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  1. 11 points
    Apologies in advance for how long this post will be - because i was using excel to collate everything it's difficult for it to format well into this forum: i considered just putting it all on a google drive for y'all but that doesn't really seem like the done thing here... If it is I can maybe collate it all on a google drive and post a link to make it easier... Apologies as well for the bizarre post earlier that obviously didn't work. I'll start with my mock because it's easiest i reckon. I tried not to be too obvious as far as possible but within reason so a lot of the picks will look familiar I imagine. I fully mocked 2 rounds and then drafted in the ball park for the other picks: MOCK DRAFT Round 1 1) Browns - Myles Garrett - EDGE 2) 49ers - Jonathan Allen - DL: I find it hard to see the 49ers three-peating with DL in the first but the Jets kind of did it in the past and there's no offensive talent for Shanahan to clamour for at this spot. I could very much see the 49ers trying to trade out of this spot for a team that loves a qb and thinks the bears / jets will take one. 3) Bears - Solomon Thomas - DL: Thomas is a missing piece on that defence but I could also see the Bears trying to trade out of this spot too - it's reported that both the Jets and Browns are interested in Trubisky but there were quotes from a scout saying the Jets were in love with Trubisky but that he wouldn't make it to 6 - I personally have a feeling that's a Titans scout trying to scare a team into trading with them at number 5. 4) Jaguars - Leonard Fournette - RB 5) Titans - Jamal Adams - S 6) Jets - Marshon Lattimore - CB: The jets may take Trubisky but I'm going to err away from the side of sensationalism. 7) Chargers - Malik Hooker - S 8) Panthers - OJ Howard - TE: Greg Olsen is getting older and there are no linemen worthy of this pick I think - OJ Howard gives Cam Newton a weapon he'll find it hard to miss. 9) Bengals - Derek Barnett - EDGE: Game-changer off the edge, I'd hate this but it makes a lot of sense. 10) Bills - Mike Williams - WR: They need help opposite Sammy Watkins (or to replace him when he's injured) 11) Saints - Reuben Foster - ILB 12) Browns - Mitchell Trubisky - QB: They apparently really like him so if he falls to 12 I see them pulling the trigger. 13) Cardinals - Deshaun Watson - QB: I struggled with this pick so looked around the league - I have the impression that the Cardinals are happy at qb but there is a growing idea that they'll pick a qb here. 14) Eagles - Dalvin Cook - RB 15) Colts - Forest Lamp - OL 16) Ravens - Corey Davis - WR: He's a different kind of receiver to what Flacco has at the moment. The worries about the level of competition are obviously real but I have confidence that he can transition well because of his elite route-running skills and ability to hands-catch. 17) Washington - Haason Reddick - LB 18) Titans - John Ross - WR 19) Bucs - Christian Mccaffrey - RB 20) Broncos - Cam Robinson - OL 21) Lions - Tim Williams - EDGE 22) Dolphins - Zach Cunningham - ILB 23) Giants - Ryan Ramcyzk - OL 24) Raiders - Marlon Humphrey - CB 25) Texans - Garrett Bolles - OL 26) Seahawks - Teez Tabor - CB 27) Chiefs - Dan Feeney - OL 28) Cowboys - Gareon Conley - CB 29) Packers - Taco Charlton - EDGE 30) Steelers - Takk Mckinley - EDGE 31) Falcons - Budda Baker - S 32) Saints - Tredavius White - CB: I'm assuming the trade for Malcolm Butler doesn't happen and that the Saints need a corner. Round 2 1) Browns - Obi Melifonwu - S 2) 49ers - Quincy Wilson - CB 3) Jags - Jabrill Peppers - S 4) Bears - Deshone Kizer - QB 5) Rams - Charles Harris - EDGE 6) Chargers: Jarrad Davis - EDGE 7) Jets - Alvin Kamara - RB 8) Panthers - Adoree Jackson - CB 9) Bengals - Cooper Kupp - WR 10) Saints - Malik Mcdowell - DL 11) Eagles - David Njoku - TE 12) Bills - Patrick Mahomes - QB 13) Cardinals - Pat Elflein - OL 14) Colts - TJ Watt - EDGE 15) Ravens - Carl Lawson - EDGE: The injuries are a potential issue but he has legitimate first round talent and can wreck off the edge which is why he probably is untouchable for the ravens until now. Ryan Anderson/Evan Engram could be the pick if we are too uncomfortable with his injuries. 16) Vikings - Zay Jones - WR 17) Washington - Davis Webb - QB 18) Bucs - Ryan Anderson - EDGE 19) Broncos - Dion Dawkins - OL 20) Browns - Chidobe Awuzie - CB 21) Lions - Joe Mixon - RB 22) Dolphins - Jourdan Lewis - CB 23) Giants - Sidney Jones - CB 24) Raiders - Dont'a Foreman - RB 25) Texans - Evan Engram - TE 26) Seahawks - Taylor Moton - OL 27) Chiefs - Dede Westbrook - WR 28) Cowboys - Demarcus Walker - EDGE 29) Packers - Tanoh Kpassagnon - EDGE 30) Steelers - Kevin King - CB 31) Falcons - Ethan Pocic - OL 32) Panthers - Curtis Samuel - WR Round 3 Fabian Moreau - CB: A highly accomplished corner with first round talent who will most likely fall a little bit due to the sheer numbers of corners and the injury that will keep him out of OTAs etc. If he is taken then I could see Isaac Asiata or Howard Wilson being the pick here. Akhello Witherspoon - CB: Double dipping at corner might not be expected here but I think these guys could be the BPA picks at both these spots. Witherspoon is a brilliant cover corner who maybe shies away from contact too much but could maybe see a philosophy change once he's getting good money to make tackles and in our case to even get on the field. I could see these two corners developing really well together behind carr, smith and with tavon. Round 4 Anthony Garcia - OL: An interesting tackle prospect with some elite traits. He has great quickness and the ability to mirror edge rushers, is rarely beaten with speed. His major problem and it may not be fixable even in an NFL weight program is his body frame - he mostly plays under 300 which isnt ideal and im not sure he has the frame to add much more weight. He could be a useful addition to the right tackle competition - but i wonder how he'd hold up against bull rushers. Round 5 Donnel Pumphrey - RB: He's mocked to us a lot I think around here and I wanted to do something new but he makes a lot of sense. Running back help including someone with a twitchy type speed albeit maybe it isnt quite the breakaway speed we've been yearning. Round 6 Deatrich Wise Jr - EDGE: A guy who didn't have the greatest production but didnt show too many reasons why it wasnt working. He has potential as a late guy - probably projected in the 5th but I could see him dropping down to this round just because of all the combine notables and other guys who have more production this last year. BIG BOARD Player Position 1 Myles Garrett EDGE 2 Jamal Adams S 3 Malik Hooker S 4 Derek Barnett EDGE 5 Reuben Foster ILB 6 Jonathan Allen DL 7 Marshon Lattimore CB 8 Corey Davis WR 9 Mike Williams WR 10 Leonard Fournette RB 11 Tim Williams EDGE 12 Cam Robinson OL 13 Solomon Thomas DL 14 Dalvin Cook RB 15 OJ Howard TE 16 Hasson Reddick EDGE 17 Gareon Conley CB 18 Charles Harris EDGE 19 Quincy Wilson CB 20 Marlon Humphrey CB 21 Forest Lamp OL 22 TJ Watt EDGE 23 Budda Baker S 24 John Ross WR 25 Tradavius White CB 26 Garrett Bolles OL 27 Jabrill Peppers S 28 Dan Feeney OL 29 Ryan Ramcyzk OL 30 Christian Mccaffrey RB 31 Malik Mcdowell DL 32 Taco Charlton EDGE 33 Pat Elflein OL 34 Obi Melifonwu S 35 Adoree Jackson CB 36 Carl Lawson EDGE 37 David Njoku TE 38 Takk Mckinley EDGE 39 Ryan Anderson EDGE 40 Evan Engram TE 41 Chidobe Awuzie CB 42 Zay Jones WR 43 Zach Cunningham ILB 44 Fabian Moreau CB 45 Juju Smith-Schuster WR 46 Cooper Kupp WR 47 Tanoh Kpassagnon EDGE 48 Sidney Jones CB 49 Desmond King CB 50 Dion Dawkins OL 51 Jarrad Davis ILB 52 Alvin Kamara RB 53 Demarcus Walker EDGE 54 Ethan Pocic OL 55 Bucky Hodges TE 56 Teez Tabor CB 57 Chris Godwin WR 58 Raekwon Mcmillan ILB 59 Caleb Brentley DL 60 Marcus Williams S 61 Jourdan Lewis CB 62 Marcus Maye S 63 Isaiah Ford WR 64 Kevin King CB 65 Cam Sutton CB 66 Isaac Asiata OL 67 Gerald Everett TE 68 Rasul Douglas CB 69 Curtis Samuel WR 70 Jordan Willis EDGE 71 Ahkello Witherspoon CB 72 Justin Evans S 73 Cordrea Tankersley CB 74 Howard Wilson CB 75 Duke Riley ILB 76 Taylor Moton OL 77 Damontae Kazee CB 78 Taywan Taylor WR 79 Tarrell Basham EDGE 80 Dont'a Foreman RB 81 Derek Rivers EDGE 82 Corn Elder CB 83 Samaje Perrine RB 84 Carlos Henderson WR 85 Anthony Garcia OL 86 Montravius Adams DL 87 Tyus Bowser EDGE 88 Chris Wormley DL 89 Erik Magnuson OL 90 Tyler Orlosky OL 91 Eddie Jackson S 92 Jordan Legget TE 93 Larry Ogunjobi DL 94 Shaquill Griffin CB 95 Ardarius Stewart WR 96 Jaleel Johnson DL 97 Carroll Phillips EDGE 98 Ejuan Price EDGE 99 Dawuane Smoot EDGE 100 Kareem Hunt RB 101 Jarron Jones DL 102 Adam Bisnowaty OL 103 Julie'n Davenport OL 104 Carlos Watkins DL 105 Kyle Fuller OL 106 Vince Biegel EDGE 107 Amara Darboh WR 108 Dalvin Tomlinson DL 109 Jake Butt TE 110 Nazair Jones DL 111 Ryan Switzer WR 112 Charles Walker DL 113 Josh Jones S 114 Kendall Beckwith ILB 115 KD Cannon WR 116 Tanzel Smart DL 117 Dorian Johnson OL 118 Jalen Myrick CB 119 Corey Clement RB 120 Roderick Johnson OL 121 Elijah Qualls DL 122 Brian Allen CB 123 Jadar Johnson S 124 Malachi Dupre WR 125 Noah Brown WR 126 Josh Reynolds WR 127 Wayne Gallman RB 128 Soujorn Shelton CB 129 Jordan Morgan OL 130 David Sharpe OL 131 Artavis Scott WR 132 John Johnson S 133 Donnell Pumphrey RB 134 Eddie Vanderdoes DL 135 Elijah Lee ILB 136 Deatrich Wise Jr EDGE 137 Amba Etta-Tawo WR 138 Joe Mathis EDGE 139 Ryan Glasgow DL 140 Trestan Decoud CB 141 Vincent Taylor DL 142 Alex Anzalone ILB 143 Jon Toth OL 144 DJ Jones DL 145 Jalen Robinette WR 146 Anthony Walker ILB 147 Darreus Rogers WR 148 Jay Guillermo OL 149 De'Veon Smith RB 150 Davon Godchaux DL 151 Chad Hansen WR 152 Ben Boulware ILB 153 Freddie Stevenson FB 154 Brendan Langley CB 155 Montae Nicholson S 156 Tashawn Bower EDGE 157 Tarik Cohen RB 158 Channing Stribling CB 159 Rayshawn Jenkins S 160 Lorenzo Jerome S 161 Marquell Lee ILB 162 TJ Logan RB 163 Marquez White CB 164 Bryan Cox DL 165 Jeremiah Ledbitter DL 166 Jamal Carter S 167 Jalen Reeves-Maybin ILB 168 Sam Rogers FB I'll post my Qbs in order as well but the colour coding no longer works here but just as a reference point, I have all the qbs either in Jarron Jones's tier (starting at 101) or below it Mitch Trubisky QB Deshaun Watson QB Deshone Kizer QB Patrick Mahomes QB Brad Kaaya QB Davis Webb QB Nate Peterman QB Josh Dobbs QB Chad Kelly QB Jerod Evans QB Seth Russell QB CJ Beathard QB And here is the positional breakdown of the big board Position Draftable Players QB 11 RB 13 FB 2 OL 22 WR 23 TE 7 EDGE 23 DL 22 ILB 12 S 16 CB 28 TOTAL 179 Thanks for the read if you made it this far. Let me know what you think about the mock, the board, about maybe putting this on a google drive if that's easier. Oh yeah, and just for everyone's sanity, please don't quote this whole post...
  2. 11 points
    This is by far the most effective post you've made even though you're rolling in laughter at something that is logical and perhaps right. See you can convey a lot more if you don't type words and make sentences.
  3. 11 points
    I was going to type a long paragraph on why what ellicott said is true, but decided it wasnt worth it.
  4. 8 points
    I definitely think Judon has a role here going forward, not a starter but I think he's definitely going to be a contributor. I honestly wouldn't flinch if Za'darius Smith was cut.
  5. 8 points
  6. 7 points
  7. 7 points
    waht n erth ar you treyeing too sey?
  8. 7 points
    Jefferson also said this tho: Tony Jefferson‏@_tonyjefferson @FilmstudyRavens 21 is best number out there couldn't pass up . In respect to Webb if he's back that's HIS number no questions asked.
  9. 6 points
    When I was at UCF, they lived in the same building where my dorm was at. Both of them seemed like really cool guys from the number of times I've passed them from and to my room. That being said, I know nothing of his football ability. I can't stress enough how little I pay attention to prospects compared to the game itself (hence why I just lurk and read these draft threads to keep up lol). Of course I would love my fellow Knights to be Ravens like Aiken and Perriman. Speaking of Perriman, I actually got to see him near my dorm like a month before the draft last year. Dude was in good spirits. Totally rooting for him as well. Sorry for going off a tangent, but yeah.
  10. 6 points
    I just don't think Robinson will be the best player when we pick
  11. 6 points
    Lol. I'm gonna come straight here when our first pick is a pass rusher
  12. 5 points
  13. 5 points
    Not football film. Oh no, I meant the bachelor.
  14. 5 points
    Next 10. Will edit the Big Board later. 2. Los Angeles Rams @jazz19883. Washington Redskins @arnie_uk4. Chicago Bears @allblackraven5. Los Angeles Rams @jazz19886. Washington Redskins @arnie_uk7. Tennessee Titans @Ozzsome8. Carolina Panthers LOL9. Baltimore Ravens @JO_7510. Miami Dolphins @feel_the_rush11. Seattle Seahawks @RavensFanMania
  15. 5 points
    And that's the kind of statement that drives the "Flacco lovers" nuts. As a matter of fact, the Ravens were in the top 3rd of the league in AVOIDING 3 and outs. He was NOT failing to move the chains at a high rate. Granted, there were too many failed attempts at securing the first down later in the drive, but a fair amount of that was lacking a playmaker on offense. It takes two to move the chains.
  16. 5 points
    I could live with Ramczyk over Robinson. But leaving Barnett and Davis on the board would make me sad.
  17. 5 points
    What is there to debate over? Does he need to play better? Yes. Everyone and their mom has come to that conclusion. Will he be on the team for the foreseeable future? Yes. The team still has a lot of confidence in him and his contract is structured in such a way that it makes it harmful to cut him, anyways. Beyond those two points, what is there to talk about? 100+ pages worth? At least we don't see the phrases 'deer in the headlights', 'can't/won't win the big game', etc anymore.
  18. 5 points
    Lol that's easy. Jonathan allen
  19. 5 points
    CBS sounds about right
  20. 5 points
    With the 23rd pick in the third round the New York Giants select: Desmond King, CB, Iowa
  21. 5 points
    With the 22nd pick in the third round of the 2017 Forum Mock Draft, the Texans are proud to welcome one of their own: Patrick Mahomes II, QB Texas Tech
  22. 5 points
  23. 5 points
    Just getting around to reading your own posts? Figures. Cuz thats been my reaction the whole time.
  24. 5 points
    It seems some posters have been possessed by demonic teletubbies.
  25. 5 points
    On behalf of @ArsenalRaven666... With the 16th pick in the 3rd round of the 2017 Forum Mock, the Cleveland Browns select... Ethan Pocic | C | LSU
  26. 5 points
    of course he can... he just did
  27. 5 points
    This is kinda where I'm at with it in a way. The front office, in my opinion, must believe one of three things. 1. The Ravens aren't capable of developing young receivers. I would have believed this very much during the tenure of Jim Hostler and that would be supported by always bringing in these older, established veterans, but I just don't see it now. Engram is a really great receivers coach and we've seen great strides from players like Aiken and Perriman. I think if Engram were really given a bonafide star in the draft to work with (like Mike Williams), he could coach out any deficiencies and turn him into a superstar in the league. 2. The Ravens think Joe can do it all on his own and doesn't need a supporting cast around him. This one is just total bogus no matter who the quarterback is, except for one. I have only ever seen Andrew Luck do so much more with so much less and he was quite possibly the greatest draft prospect in NFL history, so we know that this isn't true. 3. The Ravens believe that no matter who they put out there, Joe is going to look exactly like he has for his entire career. Now, I know Joe hasn't had the greatest group of receivers in the world, but it seems that no matter who's out there, Joe is going to just make the same mistakes and the same throws. It doesn't matter if he has a Gronk or Julio; he's going to be who he is. He's gone through so many receivers, different offensive coordinators, and different philosophies and he's still playing the exact same. Sure, maybe if he had Gronk, Julio, Megatron, AJ Green, and Bell in their primes, he might be lighting up the stat sheet, but no quarterback has anything close to that. I think the front office is resigned to the idea of giving Joe just enough to work with and not leaving him out to dry, but not hinging all their money on a receiver/tight end group that'd rival the best in the league because Joe is still going to be Joe no matter who is out there.
  28. 4 points
  29. 4 points
    Apparently no one offered more than a fourth for Sheldon Richardson, so do not at all expect Jernigan to net more than a fifth.
  30. 4 points
    With the 27th selection in the 4th round in the 2017 Forum Mock, the Green Bay Packers select... Jordan Leggett | TE | Clemson
  31. 4 points
    These are the types of days where I just want to trade the rest of my picks and be done with the game.
  32. 4 points
    Made one too many boneheaded penalty for Harbaugh's taste?
  33. 4 points
    Source where Ozzie told John to hire Kubiak? Pretty sure that didn't actually happen. Most likely a fan-generated myth. The closest article I found. "The last tweet from Baltimore Sun columnist Mike Preston is telling, considering that Jim Hostler was leading the way for the job it seemed. That would insinuate that Harbaugh wanted Hostler and that Ozzie Newsome and Steve Bisciotti were thinking otherwise." http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2014/1/27/5350924/ravens-to-hire-gary-kubiak-as-offensive-coordinator-official Preston also makes stuff up all the time too, so needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
  34. 4 points
    I understand the being in the playoffs once in the last four years is blamed on Flacco BUT Flacco played half a season once and was rehabbing the trashed knee last year. I've posted this somewhere it takes 18 months to get over the whole knee thing, physically the player is ready but psychologically he may not be. I forget which home game last year Flacco trashed his knee brace because he went down funny in his slide and hobbled off the field to the tunnel to get it changed out and came out ready to play---as player that has to stick with you. The revolving door at OC impacts the entire offense and oh boy did it show. The stupid penalties killed the team as well as QB play. Personally I like Joe and I know he will never be Peyton or Tom, because franchise QB's of their caliber do not grow on trees or everyone would have one except maybe Cleveland.
  35. 4 points
    Highly unlikely. Too much talent to be had at 16 and in the second.
  36. 4 points
    I am really impressed with the moves made this year. I think were building a strong team and we'll continue that trend in the draft. It impossible to fill ever hole up with top notch players but if we can shore up the Oline and get a pass rusher of quality then were set for the year. We obvs need another WR but that can be a vet on a minimum contract or through the draft. To me, i dont think adding a WR is that important. We have Wallace and Perriman on the sides and Pitta roaming the middle to move the chains. How many teams out there can say they have a competent player at every position?
  37. 4 points
    Spot on, brother! Amen!!!! Have been saying that since the last snap of last season. Brees, Brady, P. Manning etc... all took pay cuts after they had enough money to last their families through 5 generations and Flacco is now in that boat as well. I feel if he doesn't help the team now, we need to look for his replacement because as soon as that contract gets to a manageable amount for dead money (which is in 2 years) he needs to be let go. The team paid him for his good years and now he either needs to take a pay cut, or have an MVP season or I would say send him down the road. Even after 2 years, he is still in the top 5 QBs in the league in cap money though he is in the bottom 5 starting QB's in performance. We need to draft a QB this year so he is ready in two years when we need to let Flacco walk.
  38. 4 points
    And I see it totally the other way. The slightest defense of Flacco is met with a tirade of over-the-top criticism. I don't see anyone "absolutely love" Joe, just people trying to tell the "haters" to lighten up. Seriously people, there is a middle ground and I think that's where the bulk of the fans are. We've seen horrible Joe and we've see tremendous Joe. What we want is a plan, scheme, roster, whatever, that helps us see the good Joe way more often.
  39. 4 points
    With the 30rd pick in the 3rd Round 94th overall the Philadelphia Eagles select Jordan Willis, DE, Kensas State
  40. 4 points
    Whether or not Pitta fell down, Flacco did himself no favors by 1. Having tunnel vision to Pitta and 2. Using the check-down far too often.
  41. 4 points
    On behalf of @RavensFanMania... With the 26th pick in the 3rd round of the 2017 Forum Mock, the Seattle Seahawks select... Gerald Everett | TE | South Alabama
  42. 4 points
    Bucky Brooks latest Mock is crazy. Has us taking Ross which I hate as a pick for us. Don't need another speed receiver especially one with injury concerns. And I can't see him being our BPA with Tim Williams, Humphrey, Wilson, Harris, etc... on the board. But he has Tredavious White to the Saints as the 2nd CB. That's not too crazy I guess. Then Tabor to the Eagles. Then Chidobe Awuzie at 15 to the Colts?!?! I mean he's got serious ball skills... but I haven't seen anyone Mock him until mid/late 2nd and as the 8th CB highest.
  43. 4 points
    I find this use of fallacy insulting - joey and I often disagree on draft prospects... and anyway, I'm much better looking
  44. 4 points
    Maybe because he had 1161 yards,18 TDs and did great in short yard situations. No one is claiming he's the next Jamal Lewis but he'd def help as we often failed to convert on 3rd and 1 or 1st and goal. i honestly don't understand why you won't even call him a "good" player? if the tender is retracted from west and we add half a mil to it then we probably land a power back like Blount. Blount carrying the load on short yardage and Woodhead on 3rd downs and slot would be a prity nice one two punch.
  45. 4 points
    i jus doan no wat memorex is sposed to be...
  46. 4 points
    I see Bell getting tackled for a loss by Suggs.😄
  47. 4 points
    Social-media killed the message-boards star! Far worse than Video killed the Radio star!
  48. 4 points
    This is just one of those really deep drafts where we wish we had 11 picks instead of 7. I would've no problem trading down in this one and collect a couple more 2-3rd round picks.
  49. 3 points
    On selecting an OT over a WR with the first pick: what use do you have of a good WR if the QB has no time throwing to him because the right tackle a swinging door?
  50. 3 points
    So are we all just in agreement that Max, Gillmore and Waller are all gonna go somewhere else and be decent?