PurpleHorseman

Expecting something for nothing is a reason the ravens don't have any playmakers

Very tough to say. A player that definitely showed well even with bad QB play and a terrible offensive line that limited routes. He could maybe cost as much as Sammy Watkins. Would be ideal to get him for a round3 but could cost as much as a round2 pick. He showed very well especially considering the offensive line and QB.

No, he plays far faster than his timed speed. He said in his interview he lost some weight and plays at about 205lbs and said he feels so much faster. I'm I remember correctly he was hobbling when he ran that bad 40 time. He is very fluid, has instincts and can find the football while making very athletic adjustments. He should challenge the top free safety's in the league. I like Arizona's coach. However I don't think he realized everything Jefferson could do. When a player is undrafted he really has to prove himself every step along. He was already fast enough but if he did get faster he may be a better free safety. He can do it all!! Cover tackle, top shelf instincts, play shallow and long when he has the opportunity. His best play is yet to come. He was thought of as a round1 player until combine.

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I completely agree. Bowser has to show the toughness and physicality to not back down when punched in the face in the NFL. As in fight through blocks and get back up after being blocked by a guard. Humphrey could very well be a bust as a cornerback. But I think he will be very good as a strong safety. Problem is there is no opening at safety with a tandem of some of the best in the league. Once Weddle shows his age he could play SS while Jefferson plays free safety. With Tim Williams Mosley Jefferson Young and Humphrey the defense could be hitting stride again. On its way back to the ravens defense

I never cared for Arthur Brown. Very good athlete but never displayed toughness for the NFL. He ran around at Kansas looking good cuz of his athleticism. But you are right he wasn't football smart and didn't have much passion. But he never displayed toughness it takes to play in the NFL. A good tackling cornerback could of made 90% of his plays. There was a reason he was available in mid/late round2. The NFL collective obviously didn't think he was as great as ravens management.

Come on who are you know kidding?? Wallace is a 31 yr old one trick pony. And Perrimans routes are terrible!! He doesn't play to his timed speed not even close. There is no suddenness, disguise and craft to his routes. He can make some acrobatic catches. But he doesn't show the suddenness or craft in his routes to ever be a consistent high volume playmaker. Like somebody that can catch 10-12 to grind through a tough game. If we have that much confidence in our defense do you really want to be 8 games into the season and realize the offense sucks?? Get to the playoffs and lose because nobody on offense can consistently make plays yet again? Like in 2006 and 2008 where defense played very well the run game was working but our playmakers were no match for the oppositions playmakers. A round 2 pick really isn't a lot to trade away. Ravens have not done so well drafting receivers and using its round2 picks. It wouldn't hurt to trade for a Sammy Watkins And trying to short change the position isn't cutting it. Trying to trade a round7 pick for a Chris givens isn't doing jack for the offense. Of course somebody significant like Sammy Watkins and Marqise Lee are going to cost something to obtain them.

Marqise lee is a huge upgrade over anything we have. His routes are awesome. He fell behind very skilled WRs in their own right while injured. But really came on last year even with bad QB play. Westbrook is very good. Many feel better than John Ross. If he didn't have any drama he would of went in round1. If he shows well One of Hurns lee will be traded. Jags will be getting that cheap production from him. Don't think jags want to pay 3 WRs over$10mil per.

Of course, people obsess over things people don't have. Observe the excitement over finally drafting an explosive edge rusher. Ok multiply that by 1000 and that explains the obsession over a legit WR

Strong has shown very little. Grabbing cut WRs compounds the problem. We need to pony up for a WR in his prime with legit potential. WRs get cut for a reason. That extends the problem and next thing you know it's misdeason again and you realize offense sucks and is holding team back.

Dude his skillset screams SS. Everything he can do very well is what you want in your SS. He will redefine the position better than Chancellor. It's not only members here saying that about him. ESPN analysts, NFL network analysts and even PFF said it. Watch his highlights which are his best plays. Many of his plays the WR dropped the throw and he partially faceguarded while he got in the way of the throw having no clue where the ball was. And that was with a ferocious rush behind him and less than NFL quality QBs throwing to the receiver. His int's aren't very impressive at all. Not saying he can't get better. His deep coverage while needing lot of work for a NO. 1Cornerback is exceptional for a SS. Not many SS can be matched against a legit WR at all. As a SS he will be a perennial all pro.

If bills ever decided to trade Watkins I'm sure every wr needy team would bid. He would cost a round2 pick at least!! Many teams will feel he has a lot of potential. He has shown a lot when he played. And many feel he is held back by Tyron Taylor's sandlot football style. He is a massively skilled receiver. Look what Hogan could do with a pro QB in a real NFL offense!! He was a No.4 WR there and an afterthought. Look what the USC WR got on the open market. And that is because many feel he has great potential in a real offense and was being held back there. I woud pay a round2 pick and some change for Sammy Watkins in .04 seconds!! Allen Hurns and Marqise Lee are good options as well. I would probably prefer Marqise as he is faster and shown the best recently. When the Jags see how good Westbrook is it could be very open to trading Marqise or Hurns. Westbrook could be the steal of the draft. I think he is better than John Ross. He and Tim Williams should compete for steal of the draft. Could be best players at their positions. Anyways Watkins and Jags WR's are definitely our best options. Nobody else has high end NO.2 maybe even NO.1 WRs at their disposable. I really like Boldin but not interested in bringing him back at 37 yrs old. Victor hasn't done anything in like a decade or whatever. Fact that fans even talking about them dudes shows how little confidence there is in our WRs. BTW Correa and Max have very little trade value.

Williams is a phenom. Think Bruce Irvin with far more moves and a more natural and tougher player. Bowser I'm a touch skeptical.

While Tim Williams is my favorite player in the draft it matters if the tackle was any good. Bad balance can make an awkward tackle look pathetic. You would never see him do that to Stanley unless he gets significantly bigger. Tim Williams needs to become a complete player. Not only talking about setting an edge but reading offenses and keys. He needs a lot of time in a film room with Mosley and Suggs. When he becomes a complete player is when he is going to be a gamewrecker. Knowing when to rush, set an edge, stunt, drop in coverage. If he were a more complete player he would be a top 10 pick even with previous failed drug tests.

Wallace isn't even close to fastest 10 players in the league. He isn't anywhere near as fast as he was in 2009/2010.in his 30's now