PurpleHorseman

  With all the WR talk I'm throwing out a couple players that could be difference makers from the trenches. Kevin Zeitler is one of the better guards in the game. Harbaugh and Biscotti want an elite offensive line that moves opposition off the ball while having mobility to zone block. Zeitler gets the offense moving in that direction. With Stanley, Yanda and Zeitler the ravens are in the conversation of the best lines in the game. Throw in Lewis taking a step forward as an above average guard or RT. And ravens drafting an above average starter like Lamp,Robinson,Dawkins,Feeney and Moton that pans out in first 2/3 rounds and ravens are in business.

  Joe Flacco played his best football in 2012 playoffs and 2014 season when his line played like one of the best. He was a pro bowler in 2014 and the best QB in the game through the 2012 playoffs. Joe has the laser arm/accuracy like the top5 QBs in the game like Brady, Rogers, Luck and Bree's. He doesn't scan the WR's as  quick triggered as those guys and struggles when rushed. But when allowed to comfortably process the plays he is as good or better than the names mentioned. I apologize if that angers anybody. I know there are fans that would like to see what a new talent can do for us. But I think Joe is the prolific guy fans are wanting if protected. And if he is protected he will give it to those fans that want a high octane offense. And he only needs good competent WR's to get it done. My opinion.

  The second signing is a player with immense skill that will not cost a lot. Dominique Easley was derailed by injuries and squabble's with Belichick. As did our Adalius Thomas. He is a little mature now and injuries no longer effecting his play. He has his complete athleticism and explosion back. He is so explosive he makes Aaron Donald look like a plodder. Like Donald He is stronger than he looks to at 6'1 285lbs. He will not break the bank and somebody is going to get an all pro caliber steal with him. He is as big a breakout candidate there is.

  Easley playing to his potential could be that dominant defender of ravens tradition the team needs and fans want to see. Throw in a dominant draft pick or 2 like Taco Charlton/Hassan Reddick or Tim Williams/Baker  with Easley on defense. And ravens in a blink could be back to a dominant defense that intimidates the league like before.

Charlton is going to end up being a top10 pick. Especially if he runs and tests well at the combine. He is a freak with magnet like burst when closing in on the ball carrier. Think somewhere between a young Julius Peppers and a stronger more explosive version of Chandler Jones. Closer to Julius Peppers. He can play the line and stand up and drop into coverage. He is a rare freak athlete

4 hours ago, GENIUSofFF said:

Clarify,this is my post, purple showed me this website but there was some problems posting. While troubleshooting my account I used purples phone to post but forgot to sign him out. Sorry for any confusion. We agree on most things however. Like Walker behind one of most underrated players in this draft.

    While purple likes Judson, I think he is going to be a top 10 rusher this year. We really struck gold with Judon. I'm more right player right price fan. After winning the fantasy league for first time. Ready for   draft season football now.lol

Dude, I said a million times I think Judon is going to be really good. So strong and slippery. Just cuz I say we could use a young disruptive rusher to complement him. Doesn't necessarily mean I do not have confidence in him. I'm guessing 12-13 sacks for Judon this year

22 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm iffy on juju, I'm not as low on him as some but I don't love him, I see a third rounder and personally I prefer darreus rogers, his counterpart.

the LT from Miami are you referring to branden Albert?

Yep, couldn't think of his name for a minute there lol

15 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Not familiar with the late round guys but I would like this draft. Dan feeney is more my cup of tea as I think he's the best guard prospect since Zack Martin and I see Alex Lewis as a better RT, but I do like Robinson and love the idea of trading back to target a guard. Tre white is in my top 5 corners and i think he's really underrated but I think he ends up in the first, jourdan Lewis is really similar but I think he is more likely to be there at 48, I still like Demarcus walker and think he's gonna be a really solid pro but nothing spectacular, but he's such a gamer and so refined and savvy that I think he makes an impact, I like smoot and walker as well. 

I think we could find a better wr in the 3rd like rogers or Godwin, Taylor seems like more of a day 3 prospect to me, but to each his own, if you haven't already I suggest watching some of darreus rogers, iM not one to clamor for a boldin clone or compare every big bodied guy to boldin but I'll be damned if he doesn't look exactly like boldin on tape. 

Solid mock

You know something. I was splitting hairs with Feeney and Robinson. Next week I may go Feeney. I'm not sure myself White is there at this point. But if he is I think Oz and Biscotti race to the podium. I will check into Jordan Lewis and Rogers. It is so early in draft season. I'm sure all opinions will change some.

I like Lewis at RT. This is a little off subject but would you be interested in trading a round 5 pick or signingdolphins LT? I ask because he is only 31 and from Maryland. And he could play RT or Guard. Which would really shake things up some. BTW what do you think about fitting juju into our draft in round2 maybe3?

5 hours ago, thieverycorporation said:

So you'd have passed on Peyton Manning, or Jameis Winston due character concerns. Point is Westbrooks charges were dropped by the Police on both cases as was Winstons and Manning. Question: How does sexual assault not equate to domestic violence of the highest order. Judgement calls without all the facts rings hollow and provides a false narrative. 

I agree it happens. And it should be investigated before judgement. There are so many different instances. How many times girl hits boy. Boy holds her arms bruises girl. Girl calls the police. Is girl going to acknowledge it? Just because lowlife Ray Rice knocked his wife out cold. Then  looked as if he didn't give a crap. Like it's a day at the office on Saturday night. Doesn't make everybody who is ever charged a guilty lowlife. And the charges were dropped on every occasion.

Not saying he is innocent. I'm saying we should look into it. Would not want to overlook a potential perennial pro bowl talent for no real good reason. 

As for his talent he has speed similar to Will Fuller. But probably not quite as fast. Especially on breakaway long speed. But he is nonetheless very fast. However I do think he is a savvvier route runner than Fuller.

37 minutes ago, Wildabeast88 said:

So what CB or passrusher that we really need will we pass up for a position that is not a need. If you are talking an athlete at that position we have Waller who ran a 4.4 40.

We are looking for a triple threat at the position. Waller runs a 4.4 but is not much of a receiving threat. Tyrone calico was 6'4 ran a 4.2 but was not a receiving or running threat. Engram is  a football player. He can line up as Fullback but will have to be respected like a WR when coming out of the backfield. Or he will burn them for a TD.

8 minutes ago, raven94 said:

Correct, but contrary to your previous comment earlier, Engram isn't that good of a blocker. He will actually be a liability in any sort of protection capacity. so that does limit his versatility. I can cite about 6 or 7 plays in about 8 different games this year where he did a poor job of blocking and nearly got his RB/QB killed. However I do agree with you that his size speed combo on top of his quick twitchiness in space and elusivity makes him incredibly interesting as a prospect. He's expected to blow up the combine. If he does that then he may get viewed as 1st rounder.

I know he is far from a reliable blocker. But he has the size and skill to become a serviceable blocker. His size and skills are compareable to Hernandez who became a serviceable blocker. If Engram were to be a west coast fullback, he would be the first one as dangerous as most WR's. 

49 minutes ago, Wildabeast88 said:

That is what Juice does I know he is a free agent but the last thing we need is another TE/FB 

Juice isn't nearly the athlete Engram is. Engram is very elusive in the open and catches like a receiver can.

Engram is interesting. He could be lined up at Fullback next to running back. He could be a real weapon receiving out of backfield and blocking. Defenses never covered that kind of speed and athleticism from a fullback

He would totally roast LB's out of the backfield. He could be a weapon lead blocking for Dixon. He could even carry the ball to keep defenses guessing. Dixon and Engram in the backfield would create so many mismatches.

Then if Max Williams could ever get it together the ravens could run a very explosive version of the W.C.O. With a fullback far more explosive than any Fullback in the most successful WC offenses of previous. Engram could be as potent and productive as a WR from the Fullback position. Engram and Williams  would be quite a tandem at TE and Fullback. Then you factor in Dixon's receiving skills  and it throws a lot at opposing defenses to consider

I like Garçon and Britt. Would like them in ravens offense. Marshall not so much. Will be 33 yrs old and a headache everywhere he went.   You make a good point of Garcon and Marshall's previous production. But that is only one slice of the pie. We should take in consideration their skill set, system, QB and age. Then project them into the ravens offense. We don't want to pay for previous production. We are only interested in the player we think he could be with us.

Finding free agents that we think can perform better with us than their previous team is how we find bargains. Brandon Lloyd is a classic example of a player coming from seemingly nowhere to lead the NFL in yards. Many players that  burst into the spotlight on a new team site various explanations for their newfound success. All ranging from opportunity, coaching system, coaching, discipline,work ethic supporting cast and confidence. Joe Flacco is a superior QB to anything Britt has ever worked with. He is superior to Kirk Cousins so Garcon should see a spike in production to.

I like Garcon but I don't know the word on Washington bringing him back. Same for Kenny Britt. Marshall should be available. With his rep and age there may not be many teams interested. Then there is the  question  of Do the ravens want more WR's 30 and Older? Ravens could be interested in receivers that will play better in the next several years. As opposed to a temporary receiver

12 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I am a Dan Feeney fan, but I would never take him at 16. He will be a very good guard, potentially transforming the whole line. I would easily look to trade back into the early 20s and hoping for a 3rd to do so. The 4th is not worth it. 

I have hated the idea of cam Robinson but at 16, he might be BPA. Moving inside to guard could be a massive boost in value. Watch how he manhandled individuals at the point of attack. His knock is he has a clunky back pedal, move inside to guard and he won't be hindered by those pesky speed rushers. He will match power with power and he is savvy enough to deal with good inside rushers. Could be a home run. 

Can Robinson is actually a pretty safe pick. If he can't play left tackle or needs time to clean up his techniques; He could be a fine RT or even a  fine guard.

2 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

So the tackle market just got a little more interesting.

Ryan Clady and Kelvin Beachum are both now on the market as the Jets and Jags respectively decided not to pick up their options.

Brandon Albert is expected to be released today so Tunsil can take over at LT.

 

Are any of them enticing names for RT? I know Albert fell off in 2016 at LT, but maybe a move to the right could help? I honestly dont know much about the seasons of Clady or Beachum.... so genuinely curious.

If they could present a far cheaper option than Wagner, is it worth exploring? 

Albert should at least be able to play guard at a high level. Gives us flexibility on the line if he can play RT and Guard. Maybe Yanda could even play center. Yanda and Albert manning the interior could make for a nice veteran combo. Albert could actually really help.

Kendall Wright can get that early separation our offense needs for moving the chains. He is a wildcard because he can get deep as well. Really makes the defensive backs have to cover all the turf. Then Kenny Britt could be the big fast physical West Coast receiver.

Im not sure ravens could swing Kenny Britt and Kendall Wright. But both could have very prominent roles in our offense. Michael Floyd could be a cheaper option to Britt with similar skills. A 6'3 220lb WR that can get fast separation with speed and late separation with physical play.

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Engram has been one of my favorite players for the ravens for a while. He would fit in that pitta role like a glove and a healthy maxx as the inline TE would be a lethal duo. Engram is a big play waiting to happen, he's basically a more refined and twitchier and harder running version of ebron. He would be an elite security blanket who turns catches into big plays

6 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

I actually think that Engram would be fantastic especially since Maxx Williams is one of the best blocking tight ends in the league and I'm hoping he breaks out in the reception department. Would be a deadly duo. Also Engram may be there in the 3rd round depending on where the other tight ends stack this draft. 

I agree guys on everything. However somebody is likely going to take Engram before we pick in round 2. Max Williams and Engram would be tough to defend. I'm open to Howard in round1. He is as explosive as Engram and will block. He and Williams would be potent. Howard and Williams can block so coordinators could move them around. 

50 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

But Wallace wasn't the issue. The reason the offense was held back was because Trestman's playbook was a terrible combination for the personnel, running backs weren't doing enough to get a balanced workload during a game, and the team was relying on Steve Smith a 37 year old coming off an achilles injury and Perriman coming off of two torn ACL's. Your starting tight end didn't play for basically two full seasons.

Flacco coming back healthy and Perriman coming back and getting a full offseason for the first time his entire career is already improvement. After that the team needs to fill the Steve Smith void. After that the team needs to upgrade the o-line and running back (unless Dixon steps up). 

Wallace is not the issue. The team should extend him to try to lower his cap an extra year so it isn't $7 million. But cutting him leaves another hole to fill that isn't necessary when he was one of the few bright spots on offense.

I wouldn't cut Wallace unless we signed Britt. Ideally we could get Britt and Wright whom would outperform their contracts in our system. Britt and Wright can get early separation. If you watch highlights alone it isn't even close. Wallace Isn't quick in breaks on crossing routes. Wright and Britt are south of 30. Wallace is now 30 which doesn't bode well for a limited receiver and deep threat. If we want our offense to step into the top3. I don't think  it will be with Wallace as a prominent player. If we are happy with a top15 offense and a dominant defense then stability on offense is the calling.

18 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

The Ravens don't need him to be the best receiver in the league. The Ravens need him to make big plays like he did last season. He is a solid #2 in this league. The Ravens need a tight end who doesn't fall whenever he catches the ball 2 yards from the line of scrimmage and need a veteran posession receiver. Wallace isn't the issue. Getting rid of him adds another issue.

Would like to keep him. But not at the expense of not getting better on offense. I don't think he is going to be any further productive. And the offense isn't getting any better as your # 1 or No.2 reviever. An upgrade is needed somewhere and it isn't coming from Wallace. It would have to be Perriman or Moore maybe even a rookie which is no promise.

10 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Another year of Flacco throwing to mostly new faces... -Sigh-

I get the team threw more than most other years and that Wallace tailed off near the end of the season but he put up more yards than Boldin ever did here and more than Torrey Smith ever did in a #2 role here. I think keeping him is the right thing to do. He had chemistry with Flacco right out of the gate. I'm okay with them bringing in a veteran wide receiver to replace Smith because that is necessary, but I do think a huge reason why Flacco has struggled is his carousel of wide receivers and offensive coordinators. Looking around the league most the strong passing attacks root from the same system, same quarterback, and same wide receivers for multiple years. 

I also think Wallace has 3 years left in the tank at least

Wallace isn't nearly complete enough of a receiver for chemistry to smash the possibilities a more complete multi talented WR. Especially when taking into consideration what the ravens are wanting to do better on offense. 

Kendall Wright is a very quick slot receiver. He can get deep and make plays on the outside. On the right team he is a fiery competitor. He is like a young Steve Smith. Then cut Wallace and sign Kenny Britt. Britt can be a true No.1 in our offense. Britt, Wright and Perriman could be as dangerous a group as there is around the NFL. 

I think resigning Wagner is priority over Williams. As good as Williams is. It is important to support our franchise QB this year. Then we could work on defense and probably offenseive line in the draft.

Wright shouldn't be very expensive. He is a prime candidate to outperform his contract. Inconsistent coaching and QB play has held him back. Same could be said of Britt whom may cost $7mil a year. Even then he is a prime candidate to outperform his contract. He is as big and talented as any WR in the league. He is fast and can get early separation. Britt can run well after the catch and make big plays deep even while covered.

The offense could be really good. The trio of Wright, Britt and Perriman is special. Dixon is ready to take his step among the more productive RB's. One of Williams and Boyle should step up. If we can resign Wagner and add a really good G/C in the draft the offensive line will be set. Joe Flacco is poised to have his best year yet. Would this route be a good idea to follow?

Actually since we are talking team speed. A more complete plan would be Draft Hassan Razor Reddick round one. Then draft Tim Williams in the second if he checks out with a clean character and aces all the drug and interview tests. The alternative is trade back into    the first round for Harris or whichever speed rusher is there late round one. This is a rich rush class and we could take advantage with 2 explosive defenders. Reddick next to Mosley and Williams or Harris on the outside.

In free agency Dominique Easley could be the steal of his free agent class. He looks to be extremely quick off the snap. I thought I was watching Aaron Donald the way he was jumping into the backfield and bull rushing the guard. While parallel to the ground he got so low. 

That is injecting 3 explosive new ravens into our defense. The front 7 could look something like.

                   Jernigan Williams Easley

  (Williams/Harris).  Mosley Reddick   Judon

Reddick and Mosley could be awesome blitzers from the inside(especially Reddick). While getting depth in coverage like safety's. Very big intimidating hitters as well. Easley and Jernigan are very disruptive up front. A good amount of inside pressure in the QBs face. And we haven't even got to factoring in Tim Williams and Judon rushing off the edge. Interesting idea

Kendall Wright is a guy that gets fast separation. He can move the chains and can get deep.

5 minutes ago, gtalk12 said:

 

I like Minter

I like minter and brown but minter better. What would Minter and Dominique Easley cost?

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

Easley is an odd case.  There were a ton of questions in NE about his desire to play.  It's been reported that he's refused and skipped treatments, when many in the organization thought he could be back on the field.

I read his doctors and trainers were conflicting with the teams. Whoever he listened to it seemed to help him. I barely heard his name before catching one of his rams games. He wasn't showing any effects of a torn acl. in that game.

 I thought I was watching Aaron Donald. But it was Easley that was in the backfield in a blink off the snap. He looks likes 16 sack season isn't out of question.Should we at least bring him in for a visit and tryout maybe? I would like to watch Warren Sapps games in his prime. Compare how explosive and flexible Easley is to him. Because he looked more impressive than Donald. He looked like a safety when running longer distances. Could get unusually low off snap.

2 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Easley had major issues with Bellicheck who's usually willing to overlook them. Not a good look at all

Do you know how he got along with rams coaches? If he is having trouble there forget him then. If not it could have been an isolated thing with patriots. 

A Defensive Tackle caught my attention. I mentioned it in the draft section. Sorry about that. It was while watching a rams game on Sunday ticket. A tackle was jumping into the backfield off every snap it seemed. I assumed Aaron Donald of course. A favorite for DPOY. When I realized it wasn't Donald I was very surprised to say the least.

Easley was in the backfield in a blink off the snap every play it seemed. When I found Donald and realized the player I saw wasn't him I looked at Donald play for a while. While impressive he wasn't as explosive as Easley. 

As as far as I know Easley isn't a big name. At least not yet. I googled him and see he was cut by the patriots although he was really playing well. And he came off some acl injuries. He definitely was not showing any effects from injuries on that day. Could this guy be hitting his stride post injury? He looked to explosive for any blocker to handle. Is there any reason we shouldn't bring him in for a visit? If so what would he likely cost to sign him?