs. he had some world class players in that time and few of them now. I hav outcoached harball my self for three yrs. but even if he is a mediogre coach, sometimes life tells ya its time for a change. jus like that

well one thing fur sur is that bicsiotti now owns it. he said we are sta yin the course and change is bad. he says we are one draft from turnin it all around. I don't think its gonna matter how we draft. it gonna be more of the same but bisciotti says this year comin is the y ear. so his decision to not make decisions is a decision and its on him now. he's said some head scratchers this year fur sur. puzzlements

kubeik s year was joes best? Kubeik proved joe coul d do it every year? omg joe had a 91 pass ratin a great play action pass game and still threw 12 picks. I feel sick and am goin to bed on this

yah and you left some solids out. when someon e looks at that roster and then our current roster is it any wonder

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if ya don't want to do it than it cant be done. but it can be done alrighty. those that say it can't are not comprehesuv plannin. they are evadin. and as I see it those that wuldnt do it now are sentencin the rayvans to a bad fate which is to play out the remainin joe years and then do the massive retool after he gone. but you read this page and some can't even admit mat ryan has outplayed joe by 10 rating points his whole career. one way is good one way is bad stickin with joe is the bad way.

I don't get it surihtanil. some here would say joe can't go, its a done deal, nuthin we can do about it. some say a fact is a fact, what fact? they cant add up the dead cap proper and see it can be done. there is always a way for those that have the will. the will is the problem. I think some here don't have the will to face the fact that dumpin joe before the deal is out is admittin mistake. admittin player misplayed. they would rather hold onto a lifetime mid to low passer rating joe flacco and miss the playofs for the rest of the deal hopein ganst hope the lightin culd strike in the same spot again. it aint gonna happen!

no wa y man we can unload the dead wood and make this work. its crazy to say we'd have to cut all and couldn't sign the juicy joe pics. crazy to say we are tied to joe like a hog tied to a rope crazy man to say our bean counters would lock us up so tight to a middlin qb we couldn't find a way to get out. crazy to say that' we have to play it out when we don't. the comprehensuv plan is the way out. I think its Quinn. he came from seattle and their D is double solid compared to two yr ago. our number 1 draftee a few yrs back Upshaw cant find the field. its Quinn and juicy pics.

I'd say tennesee makin off with all those ram pics a few years back ranks pretty well. dallas around 1990 got mutl picks for h. walker and though losing big turned it around in short order. what dallas actually got is over said but they had a comprehensuv p lan I don't believ we can compete with new England with our coaches but not havin the players like we did in the lee evans era leaves us no chance. we are in a good spot with joe. he has won a superbow and there are teams that will give a lot for a 33 year old qb on his homestretch. but I don't believ we are in a position others have been in with joe and that's a good reason for getting juicy juicy pics for him. and at a time when we are hurtin sorely for talant the timin could not be more ideal. sweet from sour, jus like that. by the way carr pretty much outplayed joe both games one immens the other he won two. this culd be the biggest haul evah for the rayvans.

yah but you goin back. on that roster were a bunch of stars and solid role players. you cant go back. joe can't go back not even to 2012. you can only move on. the huge dead cap hit by tradin joe this offseason is part of the comprehensuv plane. strong pic position and strong pics is the only way to get this team back. otherwis you got joe playin out his deal on a team without league class stars and play makers which is mendosa line from now until who knows when. we may be able to get even mor than two 1's from clevland but first you have to admit the problem. if he cant admit the problem he cant fix it. pitsburg is in the AFC title game.

luv ur posts, they are beautiful and smart. the best. luv the vids too. when we talk about joe we talk about one year or one throw and he has had a good yr and can make a good throw. but it s his body of play that comes up every time not enuff. that's the problem and the years make it clear where his max abilety is. we need sam darnold and we are near position to make it happin. if we act now

rooted for joe for years. thought he turned th e corner in 2012. he didn't. just would point out in the last meetin of the year dalton lacked most of his weapons. green, ifert, hill, givovana. dalton had a 101 ratin to joes 70. 8 yards per attempt to joes 5. we just gota trade joe asap our red riffle is sam darnold. it we don't go hard for him it would be a big big mistake don't think anyone hates joe. just don't want to endur his average play with elite pay smh and the horror cap probs it causes. the comprehensuv plan to gain from joes leavin is the sure way to turn us around and drink sweet lemonaid from a sour lemon.

fur sur yah but don't want two 1's from denver two 1's can be gotten

? whats dolon meme mean? the point was macjacet layed out how joe flacco is average and we are payin him large and fieldin less but give me a brake this keyboard sticks

agree when weddle bit on play action to get pitsberg back in the game good safeties don't do that. it was horrible. but truly believe cincy would have knocked us out anyway I thought we bea t the eagels well watch that bad bite up again and try to argue hes good. he fills the spot but it doesn't make us strong

well we played Dixon an d he did some good things. 4.3 avg isn't bad. not sure its playmaker good though. think he could have a better year at this moment I'm not excitedly about any current players. hopeful jimmy smith comes back and stays healthy but standin pat doesn't feel good with our crop of players. suggs hurt his arm but he seemed to fall off this year. joe is joe. I think our year depends on catchin fire in the draft otherwise standin pat look for more of the same next year.

bad news for zac worse for the rayvans. he was pla yin solid lb and we don't have a current replacment

sometimes you say the smartest things. those are the things I like to qote. yep read what little letter big letter said above. its part of the comprehensuv plan this is the most beaufitul smartest things I have evah read here. now we are stayn the course we are reliyan on everyone from last year and we weren't hurt but for jimmy smith wich probably mattered, but we were mostly health wise. joe was joe was joe. he still don't have his mason or boldin and joe will break you heart bitter. joe aint doin nu thin next year he hasn't done in the first four years of his mega deal. we can trade joe for value and we must. when you guys chip in with facts ike this it helps stevie b understand how to turn the rayvans around. and I thank you for helpin. two number ones for joe and draft highly during the dead cap years. now we must chose well and that is par t of the compre hensuv plan. we are helpin make stevie b great again to its a beautiful t hing no more mediogrity

its a good plan but I don't think they'll do it. theres only a few here that want to stay the course, unfortunenately stevie b is one of em. we have had bad dead cap for a ways now. draftin high for 2 years and getting juicy pics for joe would put us back on track. we can wade thru dead cap, done it before can do it again. we couldnot sign Williams, Jernigan and dummervil but that's fine. pitsburg has a heck of a oline now and their linebackers are bout best in the league. there you said it, t he rest was crazy stuf read what big letter little letter said above. the head to heads have little to do with which team has been buildin

if someone was tryin to tell me our bean counters signed a deal and or renegotiatad a deal to put the rayvans in a no way out situaton I'd be callin for a riot. that would be the close to treeson and as bad a job as could evah be done. course that's not what yur sayin right first about pitsburgh our bean counters cant really believe we are as good as them. we were built to battle them and know em well and its almost always a close game regardin how different in talant the teams actualy are. we have a better kicker t han them but all ariound the most loyal rayvan fan cant serioussly say we compare with them. they have had our number for many years now in acquirin talant. about the plan part of it involves fieldin a less stocked team for a couple years so yah we can eat enormos dead cap and make it work. yah da lemon is sour but theres a lemonaid reward at the end. its either that or be mediogre for years to come. it is a comprehensuv plan

kinda the speculation but if we had beaten pitsburg cinncy still would have creamed us. I rooted for joe but joey walnuts must go

timin is everything and we can't wait another year. we can have 5 high slot number one draft picks in three years by tradin flacco this year. teams will give us two number ones for him. clevland a team does have to have two high quality qbs as newsom says but a team also needs a high quality draft man doin his job

4 number 1 picks in two years is the key. what years is the question. we trade flacco to clevland we can get two 1's . clevland may negotiate some with the overall number 1 this year. but the plan involves getting our own red rifle, sam darnold who is our qb of the future. darnold will declare in 2018 or 2019, so we need to be ready to take him and the dealing joe to clevland puts us in good position both years, part due to a poor team from flaccos enormous dead cap dont foresee being able to get 2 first round pics for joe after 2017 so this is the year its now or nevah the plan does not allow for mis or overdraftin. or tradin bac. its not a plan for those that cant do their job

nuff sayd two number one picks in 2017, two number one picks in 2018 and then our others 2 thru 7 at high draft position. then in 2019 likely another high draft position for 7 rounds. cant be afraid of the boogeyman, unless happy with mediogre.

this is the key concern. joe was effective as a developin qb, never a burner, just a steady playin qb. he got paid and believe it or not he is starting his 5th season on the mega deal. his numbers which aint everything are not good on the new contract. he will be 33 this time next year. in fact today is his birthday. I know a lot about joe and though it will be painful in many ways the timin is perfect to deal him. if we don't deal him and build these next two years we will have missed a great chance to turn the team around. but to understand strikin while the iron is hot an owner would have to understand the team is slidin and he don't understand that. he thinks we are on the verge of a superbowl. he thinks we've drafted like banasheez and he thinks we make good free agent decisions. stevie b is standing pat