Molson Man

I can't stand fans and media that say we were inches away from the playoffs.
As I remember it we were inches shy of beating Pittsburgh but far from the playoffs. We did completely get blown out by the Bengals the following week. So that's one lose and a few inches away from being tied with the Steelers. Wake up we aren't that close in fact we could be getting even worse next year you never know.

  1 hour ago, Que3pi said:

who cares about throwing for 4000 yards when you can't hit wide open receivers or get the ball down the field. that's like saying a RB rushed for a 1000 yards but averaged 2.0 yards a carry. I would like someone to list Flacco's strengths, because putting in extra work sure isn't one of them

I have to get anew TV. I did not see a wide open receiver in 16 games.

You need glasses sir, a lot of open receivers but Flacco became the king of the check down. Most of the time he was one read then check down, by the end of the season Smith Sr. And Wallace were being just lazy on routes knowing Flacco wouldn't even look at them. That doesn't happen unless you leave people wide open a lot.

  44 minutes ago, donkeyking64 said:

This offense probably had the most playmakers in the history of any Ravens offense.

Steve Smith Sr
Mike Wallace
Breshad Perriman
Kyle Jusyczk
Terrance West
Kenneth Dixon
Dennis Pitta
Darren Waller who probably outplayed Max Williams in his small handful of games compared to Max's 2015 season
John Boyle never does bad things when he's on the field

What more do you need. Josh McDaniels, Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, Gary Kubiak - all those coaches would kill to have this personnel. These are coaches who are accustomed to playing with 3rd and 4th stringers or castoffs that wouldn't make starting lineups anywhere else. In fact, if Crockett and Ben Watson don't get injured, some of these guys would have been playing key downs for another team

In my humble opinion, that's more than enough talent to move the ball and get 1st downs. Any high school coach could dial up some plays against the most complex Rex Ryan or Chuck Pagano defense and still manage to convert 3rd downs.

What the heck more do people want on offense

You may need to elevate your thinking as to what true "playmakers" are cause ONLY Steve Smith, Sr. fits that description.

Wallace leads the team in 50+ yard receptions, that sounds like a playmaker to me. Kyle is the best fullback per pro football focus. So I'd give him three on his list including Smith Sr.

I guess we are a perennial loser now. Decided that we love -4 yard passes on 3rd and 7. We hope the fans are as excited as we are about the prospects of Joe leading the league in passing attempts next year, as he fell one attempt short of the leader this year. Expecting our run to pass ratio to change slightly to a 15% run commitment. We are also extremely excited to bring back both Suggs and Dumervil to continue to slow any progress on young pass rushers that we already might have. Also we don't intend on making an offer to Brandon Williams.

This is where we are really heading this offseason, may the football gods have mercy on us fans. In all seriousness, Marty should have been demoted or dumped make a run on Rick Dennison from Denver. Can't bear to see the check down as the featured weapon again. We need pass rushers and speed in the secondary, you can really tell how slow they are when it looks as tho they are standing still when another team is running down the field. C.J. Mosley needs to get to work on his coverage skills stat, it's his only weakness. Resign Brandon Williams for the love of god, don't let him walk we never missed Nagta because of this guy being here. I want new scouts infused into our program as well we have lost to many over the seasons to better jobs.

We need a new OC but this was a great game but tough loss

The Pats are 4-0 this season without Gronk and Brady is 6-0 at home against #1 defenses. That said they are more susceptible to being beaten right now than any other point in this season since Brady was out. Go Ravens.

I posted this last night at NFL.com under the Ravens-Patriots game discussion ...

On December 16, 2012 at around 3:00PM EST, Joe Flacco lay on the ground in Baltimore. There was blood trickling onto the Ravens goal line from a cut on Flacco's face. One of the cleats from the Bronco's Chris Harris had caught him as he dove, trying to prevent Harris from scoring on a 98 yard pick 6. Despite being partially blocked near the 50 yard line, Flacco had continued to chase Harris, and almost caught him. His chase was likely as much in frustration as in desperation.

The Ravens had entered December 9-2 and on a four game winning streak which included tough road wins in Pittsburgh and San Diego. They appeared to have their home game with the Steelers in hand when arch-nemesis James Harrison hit Flacco from the blind side and stripped the ball, leading to the deciding TD. This was followed by a close loss to the Redskins in Washington, and now a blowout loss in progress to the playoff-bound Broncos. The Ravens once-promising season appeared to be going down the tubes in a hurry.

And then a miracle happened.

OK, the miracle was a few weeks later, after the Ravens had rebounded against the defending world champion Giants to get into the playoffs, then defeated the wild card Colts at home. They were again playing the Broncos, this time in Denver, and it appeared that the Broncos had the game in hand. They were up 35-28 with under a minute left and the Ravens were facing 3rd and 3 at their own 30 yard line. That's when Flacco unleashed a pass that traveled 60 yards in the air to hit Jacoby Jones with the game tying TD. The Ravens went on to win the Super Bowl, and in the process Joe Flacco tied Joe Montana for the most post-season TD's without an interception.

Two years later in the divisional championship game, Flacco matched Brady TD for TD, twice taking 14 point leads in Foxboro. But the Ravens eventually fell victim to the Pats as their defensive secondary wasn't up to the task of covering the Patriots receivers.

This year is shaping up similarly to 2012. The Ravens started 3-0, but then went 0-for-October, losing four games in a row to the Raiders, Redskins, Giants, and (ugh) Jets. They were all close games, and there were serious injury problems throughout that time, but regardless of that, the Ravens entered November 3-4, lucky that the rest of the AFC North was faring just as badly or worse. Since then they have gone 4-1 with that one loss being to the Cowboys in Dallas. They have also gotten healthy. And if they can remain without significant injuries, their chances at taking it all again are far better than their 7-5 record might suggest.

After that loss to the Pats in the 2014 playoffs, the Ravens were predicted by many to win the SB in 2015. That was before a raft of injuries hit the team, eventually leaving half the opening day starters on IR, with other key injuries as well, including first round draft pick Brashad Perriman who never played a snap in 2015. Their season of frustration was made all the worse when, in the same game, Justin Forsett broke his arm and Joe Flacco went down with torn ACL and MCL in his left knee.

They finished 5-11, their first losing season under John Harbaugh. The one bright spot was that they DID get some nifty draft picks - picks which have paid off well. Perhaps the most important have been first round pick Ronnie Stanley at left guard, and fourth round pick Tavon Young at CB. Stanley has lived up to his hype as a quality offensive lineman, and the Ravens four game losing streak just happened to correspond to the four games Stanley missed due to injury. Meanwhile Young has played his way into the starting cornerback spot, winning the job from opening day starter Shareece Wright.

The Ravens defensive backfield also has PFF's top rated strong safety, Eric Weddle, and converted CB Ladarius Webb who is rapidly developing into a quality free safety. They are a far stronger unit than the one that Brady picked apart in the 2014 playoffs. Meanwhile, Flacco has better offensive weapons than he has ever enjoyed. Whereas his only deep threat in 2014 was Torrey Smith, he now has Mike Wallace, Brashad Perriman, and Chris Moore who can all burn down the field. He also has big-bodied tight end Darren Waller who has the speed of a wide receiver and the height to be able to go up high in the back of the endzone.

The Ravens also have two quality running backs in Terrence West and Kenneth Dixon. Dixon, another fourth round pick, has recovered from the knee injury that kept him from playing the first several games of the season, and is showing the kind of elusiveness that made him the Ravens top running back this preseason. Now that the offensive line has gotten healthy and learned to play as a unit, both the running game and the passing game have improved.

If the Pats want to win on Monday they had better be significantly better than they were in 2014, because the Ravens are.

All great except Ronnie Stanley is our left tackle not guard. It's all right there just need to put a run together, without burning ourselves out completely before the playoffs. Love the view points.

  17 hours ago, hen826957 said:

When it's 4th down and in field goal range take the points. We have a weapon kicker in Tucker. We cannot be greedy a go for it 4th down. The coaching decisions have to be good at this game.

Absolutely right!!!! Self Righteous John has already singlehandedly blown two games by calling ridiculous plays, and going for it when absolutely not necessary. Maybe it took eleven games for SRJ and FBAJ to figure out that, they have the NO. 1 D in the league, along with the greatest kicker of all time, with a great special teams. Would love another run. But it's doubtful FBAJ puts two impressive games back to back. Just don't blow it.

Well he said he was going to be playing aggressively, that said when it's obvious you should consider taking the points. Tucker is the best kicker I have ever seen, as long as we don't line him up opposite side and tell him to pass it again that was the worst attempt at a fake ever. Harbaugh came up big with his aggressive style last week but you need to play sound against New England.

I know there is no Gronk this week but, they are undefeated this year without Gronk playing, the two losses occurred with him playing and one was a shutout by the Bills who we are hoping defeat the Steelers this week. This game scares me in that this will be Youngs greatest test of the year covering Edelman in the slot. If he is up to it we will win a tight one, if not it will be a long day and probably a wrong sided blowout.

  16 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

they did miss out on a good coach,but people must consider he is great because of those around him and he did luck out on getting BRADY,if BLEDSOE didn't get his lung collapes but just another smaller injury,BRADY would more than likely been traded in a year or two,he's a good coach at making ajustments from quarter to quarter,he gets players that are versital as well.so they can ajust on the fly,we do to and HARB'S is in the same mold,but because FLACCO is not as smart as brady at being able to change from series to series we could never be a great as the PATS.the one thing that BRADY has mastered is the quick release,short,intermediate passing game without making mistakes,we do the same,but for some reason we go three and out alot more than brady or even ALEX SMITH,same type of players.quick,methotical 9-11 play drives without a mistake,we make mistakes with penalties,you saw sunday what we can be,because we limited the penalties that were drive killers.plus to have a qb that can change the play to a run or pass based on what he sees at the line is crucial to this style of west coast offense.the uptempo has helped FLACCO because of the fact that he can just go with the play called and the defense doesn't have time to change formations or personel.even if we had BELICHECK,it wouldn't change us much.

Well at least Flacco is not a cheater. So how smart do you think Brady is? He got caught. I'll take Flacco thank you very much!

We all love Flacco but Brady I the greatest ever, don't let your hate make you look stupid. You know in your heart you would prefer Brady over Flacco. That said you play the cards your dealt, and I love our Ravens history however brief it has been.

Best performance all year. That said a more balanced attack would be more preferable. This defense is awesome I really hope we don't waste it like the 2006 defense.

I love Tucker but it is sad that our kicker is the ticket seller on the team.

Anybody else see that a year nine Flacco is playing in such a dumbed down offense that he has only two reads most plays and doesn't change plays when it's obvious that the play won't work. Dak Prescott is a rookie changing plays and protections and making three and four reads. That is just embarrassing, I think Ray shouldn't have apologized to Flacco he made a lot of good points not about the rah rah stuff but the complete lack of passion. He does sit by himself on the bench after plays and he doesn't change his sense of urgency or demeanor after a bad play or a good one. Notice his lack of accuracy this gets better when you put in the extra work that people with passion have the drive to do, like work with your receivers to get that timing down to a science, or do some film study to understand who your throwing against and their tendencies. Since winning the Super Bowl he has seriously regressed, I know he has had like seven coordinators but the basic question intelligence doesn't seem evident in Flacco.

Raise your hand if your tired of hearing Harbaugh say the same things every time we lose. I mean he keeps saying theses penalties and mistakes are all correctable and yet every week it's the same old story. We abandon the run and commit drive ending penalties seems we can't get out of our own way and don't even try and blame injuries because we only employ injured players on the Ravens anyway so that argument won't hold water here. I saw something about Elliot this week, he sucks without blocking, put him on another team and he would be mediocre at best. That is shocking considering based on his highlights you'd think he was a beast sadly I saw quite the opposite when we played him, unlike when we first played Peterson he carried 4 of our players for a touchdown with no blocking, oh and one of his passengers was Ray Lewis. This team needs to get out of it's own way sometimes, this is quite possibly the worst coached team in the NFL, besides Dean Pees that is. I watched the game several time and those defenders were put in the right spots and consistently missed tackles and used poor techniques causing it to look worse than it really was.

Boyle can help in the run game, IF the Ravens decide to run. Hopefully he can stay clean, he is a good tight end.

The only blocking tight end on the entire roster. Not that great but exactly what we need to move towards a more efficient run game.

So just an odd stat, the same team that has the least amount of fumbles over the last decade now leads the NFL in fumbles, not fumbles lost just fumbles. The New England Patriots, that's right because deflate gate does matter.
Oh and our division just sucks this year, I don't even think we deserve a team in the playoffs this year. That's right it should be the best 12 teams period, no division or conference crap, just purely the best records going at it. I know it's a any given Sunday league, but certain teams just don't belong in the playoffs, I mean is being the best team in the worst division actually worth anything? When will they start ranking defense on the stat that matters points allowed per game, that would make us the #5 defense not the #2. Seattle would be #1 not Arizona, and everything would seem to make more sense. Total yards mean nothing, I'll give you 800 yards every week if you can't score on us and with field position you can have 5 touchdowns in less than 200yards offense, so in conclusion the NFL should change the way the choose the #1 defense. Even though I don't agree with the current playoff system we still have a good chance to win the division. I just hope this doesn't give clueless John Harbaugh, to much extra time on his credit here, I mean he said we didn't abandon the run game but the game itself didn't dictate us to run more. Really cause 6 yards a carry and time of possession means nothing right? 6 planed runs after the 1st quarter say Harbaugh is full of it, oh and a bad scramble because we only employ injured players in Baltimore, great O-line huh? 7 different starting combinations this year on the offensive line so much for the continuity. This defense is still good but if you want them to look better we need to control the clock which means the situation always dictates that we run the damn ball. Dream scenario this offseason Ozzie retires and Harbaugh quits out of pure shock forcing the Ravens to fix their problems instead of putting temporary band-aids on.

I'm raising my hand cuz I thought our rookies WOULD add to the pass rush.

And what about Young he is a real surprise at cornerback considering we weren't even considering him as our second cornerback on the field.

OK. This is the glass half full view. The glass half empty vireew is that we have no chance top make the playoffs.

The in-between view, IMHO, is that it's gonna be dead hard to make the playoffs if the Ravens don't find consistency. On O, we can make enough points to win a game - if the O-line has no key injuries...

As for the D... yep, it could be argued that the 2016 Ravens will probably go as far as the D carries them... because ut's by far the better unit. However, it doesn't mean a playoff ticket punched: people are keen to forget that we had not one but two games (Raiders, Giants) where the makeshift O won the game - and then the D found a way to still lose it...

The reality, IMHO, is that our D is great against O's that run the ball a lot. But as soon as thjere's a good QB-good deep threat receiver combo with a rapport, our D gets increasingly exposed. That was the caasae with Carr and Crabtree and Manning and Beckham. And we have two games against the Dalton-Green couple which kills us about every time we play them, Big Ben and Brown at their turf, Prescott and Dez Bryant... And we have the Patriots in Foxboro...

With due respect, I still don't see this team going anywehere near over 0.500 - we'll have to win 3 more games to get to 0.500... - and that is probably not gonna be enough to win the division - and nowhere near enough to secure a Wild Card spot.

I'm just saying this division is at tipping point, Steelers and Bengals both win on Sunday and we will have three teams at .500 or better, lose and we remain the worst division this season winning percentage wise. Yes I agree our secondary is slow and can be exposed, however our pressure/pass rush has been heating up. That said Big Ben has a great arm and a top running back with a top receiver and we handled that perfectly. The Raiders didn't even put up that much points on us scoring only 14 on offense, the special teams lost that game in several plays if you watch it again. The Giants was just plain sad if Young hadn't come off the ball flat footed he wouldn't have fallen over on the last Beckham TD, that said Young is getting better each game and by the end of the year might prove to be our best cornerback. The Cowboys should be a good test for how physical we are and the Patriots will answer our secondary questions, everyone else is at or below .500 don't see a real reason we can't make the postseason. Once your in it's all about getting hot at the right time, often enough the best team doesn't win the Super Bowl, just the hottest postseason team that year.

On ‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 2:23 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

On ‎11‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 0:59 PM, eze17 said:

Really have to agree that those two games against the Bungles are going to probably determine if we make the play-offs or sit at home...

What is our deal with them? We really need to make a statement against them this year. I would trade losing in Pitt for crushing Cincy twice this year. I think we have a good shot of winning all three though to be honest. Jimmy better be on AJ the entire game otherwise I'll lose it. I think AJ and Julio are the 2 best WRs in the NFL. People say Brown, and you can't lie about his production. But I would be interested to see any of our fans respond to this. I think AJ is better than Brown. My main and clear cut argument is switch the 2 on their teams. If Brown played with Dalton, I think he'd have less production than Green did with him. And Green would have even more with Ben than Brown did. I think they are really similar. But green is 6 inches taller. And yes, Green is quick too. Anyways, who's better people, Green or Brown?

While I like your argument compare their numbers since entering the league and Brown wins. The measurables coming out favored Green, but the stats have seen Brown flourish more. Yes Ben is better than Andy but to say Green would do better in a switch is not possible, you can't measure Browns heart and desire. Just like Michael Jordan having more heart than his much more measurable opponents. I think we are also forgetting that until this year Green had Sanu and Jones to take some heat off him Brown is all the Steelers have had for a while. That said the Steelers have a better run game to help bring people into the box leaving more room for Brown to work his magic. Likewise the Bengals have a better defense in recent years and prior to this season perhaps the best 53 man roster for 4 years straight, losing a lot this year in free agency. All things considered I'll take Brown over Green but honestly they aren't that far apart, again good question.

I like the direction of the offense but that was only half a game they put together. It will take a full games production to take down the Cowboys, so get your stuff together. As for the defense wow they just keep getting better, and where does this Young guy get off playing this good, I mean wow never saw that coming. This in all seriousness will be our greatest test this season, just above the Raiders game in difficulty. Can't wait to see how our Ravens do.

Great defense but Flacco two game picks that's 4 multiple pick games this season, ouch. But complimentary football was the winning formula tonight.

Here's goes Flacco king of the interception

How we can be up 21-0 in the 4th quarter and I'm still nervous says it all.

Wow what was that Flacco I mean seriously that was a backward sprint while throwing the ball of course your not going to have any accuracy. He just choked in the red zone big time.

Wow this buffalo team looks just like the ravens, inaccurate passes and penalties combined with poor speed in the secondary. I'm terrified to face this years pats team later on this year.