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  1. 8 points
    The Webb deal is fantastic. There are several possibilities now. 1. We can move Jefferson down to ILB on nickle/dime packages while Webb plays safety. Allowing Jefferson to cover TEs(something he does very well), and having two good safeties over the top 2. Webb can play slot CB when Jimmy goes down. Tavon proved he's more than capable of holding his own on the outside. Webb provides much needed depth and veteran experience. 3. 3 safety sets could be a thing now. We use a third safety a lot in the rotation, and Webb would still be playing a lot. All in all I think it is safe to say we have the best safety core in the entire league. We need to go draft an edge rusher and I like the direction of the defense
  2. 7 points
    I made this thread last year, so I figured I'd update it for this year. It's mostly copy/paste, but I've updated it somewhat. It's no secret that teams interview prospects for many different reasons, ranging from genuine interest to purposely feigning interest to trick other teams. In addition, teams will never meet or speak with certain prospects and then draft them, much to the surprise of the player himself. So this got me wondering: how strong of a connection is there between the Ravens' prospect interviews and actually drafting them? Taking what I could find from various sites, I composed a list, highlighting those we actually brought in either through the draft, UDFA, or waivers. 2011 *Baylor guard Danny Watkins (3/16). *Georgia defensive end Justin Houston (3/21, ). +Illinois linebacker Martez Wilson (3/21, 4/?). *Virginia Tech running back Ryan Williams (3/21). *Purdue defensive end Ryan Kerrigan (3/22). +Abilene Christian wide receiver Edmund Gates (3/23, 3/27). *Georgia linebacker Akeem Dent (3/?). *Miami cornerback Demarcus Van Dyke (3/?). *Utah State cornerback Curtis Marsh (3/?). *UT-Chattanooga cornerback Buster Skrine (3/24). *Florida State guard/center Rodney Hudson (3/?). +Temple defensive tackle Muhammad Wilkerson (3/28). *Arizona defensive end Brooks Reed (3/28). *Arizona defensive end Ricky Elmore (3/28). *Appalachian State safety Mark LeGree (3/29). Maryland wide receiver Torrey Smith (3/29). Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith (3/29). *Oregon linebacker Casey Matthews (3/30). *Lehigh guard/tackle Will Rackley (3/30). *Texas cornerback Curtis Brown (3/?). Iowa defensive lineman Christian Ballard (3/?). *Missouri defensive end Aldon Smith (?/?). *Rice defensive end Cheta Ozougwu (?/?). *Richmond cornerback Justin Rogers (?/?). *Delaware safety Anthony Walters (?/?). *Illinois defensive tackle Corey Liuget (?/?). Pittsburgh wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin (?/?). Georgia wide receiver Kris Durham (?/?). *Texas linebacker/defensive end Sam Acho (3/?). *Baldwin-Wallace linebacker Keith Darbut (4/?). +Virginia Union offensive tackle David Mims (4/6). UCLA linebacker Akeem Ayers (4/7). North Carolina wide receiver Greg Little (4/7). North Carolina defensive end Robert Quinn (4/7). Mississippi linebacker Jonathan Cornell (4/7). Pittsburgh defensive end Jabaal Sheard (4/8). Louisiana Tech return specialist Phillip Livas (4/20). South Carolina cornerback Chris Culliver (4/20). 2012 +Oklahoma State offensive tackle Levy Adcock (?/?). Miami (Ohio) guard Brandon Brooks (?/?). LSU cornerback Ron Brooks (3/30). *North Carolina linebacker Zach Brown (4/?). +Delaware guard/center Gino Gradkowski (?/?). Oregon State cornerback Brandon Hardin (?/?). Georgia Tech receiver Stephen Hill (4/5). Pittsburgh cornerback Buddy Jackson (3/30). Illinois receiver A.J. Jenkins (4/4). Virginia defensive end Cam Johnson (4/?). *Georgia center Ben Jones (?/?). California linebacker Mychal Kendricks (4/?). Alabama cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick (?/?). Wisconsin center Peter Konz (4/?). *Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead (4/4). *USC defensive end Nick Perry (3/?). Central Florida cornerback Josh Robinson (3/30). UCLA receiver Nelson Rosario (4/3). Syracuse safety Phillip Thomas (3/30). *Texas kicker Justin Tucker (4/24). Utah State linebacker Bobby Wagner (?/?). *Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler (?/?). 2013 Tavon Austin%, WR, West Virginia (PRI) (COM) Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon (SR) Steve Beauharnais, LB, Rutgers (SR) Tommy Bohanon, FB, Wake Forest (SR) Michael Buchanan, DL, Illinois (SR) Tank Carradine%, DE, Florida State (PRI) (COM) Braxston Cave, OL, Notre Dame (SR) DeWayne Cherrington, DL, Mississippi State (PRO) Brandon Copeland, DL, Penn (PRO) Jordan Devey, OL, Memphis (EW) Quinton Dial, DL, Alabama (INT) Lavar Edwards, DL, LSU (SR) Matt Elam, S, Florida (COM) Josh Evans, S, Florida (COM) D.J. Fluker%, OT, Alabama (PRI) (COM) Corey Fuller, WR, Virginia Tech (COM) Dwayne Gratz, DB, Connecticut (SR#) Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State (VINT) DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson (COM) Dustin Hopkins, PK, Florida State (SR) Wes Horton, DL, USC (EW) Margus Hunt%, DE, SMU (PRI) (COM) Stefphon Jefferson, RB, Nevada (COM) Brandon Jenkins, DE, Florida State (COM) Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma (COM) Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati (PRI) Tavarres King, WR, Georgia (SR) Kevin Minter%, ILB, LSU (PRI) (COM) Damontre Moore, DL, Texas A&M (PRI) Sio Moore, LB, Connecticut (PRI) Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia (PRI) Alex Okafor, DL, Texas (SR) Toben Opurum, FB, Kansas (INT) Ryan Otten, TE, San Jose State (SR) Chris Pantale, TE, Boston College (COM) Will Pericak, DL, Colorado (PRI) Keith Pough, LB, Howard (INT) Justin Pugh%, OL, Syracuse (PRI) (SR#) David Quessenberry, OL, San Jose State (SR) Bacarri Rambo, DB, Georgia (PRI) Kevin Reddick, LB, North Carolina (COM) Brian Schwenke, OL, California (SR) Russell Shepard, WR, LSU (PRI) D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina (COM) Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M (SR) Cooper Taylor, DB, Richmond (PRI) Jamar Taylor, DB, Boise State (PRI) Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford (SR) Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas (COM) Conner Vernon, WR, Duke (SR) Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State (COM) Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State (SR) Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina (COM) Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State (EW) 2014 Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (COM) Jeremiah Attaochu, LB, Georgia Tech (COM) Kelvin Benjamin%, WR, Florida State (PRI) (COM) Chris Borland%, LB, Wisconsin (COM) (SR) Chris Boswell, PK, Rice (SR) Jonathan Brown, LB, Illinois (SR) Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson (PRI) Deone Bucannon, DB, Washington State (PRI) Christopher Burnette, G, Georgia (EW) Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest (LOC) Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona (COM) Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, DB, Alabama (PRO) Mike Davis%, WR, Texas (COM) (SR%) Aaron Donald, DL, Pittsburgh (COM) Dominique Easley, DL, Florida (PRO) Eric Ebron%, TE, North Carolina (PRI) (COM) Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (COM) Dee Ford, DL, Auburn (COM) Khairi Fortt, LB, California (PRI) Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois (PRI) Kevin Graf, OL, Southern California (EW) Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State (COM) Gabe Jackson, OL, Mississippi State (SR) Kenny Ladler, DB, Vanderbilt (SR) Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU (COM) Tyler Larsen, OL, Utah State (SR) Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana (PRO) Marqise Lee%, WR, USC (PRI) (COM) Jordan Love, DB, Towson (LOC) Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt (COM) A.J. McCarron, QB, Alabama (PRI) Dexter McDougle, DB, Maryland (PRI) Keith McGill, DB, Utah (PRI) Morgan Moses, OL, Virginia (COM) C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama (PRI) Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama (SR) Cody Parkey, K, Auburn (SR) Jacob Pedersen, TE, Wisconsin (SR) Joe Rankin, DB, Morgan State (LOC) Michael Sam%, LB, Missouri (INT) (COM) (SR) Kiero Small, RB, Arkansas (LOC) Telvin Smith, LB, Florida State (SR) Logan Thomas%, QB, Virginia Tech (PRI/PRO) (COM) Kyle Van Noy, LB, BYU (PRI) Jimmie Ward, DB, Northern Illinois (PRI) Keith Wenning, QB, Ball State (PRI) Terrance West%, RB, Towson (LOC) (COM) Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (COM) 2015 WR DeVante Parker, Louisville LB Shane Ray, Missouri RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana OT La'el Collins, LSU RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin CB Eric Rowe, Utah DL Randy Gregory, Nebraska CB P.J. Williams, Florida State OL Robert Myers, Tennessee State* OL A.J. Cann, South Carolina* LB Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State CB Marcus Peters, Washington CB Tray Walker, Texas Southern WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri RB Jay Ajayi, Boise State WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida CB Jalen Collins, LSU CB/KR Chris Dunkley, USF TE Jesse James, Penn State RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana WR Phillip Dorsett, Miami 2016 Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson (COM) Joey Bosa^, DE/3-4OLB, Ohio State (COM, PRI) James Bradberry, CB, Samford (SR) Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State (PRI) Blake Countess, CB, Auburn (PRI) Joe Dahl, G/OT, Washington State (STM) Sean Davis^, FS/CB, Maryland (COM, LOC, STM) Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama (SR) Leonard Floyd, OLB/3-4OLB, Georgia (PRI) Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida (PRI) Darien Harris, OLB, Michigan State (LOC) Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (WOR) Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford (WOR) Tyrone Holmes, DE, Montana (EW) Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA (PRI) Darius Jackson, RB, Eastern Michigan (PRI) William Jackson III, CB, Houston (PRI) Quinton Jefferson, DT, Maryland (LOC) Cyrus Jones^, CB, Alabama (PRI, LOC) Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (PRI) Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia (PRI) Jay Lee^, WR, Baylor (SR, PRI) Tyler Matakevich, ILB/OLB, Temple (SR) Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State (WOR) Robert Nkemdiche, DT/DE/3-4DE, Ole Miss (PRI) Emmanuel Ogbah, DE/3-4DE, Oklahoma State (WOR) David Onyemata, DT, Manitoba (EW) Will Parks, SS, Arizona (PRO) Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama (PRI) Jalen Ramsey^, CB/S, Florida State (COM, PRI) Jake Rudock, QB, Michigan (WOR) Ryan Smith, CB, North Carolina Central (WOR) Noah Spence^, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Eastern Kentucky (COM, PRI) Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana (WOR) Ronnie Stanley^, OT, Notre Dame (COM, PRI) Charles Tapper, DE/3-4DE, Oklahoma (COM) Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (WOR) Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss (COM) Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State (SR) Tavon Young^, CB, Temple (WOR, PRI) 2017 Keion Adams, DE, Western Michigan (PRO) Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston (PRI) Connor Bozick, OT, Delaware (LOC) Caleb Brantley, DT/NT, Florida (PRI) Taco Charlton, DE/3-4OLB, Michigan (PRO) Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin (SR) Zach Cunningham, OLB/ILB, Vanderbilt (COM) Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan (PRI) Kevin Davis, ILB, Colorado State (EW) Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (PRI) Ryan Glasgow, DT, Michigan (PRO) Malik Golden, SS, Penn State (PRI) Trey Hendrickson, DE, Florida Atlantic (PRO) Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming (PRO) Josh Jones, S, N.C. State (PRI) Kevin King, CB, Washington (PRI) Tanoh Kpassagnon^, DE/3-4DE, Villanova (PRI, WOR) Ashton Lampkin, CB, Oklahoma State (EW) Marquel Lee, ILB, Wake Forest (WOR) William Likely, CB, Maryland (LOC) Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech (PRO) Nyme Manns, WR, Bowie State (LOC) Malik McDowell, DT/3-4DE, Michigan State (PRI) Takkarist McKinley^, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, UCLA (STM, PRI) Deon-Tay McManus, WR, Marshall (LOC) Raekwon McMillan, ILB, Ohio State (PRI) Jordan Morgan, G, Kutztown (SR) Teldrick Morgan, WR, Maryland (LOC) Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan (PRI) Ethan Pocic, C/G, LSU (SR) Dayon Pratt, OLB, East Carolina (PRO) Haason Reddick, OLB, Temple (PRI) Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (PRI) Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown State (PRI) Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (PRI) John Ross, WR, Washington (PRI) Justin Senior, OT, Mississippi State (SR) Jordan Sterns, S, Oklahoma State (SR) Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky (SR) Noel Thomas, WR, Connecticut (PRO) Eddie Vanderdoes, DT/3-4DE/NT, UCLA (SR) Darius Victor, RB, Towson (LOC) Davis Webb, QB, California (PRI) Tim White, WR, Arizona State (WOR) Darrell Williams, OT, Western Kentucky (WOR) Mike Williams, WR, Clemson (PRI) Tim Williams, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Alabama (PRI) Jordan Willis, DE/3-4OLB/OLB, Kansas State (PRI) Chris Wormley^, DT/DE/3-4DE, Michigan (PRO, PRI) Deangelo Yancey^, WR, Purdue (STM, PRO, PRI) So what does this tell us? Well, we met with our eventual first round pick every year in which we had a first round pick in this sample size, so it seems like they don't purposely not interview the players they want in the first. After the first though... it seems like a crap-shoot. We interview around 25 prospects for every 1 we actually draft. Most of the players we draft each year after the first round are never even interviewed, at least according to what we know from these databases. Of our second round picks over this stretch, we only interviewed Torrey Smith. What I wish I had consistent in all of this data is when/where we are meeting these prospects. A meeting in private might be weighted more heavily than a meeting at the EW Shrine Game, for example. Another thing we will never know is just how much the Ravens actually coveted a player they didn't even have a chance to draft. For example, the Ravens never actually interviewed Khalil Mack, but they attempted to trade up from 17 to get him. They interviewed and really coveted Marcus Peters, but they never had the chance to draft him. And they twice met with and then tried to trade up for Jalen Ramsey, but Jerry Jones thought we actually wanted Elliott for some reason, so that never happened. Needless to say, it's hard to know who they really want in a given year. Anyway, this list is nostalgic if nothing else.
  3. 7 points
    All posts on my last day might just be pictures of Lindsey Duke. You're welcome.
  4. 7 points
    So so sorry to learn of this. It has been a lot of fun for the last many years and I will miss some of the characters I have looked forward to hearing from in the game threads. It is especially appreciated as someone who lived a good number of years in Baltimore and now lives several states away. I may be in New England, but I will never cheer for those Patriots. I will miss a lot of my Ravens friends. Peace and blessings to all!
  5. 6 points
    Maybe you think that but the actual smart people in the league don't. RTs or OGs make about 12 mil per year max. Chandler Jones is getting way more than that and he ain't the only one. Also where did I say I wanted Leary? Are you even reading what I said? I said he outplayed Collins at Guard which he did. Collins at RT is a question mark given he hasn't played the position in the NFL. The fact the Cowboys didn't play him there with Doug Free being their weakest link could indicate they aren't huge fans of him at RT. Also Collins was not a better prospect than Stanley or Tunsil and I'd take Scherff over him as well. Sorry but trading the 16th pick for a guard/RT a year from FA is stupid.
  6. 6 points
    Who will be hiking the ball to Joe? Kinda important
  7. 6 points
    And there was much rejoicing.
  8. 6 points
    Just take your ball and go home. 😀
  9. 6 points
    Literally only one person on this entire forum wants him
  10. 6 points
    ok so here goes another ridiculous disaster by nfl.com chad reuter mocked these things... takk mckinley 8th overall to the panthers ravens passing on malik hooker malik hooker falling to 17 jordan willis 21st to detroit reuben foster 24th to oakland kevin king 26th to seattle dalvin cook falling to 27 josh jones 28 to dallas man, what a mock.
  11. 5 points
    And my wife and my daughter. All three of us have Webb jerseys .
  12. 4 points
    and webby is coming back on a 3 year deal - i imagine he'll retire as a raven now
  13. 4 points
    Jason Verrett, Brandon Flowers, Antoine Winfield, Chris Harris Jr are all very close to Young in height.
  14. 4 points
    Talking to other buddies who are fans of other teams, they couldn't believe that the Ravens actually had official message boards. I think these boards are one of the few ways to keep fans actively involved in the offseason. I understand the boards are not as active as they are the years the team is more competitive, but it seems like every year someone releases most loyal and knowledgable fans in the NFL. The Ravens always rank in the top 5 and are known to have very smart fans. With less of these conversations I do think that takes a hit.. I wouldn't be surprised if the team notices a slight drop off in loyal fans. But in the end it comes down to money. I hope all of you join us at boardhost.
  15. 3 points
    Stupid to give up the 16th pick for an average guard a year from FA? YEAH, why else do you think you are getting negged like crazy lol. Considering how Leary did well in 2014 and this past year while Free has struggled the past couple years, yeah it would make more sense for the Cowboys to move Collins to RT if they liked him there. They didn't move him though and if they are more comfortable with Free at the position, doesn't really look good for Collins at RT here. Yeah, had Scherff higher and still do. Considering he went in the top 5 while Collins was maybe the 15th best player in the class before the whole situation with him, I'd say a lot of people agree with me. You really need to get over your man crush on Collins, it is getting kinda sad at this point. Pretty sure people have already commented loads of people better than Collins around the league. Go dig for it and watch some actual film on those guys. Honestly I would love to be around RSR just for the entertainment value of watching you say Collins is better than guys like KO, Yanda, among many others but I'm gonna have to pass that responsibility to others. Don't worry, I am sure they will laugh at you just as much haha
  16. 3 points
    Nah. We appreciate him no matter what.
  17. 3 points
    Thank you Lardarius Webb for coming back.
  18. 3 points
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  20. 3 points
  21. 3 points
    No suspense on my end, I know I am going to be front and center haha
  22. 3 points
    Adam Schefter‏ @AdamSchefter Ravens re-signed CB Ladarius Webb, whom Baltimore released earlier this off-season, per source. It's also a 3 year deal
  23. 3 points
    Yea... I think it is true to say that you don't NEED a great WR to win a super bowl, but not to the extreme of saying that great WRs don't win Super Bowls. Brady's always had a number of weapons - Gronk as you pointed out but also Edelman and last year Hogan played a big role, Bennett and they just got Cooks. Denver had Demaryius and Sanders. Even Seattle - Baldwin really started breaking out. You think about our SB and the plays that got us there... the Pitta/Boldin vertical seam TD catches in the red zone, Jacoby in Denver, Joe's ballsy audible to throw to Boldin hot for that 1st down conversion with the game on the line, Pitta's multiple huge 1st down catches while getting drilled... Torrey stretching the field. Our loss to NE the year before came down to a WR not making a play. Otherwise we're in back to back SB's. We always cite Joe's crazy run... but it also coincided with his weapons playing the best they have since he's been here. And Williams, imo, fits exactly what Joe's missing. That Boldin/Pitta 2012 presence of being open when covered, making the crucial tough catches in crunch time. Theres players id take over Williams, but certainly not passing him up just bc you can get away with not having great WRs.
  24. 3 points
    Ah this thread brings back memories
  25. 3 points
  26. 3 points
    Well there's definitely no way we would give up a 1st round pick for a udfa lineman with 1 year NFL starting experience for a 1 year rental - and he wasn't even a top 3-4 lineman in his own draft before his dramatic fall anyway i know you love kelly but why would we draft him and when would he play or how would he even make the roster because there is no way we'd carry more than 2 qbs and we already have both our starter and our backup at this point - any other qbs we bring in are purely camp arms
  27. 3 points
    It is interesting--I will just say I think the Panthers used a 2nd round tender on Andrew Norwell, I think I would rather that if we did something like what you are suggesting..but I still would rather we keep the pick. The difficulty for me is that La'el Collins is close to getting his second contract and if he plays up to his potential (which he has not yet) than we likely would just let him walk. I would much rather we just draft an OL at some point keep our first, have several good years and plan for a contract extension if/when it all works out
  28. 2 points
    Can we all just agree that this is far from the realm of possibility and illogical?
  29. 2 points
    Collins could get better if he can stay healthy but 16 for Collins is just hilarious and if after 4 pages of people pointing out how stupid it is, you still are riding that hype train, there is really no helping you lol
  30. 2 points
    I'm just happy that Webb is back where he belongs. He is after all one of the few life long Ravens! Good for him and better for all of us! Welcome back and the first order of business is obviously to reclaim that #21!
  31. 2 points
    Welcome home Webby! Glad to have you back in the nest!
  32. 2 points
    I think he would probably just fair catch punts.
  33. 2 points
    May I say this suggestion is..... Delightful. It only makes sense on the Day of Star Wars that we have free reign to say and do whatever we want. This way the Forum of the Ravens will be DELETED gracefully.
  34. 2 points
    Lets the FO worry about the contract; I'm happy that Webby is back cuz he loves Ravens nation as much as we love him...he's done so many positive things for the community. Welcome back Webb!!
  35. 2 points
    I would say cherry picking is calling a guy an all pro because he had a strong November and December... taking into consideration a shaky first 10 weeks is actually the exact opposite of cherry picking
  36. 2 points
    Depends on how much is guaranteed. Being able to step in at corner ups his value as well.
  37. 2 points
    Aaaaaand.......another yankee loss in Bmore! Yes!
  38. 2 points
    You and my oldest son get some more mileage out of that jersey!
  39. 2 points
  40. 2 points
    That is all I would pay for him if that, now if Zach Martin or Travis Frederick were on the trading block I'd be for giving up a decent amount although giving up 16 for almost anyone is still a really stupid move. The fact you think giving up that much draft capital is worth it tells me just how inexperienced at this you are. Ah there it is, he is big and was one of your favorite players. Well shoot, I remember Ramon Harewood was even bigger, so maybe we should bring him back too, really help our line out. Also Collins being 6'5" is really important, really helps him get leverage over shorter defenders because we all know the high man wins right? We all have draft crushes but just because they are your favorite player doesn't really mean much and is a great way to get burned when evaluating draft prospects. Happens to everyone here and you can't let stuff like that cloud your judgement when evaluating these guys. Heck it happens all the time here even with current players. There was a time where people thought guys like Marlon Brown and Asa Jackson would be good for us. Players get hyped in camp every year and a lot of people get hit with a reality check come the regular season and those guys disappoint. Sometimes it works out like with Rick Wagner or Zach Orr but often we get Elams, Tommy Streeters, Aaron Mellettes, or Gino Gradkowskis. Collins while a solid Guard is not worth giving up our 16th pick. In the current state of the NFL, draft picks are crazy valuable not just because guys are young but also because in the CBA they are dirt cheap. If you get a good player at a pick, you can get great value out of them in comparison to their actual worth. Once they are done their rookie contract however they get paid market value and FA prices are rarely a bargain for a team. We would only have Collins a year before having to pay him market value while with the 16th pick we get a potential stud for 4 or 5 years at a good price(see CJ Mosley or Ronnie Stanley, our latest top 20 picks).
  41. 2 points
    he's not even the best young lineman on his own team here are all the lineman in the league off the top of my head who have proven themselves better than lael collins: travis frederick, zach martin, tyron smith, joe thomas, andrew whitworth, trent williams, kelechi osemele, marshal yanda, donald penn, alex mack, joe thomas, ronnie stanley, jack conklin, laremy tunsil, taylor decker, joel bitonio, taylor lewan, brandon scherff, david decastro, kevin zeitler, richie incognito, bryan bulaga, matt paradis, terron armstead, trai turner, josh sitton, tj lang, mitchell schwartz, lane johnson, jason peters... and many more... now linemen are obviously crucially important and often younger guys grow into their roles so its feasible and likely that lael collins improves - but if you look at my above list you will notice that it contains lots of guys of both similar ages and younger who have already surpassed him - even if he has a vast improvement i still dont see "best lineman in the game" potential given that that would be a huge turnaround at this point - and you could argue we already made it clear how much we value guys who are ascending and better than lael collins with the way that KO managed to get priced out of town - there's no way we let KO walk essentially for a 3rd round pick and then we spend a 1st round pick on lael collins... it makes zero sense to me
  42. 2 points
    Our secondary just got deep, with actual talent we can rely on. I am excited for this unit barring Jimmy Smith and his health.... Lord... Smith and Carr on the corners, Young and Webb in the inside??????????? Jefferson, Weddle, and Webb in the back field? Yesssssss
  43. 2 points
    I think the guys guaranteed to go before us are: Myles Garret Jonathan Allen Jamal Adams Malik Hooker Marshon Lattimore Solomon Thomas Then there's a group that I'd say are almost guaranteed to be gone, but there is a small chance or odd scenario where they could fall and one is there (and almost no way more than one of these would be available): Leonard Fournette OJ Howard Rueben Foster Mike Williams Then a group that very well could go ahead and are prob top 15 type players, but have a decent chance to be there: Derek Barnett Corey Davis Haason Reddick And then finally the group of players (x-factor types or guys who the media are all over the place on, are raw but have elite traits, elite talents with red flags, reaches for need, injury concerns, or guys that someone top 15 falls in love with) that could be the reason a guy from group 2 is available or makes multiple from group 3: Mitch Trubisky, Deshuan Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Deshon Kizer Gareon Conley, Tre White, Marlon Humphrey Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Christian McCaffery Jabrill Peppers Ryan Ramczyk, Forrest Lamp, Garret Bolles, Cam Robinson Takk McKinley, Taco Charlton, Tim Williams John Ross
  44. 2 points
  45. 2 points
    Right on. Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Mat Burk retired. What are Ravens still looking for? Linebacker, Safety, and a Center.5 years later. Has everyone forgot about the nightmare when Matt Burk retired in 2013?
  46. 2 points
    I mean...high school, college, the Ravens, I don't see the problem here.
  47. 2 points
    Always felt that if Camp could stay healthy... that he could be good.... I am just not convinced that he can stay healthy. However... good signing.... little risk with possible high reward... Contracts like that can make a team!
  48. 2 points
    That doesn't mean they were good
  49. 2 points
    Fake news, no credible sources.
  50. 2 points
    “With the 26 pick in the 2nd round of the 2017 Forum Mock, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select... Jarrad Davis LB University of Florida