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    Didn't Woodson play SS?? Woodson should of been a SS long b4 ravens converted him. He always showed some deficiencies in coverage that his tackling and physicality overshadowed. The class of 83 QBs absolutely used to roast him. Marlon Humphrey's skillset screams SS. And an awesome one at that. As a SS he wouldn't have to do the things he isn't any good at. He is 6'1 and should settle in at around 215. Slightly smaller but as physical and far more athletic Kam Chancellor. No SS has the skills he brings to table.

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    10 hours ago, Davesta said:

    I would love marqise lee

    You know he is a free agent after next year. If Westbrook shows well like he should. He Is as talented as any receiver in this draft. I think he is better than Ross. Then Jags could trade Lee or Hurns. Lee is a free agent and Jags maybe aren't looking to pay big money. With his recent surge he could command $9-10mil per. Jags could look to unload Hurns and his contract as well.  However he didn't look as fast and explosive last year. A good player but not one fast enough he could weather losing a step. Hurns of 2014 2015 would be great. Lee is the more skilled player however. Once injury free he began standing out in that offense. However if management is to make a move it should do so early. If Lee challenges Robinson for NO.1 WR Jags couldn't let him go then

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    36 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

    I agree. However, I do think we should add Mangold and/or Dunlap. I like Siragusa but would rather see him at G. I also think that the team might like Lewis at guard(for some reason) and they think that sitting Siragusa and letting him develop into the starting C. 

     

    I actually don't have too big of an issue going forward. Mike is still a deep threat, and I think Perriman continues to develop. Likewise, I also think that Maxx shows up, and becomes a good option himself. I think Dixon, West, and Woodhead are good players. Maybe we think we can get a guy, (Brian Hartline, Andrew Hawkins, Stevie Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Cecil Shorts, hell, even an Anquan Boldin or Josh Gordon) that we think we can kick the tires on to be a third option, as Moore did not show much. 

     

    But I agree. I think that if we can improve the oline a little more, and we field an average  offense... We're a playoff team

    Mike Wallace doesn't have the speed at 31-32 whatever is that he displayed 7 yrs ago. Hoping max shows up and mentioning the receivers you did as helpful demonstrates how bad the offense is.

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    4 hours ago, arnie_uk said:

    Humphrey plays cb

    His skillset screams SS. Some of the best safety's of all time were physical cornerback converts. Ronnie Lott, Rod Woodson. He was picked on by better QBs and WRs last year. As a SS he will not have to play to things he isn't any good at

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    26 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

    I would've been completely happy with him at 16. Got him at 78. Steal of the draft so far imo. 

    Do yourself a favor and watch the sports science on him. 

    The explosive get off faster and more powerful than Robert Quinn, thighs as big as Arik Armstead while 40 lbs lighter, tighter/faster spin move than Vic Beasley...

    Got up to 15 mph in 2 closing steps to the QB delivering a punishing blow. 

     

    Im salivating. 

    Yes our best pick by far!! I was trying to tell Flex couple days ago how big and strong his legs are. I have to post the URL. But his legs are as big as a 265lb edge rusher. His legs suggest his frame can carry 258 lbs. nice round number. lol same size as Peter Boulware our last true speed rusher was about 6'3 1/2 258lbs.Tim Williams being more explosive than Quinn is saying something!! One of most gifted explosive edge rushers I ever saw coming out. Better raw explosion/bend than  Garrett!!

    Tim Williams could very realistically be better than Garrett. Crazy he was available there!! Makes Bowser obsolete. Should have picked JuJu there. Then this would be an incredible draft. I don't like Humphrey at cornerback at all. But I like the pick cuz I think when Weddle slows down Humphrey will set the standard for which Strong Safety's are measured

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    2 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

    THeres a difference between saying a pick was MY bpa... and being able to believe he was the TEAMS bpa.

    What dont you get about that?

    Changing your belief after ravens player picked?? Who are the players you think are the best or fit the best that's left on board?? Or you gonna wait til ravens pick and say he was the BPA . Who do you like best now that's available?? Who are the players you believe are the 10 best available with data you collected?? Not after ravens pick and say well this guy said he was a top 10 player. Who you like now?

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    Carl Lawson

    Tim Williams

    JuJu

    Ardarius Stewart

    Cam Robinson

    Forrest Lamp

    DeDe Westbrook

    Jordan Willis

    Dion Dawkins

    Darius Johnson

    Gerald Everett

    Dalvin Cook

    Malik McDowell

    zack Cunningham

    Taylor Moton

    Dan Feeney

     

     

     

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    2 hours ago, RayRocks said:

    Here are some of my top players available for the Ravens on day 2... let me know if you think I'm missing any others.

    1. Forrest Lamp  LG/RT - W Kentucky
    2. Cam Robinson, RT/G Alabama
    3. JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USC
    4. Tyus Bowser, LB, Houston
    5. Jordan Willis, LB Kansas
    6. Carl Lawson, LB Auburn
    7. Curtis Samuel, WR, Ohio State
    8. Tim Williams, LB, Alabama
    9. Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina
    10. Zach Cunningham, LB Vandy
    11. Pat Elfein, C Ohio State
    12. Chris Godwin, WR Penn St

     

     

    1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

    Tim williams

    carl lawson

    Forrest lamp

    dion dawkins 

    cam robinson 

    zay jones 

    tyus bowser 

    Malik McDowell 

    dan feeney 

    Derek rivers 

    juju 

    can't think of anyone else off the top of my head 

    and in that order. 

    I like dion dawkins a lot because I see him as a more natural RT than either Forrest or cam

    Good job guys. I see not many members are participating in this. Because then can't say whomever we pick was the bpa. Most members are going to wait until the ravens pick then proclaim he was their Best player ravens could pick. And will help team better than anybody else

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    Everybody list your 10 best players in order that will be best players and help ravens the most. Here's everybody's opportunity to say you believe ravens pick was the BPA and best player to help ravens the most. And so everybody can't say ravens pick was the best player after the ravens picked him. Who are your top 10 players next 2rounds. If you don't say it now then nobody should believe you when you say it after we pick him

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    6 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

    BPA 

     

    Rueben Foster or Oj howard. Or trade back and take T.White.

     

    Dude some people here are going to say anybody ravens picked was the BPA and attempt to justify it. Every player we pick was the best possible pick ravens could make. It's actually funny

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    18 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

    Well the fact that draft day it was reported that teams have Humphrey 2 and Jackson 3 which was surprising to most.... and by gosh, Humphrey goes 5 picks after lattimore, and Adoree goes 2 after that --- seems pretty legit.

    Yes because Ozzie drafted him. Not everybody has the biasedness for Bama. Most teams after us probably liked different cornerbacks. If we didn't draft him can't say he would of been next cornerback drafted. I have read posts here calling about 5 different cornerbacks the best in the draft. Humphrey isn't one of those cornerbacks. 

    Anybody saying he was BPA or best cornerback show some proof everybody you have Humphrey so high on your board. After ravens draft him everybody goes on an Easter egg hunt looking for somebody calling Humphrey a top10 pick. Show us anybody posting about that before last night. Show us a mock on this board with him the No.2 cornerback taken. 

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    1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

    Yeah, anyone who watched Alabama knows he struggled to turn and locate the ball. You're not bringing some new revelation by posting the exact same thing 10 times over.

    Some people nievely think he can fix that and turn it into a strength. Not a learned skill. Have it don't have it.

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    39 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

    his stock didnt plummet. Walter, Charlie and Ian Rappaport all report the contrary... and considering they actually talk to the teams, and you dont im going with them.

    Albert Breer also did a piece yesterday morning about 10 things hes hearing leading up to the draft... and one of them was -- Marlon Humphrey and Adoree Jackson are going to go ALOT higher than people think. They are the #2 and #2 CBs on everyones board.

     

    But hey, the whole league is wrong.

    Prisco said scouts saw serious deficiencies. And when he talked to his Bama mates younger cornerbacks outplayed him. And QBs actually picked on him because the younger cornerbacks were better in deep coverage. And that is fact. He gave up 19 ypc and was picked on after the younger guys held up better in coverage. GMs send out smoke screens all the time. But the Bama coaches do not have a reason to. One of those guys put Corey Davis late round1!! Since his college coaches see the action close up I'm going with what those sources said about Humphrey.

    it is mind boggling how many people talking themselves into Humphrey was BPA. These same people would be saying same thing if Howard Allen Njoku Harris Watt were the pick. Only bird22 can honestly say that. Nobody else put Humphrey over any of those players until the ravens drafted him. Some people on this board are so full of it

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    19 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

    Ozzie admitted, in not so many words, that he wasn't the best talent available. 

     

    "He was the best player that we were going to take" 

     

    This means that players with injuries (Foster, Allen, Mckinley) and players with character concerns (Foster, Conley) were off our board. 

     

    We didn't have Howard rated higher because 

    1. It takes a long time even for pro-ready TE. See Tyler Eifert. See Zach Ertz, Eric Ebron

    s We have a lot of TE's and while none of them are reliable, we invested draft capital and aren't willing to give up on them. 

     

    After that, give me a player who was better than Humphrey that went. I doubt you can. 

     

    Not a good challenge here!! Find one player better than a cornerback that can't play with his back to the football??It is very likely several cornerbacks drafted after him in rounds 2-3 or later will outplay him. Much less players from different positions. And I don't care the position. TE whatever a difference maker is a difference maker on offense. We don't have a clear starter at TE much less a difference maker. TE's aren't ready year one but Humphrey is a project as well. For those of you that believe he can get far better with his back to the play. You people aren't scared to say that cuz you all won't own up to it on RSR or wherever using a different name. One of those everybody lauding the pick then if he busts nobody ever liked the pick to begin with. He could become the best SS in the league but as a cornerback several drafted after him will outplay him. 

    Look everybody not saying I hate the pick. I'm very excited about what kinda Strong Safety he will become!! Best in the league is my guess. But as a cornerback he scouts found serious deficiencies in coverage and said younger Bama cornerbacks outplayed him. And some QBs actually picked on him after trying the underclassmen who were far better in coverage intermediate and deep. I like the pick I don't love the pick cuz I preferred an offensive difference maker. He is an incredible specimen. I think he will be a great great player but not as cornerback.

     

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    31 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

    They wont get past the line of scrimmage....

    Seriously?? Tell that to  the WRs that averaged nearly 20 ypc on Marlon Humphrey

     

    1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

    no one's moved him up the board but no one's going to not support the guy who comes in to be a raven - ive always said the only guy i wouldnt be able to talk myself into would be taco charlton

    I don't talk myself into liking players more because we drafted them. A player is what he is. 

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    34 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

    Well considering everyone constantly complains about our CBs always playing 10 yds off the ball, that technique would actually fit Humphrey brilliantly. When he keeps the play in front of him hes an absolute game changer.

    Hes perfect for a Tampa 2 or Cover 3 type defense which we employ a lot of. And its not like hes going to be thrown in the fire immediately. Plus you absolutely can be taught ball tracking. Some of it is innate that you have it or dont.... but a team doesnt miraculously go from worst in the league for INT's to best by accident. We did bc our secondary focused on it and practiced tracking deep balls. 

    He'll improve with good coaching.

    His skill set was very much lauded early on in the process. As i remember it was almost unanimous that he was the somewhere from the 1st-4th CB in the draft depending on preference, and it wasnt until the Combine and Pro Days that he suddenly fell out of the conversation for some reason. Looks like for the teams, his stock never dropped.

     

    And now we dont have to hope that a good CB falls to the 3rd round (they wont) and we can scoop up a 1st round talent at pass rusher or OL, maybe both with our next 3 picks.

    Tim Williams and then Dion Dawkins and ill be as happy as a pig in you know what.

    Any 2 of Tim Williams, Carl Lawson, Jordan Willis, Tyus Bowser, Cam Robinson, Forrest Lamp, Dion Dawkins, Dan Feeney, Pat Elflein, Juju, Godwin, Zay Jones, Cooper Kupp, Ryan Anderson, Ahkello Witherspoon, Teez tabor, Fabian Moreau, Sidney Jones, etc... etc....

    We have 3 of the next 46ish picks. Were in very good position.

    Ravens pick pick 16 in round2 so many of the top players left will be drafted. There was no hoping a cornerback falls. Several are going to be there in round2 and 3. Matter of fact so many cornerbacks that several of the ones drafted after Humphrey will likely outplay him. Especially with his issues finding the football. His stock has plummeted lately because of it. His size twitch burst was coveted by the scouts. But when his tape was more closely examined his major issues jumped out of the screen. And those don't go away. It can get better a touch but not by much.

    Ravens got better with ints not because players learned to play with their back to the ball but we brought in tavon young and Eric Weddle. And a coverage linebacker stepped up. Ravens need an edge rusher so that Humphrey isn't roasted while trying to cover all day with his back to the ball. We need a WR and serious offensive line help.

    As for Humphrey's draft stock. Prisco said he talked with his Bama sources. And his deficiencies finding throws is very legit. And the younger cornerbacks at Bama were outplaying him because of it. That is a fact. However doesn't mean he is totally useless. He can play tampa2 and SS. Could eventually become the best SS.

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