23 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:I'd be thoroughly upset because the value just isn't there.
Exactly
1 minute ago, PurpleHorseman said:Never said that. But whenever mentioned Matt Brady is better it is negged. I'll give you a more clear example. Nobody outside this board would ever argue Flacco is better than Matt Ryan. This is the only place you will ever see an argument for Flacco being better than Ryan.
Actually that's not true.
24 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:Said the same thing on the first page. He's easily the best coverage LB already, if he didn't have a serious injury history he'd be in the conversation of first LB taken. I'm not all that high on Foster, he'll set a physical tone, but I don't think he's got the instincts of past LBs taken in the top 10. To me he's not a top 10, maybe even top 15, guy in this class. If we want a Bama LB wait until next year for Rashaan Evans.
Yeah if Davis didn't have the injuries that are honestly a huge concern, he could very well go in the top 10-15. He's got dang good coverage skills, amazing instincts, he's super athletic, and he just loves to hit people lol. Of course he's got some things that need to be worked on but I don't see any huge flaws that can't be fixed. I think Fosters size could end up being a problem for him, especially if he's gotta go up against big guys like Gronk and Jimmy Graham.
13 minutes ago, rmw10 said:Once a decade? Kuechley, Mosley. The latter may not be at the same level as Foster could be, but I fail to see how he's some rare prospect.
Because he's really not...
18 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:Maybe in a future lifetime
Good for you
Jarrad Davis will be better than Foster.
8 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:Y?? He and Mosley would control the middle of the field like having 2 extra strong safety's. Making the secondary better and allow for exotic blitzing
I'm just not as high on Foster as everyone else I guess. Don't get me wrong, I think he could be a great player, but I also don't think it's worth it to take another ILB in the 1st round when we already have Mosley, it's just not that big of a need to warrant that.
3 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:Ravens trade up for Foster. My opinion the best player in the draft and the safest pick. once a decade player.
I don't care about the reasoning, this would piss me off.
5 hours ago, ALI624 said:Myles Garrett gets man handled by Stanley giving up zero sacks and zero QB pressures.
To be fair, Stanley will man handle everyone ![]()
2 hours ago, usmccharles said:McCaffery doesnt explode in the NFL like most think
Agree
3 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:Oh I don't think he'll be a bad player - the list is not guys who will bust per se but if he is going in the 1st round or early-mid 2nd which is where he's often mocked then I feel like it's a reach to be honest
I think he would be a good pick in the 2nd, for a different team of course. I think he could be a really dynamic playmaker, he just really wasn't utilized enough at UT.
57 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:Myles Garrett will be far from the best defender in this class
Will be a bust*
24 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:john ross
solomon thomas
dalvin cook
christian mccaffrey
taco charlton
obi melifonwu
alvin kamara
cordrea tankersley
kevin king
teez tabor
jordan willis
and every single offensive lineman taken in the first 3 rounds
will all be overdrafted
Why do you think Kamara will be overdrafted?
I've seen a lot of discussion about who everyone wants at 16, but not so much the other way around. In terms of players being commonly mocked to us, MWill, Barnett, McKinley, Ross, Davis, Reddick, Robinson, Lamp, etc, who would you be least excited for if we took them in the 1st?
Yeah, you definitely only like Watt because of his name. Smh.
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On 4/11/2017 at 4:34 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:Deal. Myles Garrett is a bust. Let the laughs ensue
This is probably a joke but I legitimately think there is a good chance he is a bust. I can't put my finger on it but there's just something about him.
With the 19th pick, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select...
Blair Brown
LB
Ohio
1 hour ago, Sami84 said:Can't see us going for interior D unless Jonathan allen somehow falls.
If Allen falls he's falling past us.
2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:Im a big fan of peppers so him in the second round is a steal, but the other 2 picks are staight aweful
I really don't think it's a steal though, it's where he should go.
42 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:I'd agree with that - as good as reddick is though I'm not sure I'd want him - can't really put my finger on why, replace him with Corey Davis on your list and id pretty much agree - maybe add takk McKinley and cam robinson and you'd be golden
Yeah I agree with you about Reddick. I think he will be a really good player, but I don't really care for him at 16 for the Ravens at least. I think he will be best suited as an ILB that can be a great blitzer, but I think we have much bigger needs. If we drafted him I think we would want him to be an edge guy, but I would much rather have a guy like Tim Williams if we want an edge rusher. I mean I could see the case for him, but I think there will be players available that will make more sense.
33 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:This post has nothing to do with WR depth. It has to do with you thinking the WR core isn't very good.
If we need actual DEPTH at WR, that means that you're looking to add a role player or a bench player to your roster. That's what depth is.
So if you think that depth is actually the issue, then no, it makes no sense to use a first round pick on a player who is depth. You use a first round pick on a player to play a lot, probably start, and be a contributor.
So make up your mind. Do we need depth, or do we need another starting-caliber player?
What the hell are you even saying. Your inability to comprehend his post is the real issue here. He is not saying to use his 1st round pick on a depth player. Just because we have two guys who are considered starters right now means we can't upgrade that position and make a would be starter a depth player? That's the best way to improve your depth in a position. The WR core is neither that great nor does it have great depth. The best way to improve that is to add a guy like MWill or Corey Davis and maybe add a vet after the draft.
7 hours ago, rmw10 said:Why is McDowell the hot name all of a sudden? I get we traded Timmy but I wouldn't read into things too much. Supremely talented player but a ton of question marks that come along with him. I would not be considering him at 16 at this point.
I think McDowell is a great talent, but he's one of those guys I just don't feel safe with at 16. I'm not really super interested in taking a Dlineman in the first to begin with. Even with Timmy gone I don't feel like it's an early round need.
On 4/9/2017 at 9:03 AM, BmoreBird22 said:I once heard teams ask REALLY weird questions. Like, a Giants representative once asked, "Would you rather kill someone with a knife, gun, or your hands?"
Definitely a gun
8 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:I've given this more thought... And.
What the hell were we thinking? He was our best pass rusher last season and a good run defender as well. Inconsistent as all hell? I'll give you that. He's not good enough to be a #1 pass rusher, hell I don't see him as a #2, but he was our best interior pass rusher by far. And not to mention we gave a boatload of money to a run stuffer who plays 80% of the snaps and that's it? I've loved all the other moves except the two on the dline. Adding Tony Jefferson gives us an identity on the defensive side of the ball, adding Carr brings some stability. Retaining Webb gives us a lot of good depth and potentially helps out versatility wise.
But it's one step forward and two steps back. It's a genius idea to trade away our best source of interior pressure for a move up in the draft while giving up a third rounder of our own(sarcasm).
All the meanwhile we've esentially destroyed the trenches on both sides of the ball with an upcoming draft class that's honestly piss poor in terms of talent on both sides.
Seriosuly, what the hell are we doing? I wasn't angry over the Boldin trade, I wasn't angry over Zuttah. But this pisses me off to no end because he's young, and I think we picked the wrong dlinemen to retain long-term. Jernigan is inconsistent, but when he's on, he's on.
Sure, you could argue that Bronson, Henry, and Pierce might be more than capable replacements, but I'd rather have stability. Ozzie goes out and does a damn good job with the secondary, but does absolutely nothing to fix our pass rush, and fix our offensive lien. Rather, he pays the wrong guy in Brandon Williams when we had a more than capable replacement in the wings with Pierce, who we clearly value given that he's likely the one who's gonna replace Jernigan, and trades away the starting center, let's the RT walk away, and does NOTHING to fix either line. And I don't trust any of these damn draft prospects not named Forrest Lamp on the oline.
Sorry, but I will not be surprised of Ozzie is canned next season: contreversial but true. I've had it up to here with him personally. I've like a few of his moves, but all in all he needs to get his head of his butt and fix these damn problems, rather than going out and retaining the wrong guy in Williams and neglecting to address our biggest need by far.
Screw you Ozzie. This trade is horrible.
....chill
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Shannon Sharpe, Greg Jennings, and Skip Bayless (although not a big fan) all stated Flacco was at the top of their list of 1st round QBs drafted in the last decade, over your man crush Matt Ryan. So once again, you are wrong.