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I made this thread last year, so I figured I'd update it for this year. It's mostly copy/paste, but I've updated it somewhat. It's no secret that teams interview prospects for many different reasons, ranging from genuine interest to purposely feigning interest to trick other teams. In addition, teams will never meet or speak with certain prospects and then draft them, much to the surprise of the player himself. So this got me wondering: how strong of a connection is there between the Ravens' prospect interviews and actually drafting them? Taking what I could find from various sites, I composed a list, highlighting those we actually brought in either through the draft, UDFA, or waivers. 2011 *Baylor guard Danny Watkins (3/16). *Georgia defensive end Justin Houston (3/21, ). +Illinois linebacker Martez Wilson (3/21, 4/?). *Virginia Tech running back Ryan Williams (3/21). *Purdue defensive end Ryan Kerrigan (3/22). +Abilene Christian wide receiver Edmund Gates (3/23, 3/27). *Georgia linebacker Akeem Dent (3/?). *Miami cornerback Demarcus Van Dyke (3/?). *Utah State cornerback Curtis Marsh (3/?). *UT-Chattanooga cornerback Buster Skrine (3/24). *Florida State guard/center Rodney Hudson (3/?). +Temple defensive tackle Muhammad Wilkerson (3/28). *Arizona defensive end Brooks Reed (3/28). *Arizona defensive end Ricky Elmore (3/28). *Appalachian State safety Mark LeGree (3/29). Maryland wide receiver Torrey Smith (3/29). Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith (3/29). *Oregon linebacker Casey Matthews (3/30). *Lehigh guard/tackle Will Rackley (3/30). *Texas cornerback Curtis Brown (3/?). Iowa defensive lineman Christian Ballard (3/?). *Missouri defensive end Aldon Smith (?/?). *Rice defensive end Cheta Ozougwu (?/?). *Richmond cornerback Justin Rogers (?/?). *Delaware safety Anthony Walters (?/?). *Illinois defensive tackle Corey Liuget (?/?). Pittsburgh wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin (?/?). Georgia wide receiver Kris Durham (?/?). *Texas linebacker/defensive end Sam Acho (3/?). *Baldwin-Wallace linebacker Keith Darbut (4/?). +Virginia Union offensive tackle David Mims (4/6). UCLA linebacker Akeem Ayers (4/7). North Carolina wide receiver Greg Little (4/7). North Carolina defensive end Robert Quinn (4/7). Mississippi linebacker Jonathan Cornell (4/7). Pittsburgh defensive end Jabaal Sheard (4/8). Louisiana Tech return specialist Phillip Livas (4/20). South Carolina cornerback Chris Culliver (4/20). 2012 +Oklahoma State offensive tackle Levy Adcock (?/?). Miami (Ohio) guard Brandon Brooks (?/?). LSU cornerback Ron Brooks (3/30). *North Carolina linebacker Zach Brown (4/?). +Delaware guard/center Gino Gradkowski (?/?). Oregon State cornerback Brandon Hardin (?/?). Georgia Tech receiver Stephen Hill (4/5). Pittsburgh cornerback Buddy Jackson (3/30). Illinois receiver A.J. Jenkins (4/4). Virginia defensive end Cam Johnson (4/?). *Georgia center Ben Jones (?/?). California linebacker Mychal Kendricks (4/?). Alabama cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick (?/?). Wisconsin center Peter Konz (4/?). *Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead (4/4). *USC defensive end Nick Perry (3/?). Central Florida cornerback Josh Robinson (3/30). UCLA receiver Nelson Rosario (4/3). Syracuse safety Phillip Thomas (3/30). *Texas kicker Justin Tucker (4/24). Utah State linebacker Bobby Wagner (?/?). *Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler (?/?). 2013 Tavon Austin%, WR, West Virginia (PRI) (COM) Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon (SR) Steve Beauharnais, LB, Rutgers (SR) Tommy Bohanon, FB, Wake Forest (SR) Michael Buchanan, DL, Illinois (SR) Tank Carradine%, DE, Florida State (PRI) (COM) Braxston Cave, OL, Notre Dame (SR) DeWayne Cherrington, DL, Mississippi State (PRO) Brandon Copeland, DL, Penn (PRO) Jordan Devey, OL, Memphis (EW) Quinton Dial, DL, Alabama (INT) Lavar Edwards, DL, LSU (SR) Matt Elam, S, Florida (COM) Josh Evans, S, Florida (COM) D.J. Fluker%, OT, Alabama (PRI) (COM) Corey Fuller, WR, Virginia Tech (COM) Dwayne Gratz, DB, Connecticut (SR#) Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State (VINT) DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson (COM) Dustin Hopkins, PK, Florida State (SR) Wes Horton, DL, USC (EW) Margus Hunt%, DE, SMU (PRI) (COM) Stefphon Jefferson, RB, Nevada (COM) Brandon Jenkins, DE, Florida State (COM) Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma (COM) Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati (PRI) Tavarres King, WR, Georgia (SR) Kevin Minter%, ILB, LSU (PRI) (COM) Damontre Moore, DL, Texas A&M (PRI) Sio Moore, LB, Connecticut (PRI) Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia (PRI) Alex Okafor, DL, Texas (SR) Toben Opurum, FB, Kansas (INT) Ryan Otten, TE, San Jose State (SR) Chris Pantale, TE, Boston College (COM) Will Pericak, DL, Colorado (PRI) Keith Pough, LB, Howard (INT) Justin Pugh%, OL, Syracuse (PRI) (SR#) David Quessenberry, OL, San Jose State (SR) Bacarri Rambo, DB, Georgia (PRI) Kevin Reddick, LB, North Carolina (COM) Brian Schwenke, OL, California (SR) Russell Shepard, WR, LSU (PRI) D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina (COM) Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M (SR) Cooper Taylor, DB, Richmond (PRI) Jamar Taylor, DB, Boise State (PRI) Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford (SR) Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas (COM) Conner Vernon, WR, Duke (SR) Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State (COM) Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State (SR) Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina (COM) Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State (EW) 2014 Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (COM) Jeremiah Attaochu, LB, Georgia Tech (COM) Kelvin Benjamin%, WR, Florida State (PRI) (COM) Chris Borland%, LB, Wisconsin (COM) (SR) Chris Boswell, PK, Rice (SR) Jonathan Brown, LB, Illinois (SR) Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson (PRI) Deone Bucannon, DB, Washington State (PRI) Christopher Burnette, G, Georgia (EW) Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest (LOC) Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona (COM) Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, DB, Alabama (PRO) Mike Davis%, WR, Texas (COM) (SR%) Aaron Donald, DL, Pittsburgh (COM) Dominique Easley, DL, Florida (PRO) Eric Ebron%, TE, North Carolina (PRI) (COM) Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (COM) Dee Ford, DL, Auburn (COM) Khairi Fortt, LB, California (PRI) Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois (PRI) Kevin Graf, OL, Southern California (EW) Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State (COM) Gabe Jackson, OL, Mississippi State (SR) Kenny Ladler, DB, Vanderbilt (SR) Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU (COM) Tyler Larsen, OL, Utah State (SR) Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana (PRO) Marqise Lee%, WR, USC (PRI) (COM) Jordan Love, DB, Towson (LOC) Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt (COM) A.J. McCarron, QB, Alabama (PRI) Dexter McDougle, DB, Maryland (PRI) Keith McGill, DB, Utah (PRI) Morgan Moses, OL, Virginia (COM) C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama (PRI) Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama (SR) Cody Parkey, K, Auburn (SR) Jacob Pedersen, TE, Wisconsin (SR) Joe Rankin, DB, Morgan State (LOC) Michael Sam%, LB, Missouri (INT) (COM) (SR) Kiero Small, RB, Arkansas (LOC) Telvin Smith, LB, Florida State (SR) Logan Thomas%, QB, Virginia Tech (PRI/PRO) (COM) Kyle Van Noy, LB, BYU (PRI) Jimmie Ward, DB, Northern Illinois (PRI) Keith Wenning, QB, Ball State (PRI) Terrance West%, RB, Towson (LOC) (COM) Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (COM) 2015 WR DeVante Parker, Louisville LB Shane Ray, Missouri RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana OT La'el Collins, LSU RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin CB Eric Rowe, Utah DL Randy Gregory, Nebraska CB P.J. Williams, Florida State OL Robert Myers, Tennessee State* OL A.J. Cann, South Carolina* LB Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State CB Marcus Peters, Washington CB Tray Walker, Texas Southern WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri RB Jay Ajayi, Boise State WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida CB Jalen Collins, LSU CB/KR Chris Dunkley, USF TE Jesse James, Penn State RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana WR Phillip Dorsett, Miami 2016 Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson (COM) Joey Bosa^, DE/3-4OLB, Ohio State (COM, PRI) James Bradberry, CB, Samford (SR) Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State (PRI) Blake Countess, CB, Auburn (PRI) Joe Dahl, G/OT, Washington State (STM) Sean Davis^, FS/CB, Maryland (COM, LOC, STM) Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama (SR) Leonard Floyd, OLB/3-4OLB, Georgia (PRI) Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida (PRI) Darien Harris, OLB, Michigan State (LOC) Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (WOR) Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford (WOR) Tyrone Holmes, DE, Montana (EW) Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA (PRI) Darius Jackson, RB, Eastern Michigan (PRI) William Jackson III, CB, Houston (PRI) Quinton Jefferson, DT, Maryland (LOC) Cyrus Jones^, CB, Alabama (PRI, LOC) Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (PRI) Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia (PRI) Jay Lee^, WR, Baylor (SR, PRI) Tyler Matakevich, ILB/OLB, Temple (SR) Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State (WOR) Robert Nkemdiche, DT/DE/3-4DE, Ole Miss (PRI) Emmanuel Ogbah, DE/3-4DE, Oklahoma State (WOR) David Onyemata, DT, Manitoba (EW) Will Parks, SS, Arizona (PRO) Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama (PRI) Jalen Ramsey^, CB/S, Florida State (COM, PRI) Jake Rudock, QB, Michigan (WOR) Ryan Smith, CB, North Carolina Central (WOR) Noah Spence^, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Eastern Kentucky (COM, PRI) Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana (WOR) Ronnie Stanley^, OT, Notre Dame (COM, PRI) Charles Tapper, DE/3-4DE, Oklahoma (COM) Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (WOR) Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss (COM) Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State (SR) Tavon Young^, CB, Temple (WOR, PRI) 2017 Keion Adams, DE, Western Michigan (PRO) Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston (PRI) Connor Bozick, OT, Delaware (LOC) Caleb Brantley, DT/NT, Florida (PRI) Taco Charlton, DE/3-4OLB, Michigan (PRO) Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin (SR) Zach Cunningham, OLB/ILB, Vanderbilt (COM) Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan (PRI) Kevin Davis, ILB, Colorado State (EW) Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (PRI) Ryan Glasgow, DT, Michigan (PRO) Malik Golden, SS, Penn State (PRI) Trey Hendrickson, DE, Florida Atlantic (PRO) Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming (PRO) Josh Jones, S, N.C. State (PRI) Kevin King, CB, Washington (PRI) Tanoh Kpassagnon^, DE/3-4DE, Villanova (PRI, WOR) Ashton Lampkin, CB, Oklahoma State (EW) Marquel Lee, ILB, Wake Forest (WOR) William Likely, CB, Maryland (LOC) Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech (PRO) Nyme Manns, WR, Bowie State (LOC) Malik McDowell, DT/3-4DE, Michigan State (PRI) Takkarist McKinley^, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, UCLA (STM, PRI) Deon-Tay McManus, WR, Marshall (LOC) Raekwon McMillan, ILB, Ohio State (PRI) Jordan Morgan, G, Kutztown (SR) Teldrick Morgan, WR, Maryland (LOC) Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan (PRI) Ethan Pocic, C/G, LSU (SR) Dayon Pratt, OLB, East Carolina (PRO) Haason Reddick, OLB, Temple (PRI) Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (PRI) Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown State (PRI) Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (PRI) John Ross, WR, Washington (PRI) Justin Senior, OT, Mississippi State (SR) Jordan Sterns, S, Oklahoma State (SR) Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky (SR) Noel Thomas, WR, Connecticut (PRO) Eddie Vanderdoes, DT/3-4DE/NT, UCLA (SR) Darius Victor, RB, Towson (LOC) Davis Webb, QB, California (PRI) Tim White, WR, Arizona State (WOR) Darrell Williams, OT, Western Kentucky (WOR) Mike Williams, WR, Clemson (PRI) Tim Williams, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Alabama (PRI) Jordan Willis, DE/3-4OLB/OLB, Kansas State (PRI) Chris Wormley^, DT/DE/3-4DE, Michigan (PRO, PRI) Deangelo Yancey^, WR, Purdue (STM, PRO, PRI) So what does this tell us? Well, we met with our eventual first round pick every year in which we had a first round pick in this sample size, so it seems like they don't purposely not interview the players they want in the first. After the first though... it seems like a crap-shoot. We interview around 25 prospects for every 1 we actually draft. Most of the players we draft each year after the first round are never even interviewed, at least according to what we know from these databases. Of our second round picks over this stretch, we only interviewed Torrey Smith. What I wish I had consistent in all of this data is when/where we are meeting these prospects. A meeting in private might be weighted more heavily than a meeting at the EW Shrine Game, for example. Another thing we will never know is just how much the Ravens actually coveted a player they didn't even have a chance to draft. For example, the Ravens never actually interviewed Khalil Mack, but they attempted to trade up from 17 to get him. They interviewed and really coveted Marcus Peters, but they never had the chance to draft him. And they twice met with and then tried to trade up for Jalen Ramsey, but Jerry Jones thought we actually wanted Elliott for some reason, so that never happened. Needless to say, it's hard to know who they really want in a given year. Anyway, this list is nostalgic if nothing else.

He was but he was the victim in that situation. She wanted to go home with him for some fun and he said no so she punch him in the face

Derek barnett will have a better first year than Myles Garrett!!

Surviving the death of a child is the hardest thing any parent will ever go through WBAL Link. Prayers and healing energy to the family.

I don't want to have to deal with that stress on Christmas Day again. Give me another team's grudge match and let me enjoy my presents in peace.

Well. Given that the forum is shutting down.... I don't care if you are of the opinion of "you're making too many mocks. You need to stop. Devote your time and energy elsewhere. Make another mock "draft telking lyke diz. Et wuz funne" ". Well screw you, I am making one this week, next week, and draft week just to spite you! And then I'm making one the week after that! Why? Because we are going under anyway. Why the hell should I care? Here we go. Round One: Corey Davis, WR *As soon as we draft him. Joe Flacco goes down on his knees in the war room and starts kissing Ozzie's feet.* Joe: "Finally. I have a guy I can build with. Why have you neglected me for so long?" I love Perriman, and I think Joe and Wallace have great chemsitry. But we have the chance to draft a polished guy who can come in immediately and be a #1 WR. He's a good route runner, and smooth. He'd be a hell of a compliment to Perriman, and a red zone threat. Oh, and like Perriman he's good at jump balls. It's about damn time we catch up with the rest of the AFC north. Round Two: Tim Williams, OLB I'd be happy with either Alabama OLB. Williams is the better pass rusher between the two and I think he could have an immediate impact here as an edge player. I have a feeling that Ozzie would be a little more lenient with an Alabama player. Round Three: Pat Elflein, C See literally almost all of my mock drafts. I think with us trading Jernigan(the dumbest move of the offseason by far), we could compensate by finding a future center. Elflein would help our offensive line find an identity. He's nasty, but has some clear-cut issues. However, these issues are coachable, and some of them resulted from unconventional playcalling(credit to @-Truth- for pointing this out to me) that honestly set him up for failure at times. Round Three pt 2: Jake Butt, TE Spoiler alert: Jake Butt will be in every single one of my mocks. Round Four: Cameron Sutton, CB Round 5: Conor McDermott, OT "Bigger and Stronger Offensive line". Well, at 6'9, McDermott covers the bigger part. Let's finally get rid of Hurst shall we? McDermott is NOT a LT at the pro level. But with proper coaching and conditioning he could turn into a very intimidating RT. Which is something we need. He's a much better run blocker than pass blocker and was the only good player on UCLA's oline last season. Overall, even in the piss poor oline class, I feel that McDermott has potential to be a starting RT at the NFL level. Worst case scenario is that we sign a stop-gap like Dunlap and develop McDermott who could be a backup swing tackle. Round 6: Ezra Robinson, CB Another CB. Because we seem obsessed with adding some depth there Anyway, that's my mock. You'll be getting another one sometime next week, and then on draft day. And then after draft day.

To be fair, Stanley will man handle everyone

I didn't know mark Sanchez was in this draft class

Myles Garrett gets man handled by Stanley giving up zero sacks and zero QB pressures.

I think Boyle is being considered for juices old role, he fits the bill perfectly as a hard nosed road grader and good route runner who can catch. He may actually be an improvement. Allen would need a lot of coaching for that change, he wouldn't need to slim down much because it would take away from his powerful style, but it's an interesting concept, just a long shot. Wouldn't be against the experiment

football is back

Who will be hiking the ball to Joe? Kinda important

I'm convinced this account was made and owned by the Baltimore Ravens last season to boost alcohol sales at games.

im a masochist

Nobody but Todd and Jesus can feel Todd's pain or understand it, but we all share in his sorrow. May God comfort the entire Heap family at this time of unimaginable loss. Keep the faith, Todd!

I tried. 1. Browns - Myles Garrett DE - The Browns try their hardest to not mess this one up. 2. 49'ers - Jamal Adams S 3. Bears - Soloman Thomas DE 4. Jags - Leonard Fournette RB - Apparently me and every guy at nfl.com agree. 5. Titans - Malik Hooker S 6. Jets - Deshaun Watson QB 7. Chargers - Marshon Lattimore CB 8. Panthers - Jonathan Allen DT 9. Bengals - Reuben Foster LB 10. Bills - Mike Williams WR 11. Saints - John Ross WR - He jumps up boards cause of that 40. 12. Browns - Mitch Trubisky QB - Pretty standard picks at #1 and #12 as of late, but they do answer most of the Browns' problems outside of the curse that's on their franchise. 13. Cardinals - Ryan Ramczyk - Some reaches on O-line like always. 14. Eagles - O.J. Howard 15. Colts - Haason Reddick - His impressive workouts push him up, and someone puts too much stock in Derek Barnett's slow 40 times. I know it seems unlikely, but some of the monster workouts and load of great skill position players in the draft let this happen: 16. Ravens - Derek Barnett DE Barnett falls because scouts will see issues with athleticism, but the Ravens will have zero concerns. It's a flashback to 2003, and the team grabs a potential Suggs 2.0. 47. JuJu Smith-Schuster WR His tape shows a strong guy with some speed, and most importantly good hands. I think he's the type of WR we're looking for and can give Joe a reliable pass catcher. 74. Ahkello Witherspoon There are real concerns about his physicality on the field, and that makes him slide, because if it weren't for that I'd actually have Witherspoon in the mid-2nd. If that doesn't become an issue though, we get a very good defensive back with some serious length, speed, and room to grow. 78. Will Holden RT This might seem like a reach, but the guy was a 3.5 year starter at left tackle, and his athleticism issues wouldn't be as glaring at RT. We've done alright developing linemen we've drafted recently, and I think we can make him a starter on the OL.

I'd like to see Waller go back to WR, at least for some random looks. I think he could really shine if used properly.

Matt Elam is not eligible for the draft. As are players with out a pulse.

Whoa. This may be brilliant--let's give the Ravens a taste of what they'll get via social media lol

More like spreading misinformation. Superbowels are a servere medical condition. They matter a lot.

1. If you're in the middle of a super "bowel" you should see a doctor. 2. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Nor should it be. Lets shut this joint down with a little class.

Flacco should be 4-0 vs the Pats in their house. If Lee Evans holds on and if the defense could hold onto either of the 14 point leads.

Sid Jones drops to us in round 3 and Ozzie makes the call.

Myles Garrett will be far from the best defender in this class

Davis Webb becomes the best QB from this class - maybe not right away, but in a couple of years. The Ravens wait until day 3 to draft a CB.

Not to mention his bend that is just not human like. His balance when he drops that shoulder and shortens those wide turns into the pocket are unreal, it may be the best bend I've ever seen from a college prospect, and best I've seen since Demarcus ware. His burst is ten times what upshaws was, he has an insane bend which upshaw has none of, his hands coming out are better than upshaws in year 4, his inside rush actually involves a setup and disengage, all upshaw did was bullrush, and he isn't the most explosive but he does have an extra gear to take advantage of the slightest opening which he does very consistently. How anyone could dislike Barnett is beyond me, I understand some want an athletic freak edge rusher, but bending and disengaging are hands down the most important aspects of pass rushing and Barnett crushes everyone in those categories.

I truly expect over the last days here to see this become the march of the beer guts.

^ goes out of his way to make a re-final mock to have us taking McDowell in the first round, guy comes out a few hours later as a flat Earther on twitter...whelp, guess who's making a new mock next week.

Going by Elam's Twitter feed I think he was already ruled out by LiT's criteria.

alpha males with that fast twitch muscle everyone else is a guaranteed bust

Better yet. A collection of cells that forms a coherent human being

Please tell me you've seen The Shining........

You have done that yourself.

pahahaha

Welcome to this year's modified version of Final Free Agency where you have to do all of the work yourself! Here's the list of all of the FAs from the entirety of the game: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tWzhMC1n0kJAJNHdRWdLNx6GS5wvtEuBF4fNUhrlPbw/ You have been given the duty to find guys that either weren't signed or were cut after their position group... and boom, you get them and you don't even have to bid. In other positive news, you can sign 1 player every hour starting at 7pm EST tonight for the low, low price of 0.5 stars. But wait, there's more! ...okay there's not more. If you sign a guy that has already been signed, you will be banned from this site effective May 6th. Go crazy, kids. Go crazy.

Jennings and sharpe, actual longtime NFL players and performed as some of the best in the league at their positions, and super bowl winners... all agreed

haha what a draft Mark

Phone book? What is that?

Ozzie passes on Sid Jones in the 2nd and he is gone b4 our 3rd round pick.

Our heart and prayers to go up for The Heap Family. To loose a child at any age is tragic. But to loose one in the way your family has, I believe is the most tragic. We don't know why things happen as they do. We can only pray that in some small way that knowledge will come to you and give you peace. We lost our fifth child on Christmas Eve morning in 1978. I blamed myself because I wasn't home I was working overtime at work. I felt that it was my duty to sacrifice my time with the family to earn the money we needed .Everyone experiences their losses differently. We couldn't find peace. We were members of the Episcopal Church. But no peace. We started to attend a Spirit Filled Church we found peace. My fellow workers were so supportive, We were so young we didn't know how to show our appreciation.Our process took years. To this day, there are times when we are caught off guard and we relive the events of that Christmas Eve morning.And that will be 39 years ago this coming Christmas Eve morning. I pray that peace will come swiftly to Todd and Ashley and their other four children.The Lord says "Come unto Me All who are troubled and heavily burdened and I will give you rest." "Take My Yoke upon you and I will give you peace. Lay your sorrows upon Me and I will give you Joy unceasing." Our prayers are that God will lift this family and carry them through these difficult times. God says suffer not the little children, let them come unto ME. All of us are His Children. Todd and Ashley We pray that your child will RIP . I believe she is already home with the Lord.

So you must never watch the evening news then. I mean none of that is any of your business then is it? Heck if you want to look at it through your point of view how is what I post any of your business? No one expects Todd Heap to read this thread. It is not about him. It is about us as a community supporting him with our thoughts and prayers. The death of Todd Heaps daughter effects many of us. If you say it doesn't effect you then there are bigger issues at hand. And yes to varying degrees I can relate. Can you?

I'd poop if our draft turned out like this

After their first NFL game.

You have got to be trolling us.