Leaderboard

I'll take the heat for posting a gif on this one.

Good god i cant even understand what im reading...and im from Arkansas

Is Elam now one of those 'bad-boy' players that the Ravens so desperately need?

I keep thinking the same thing. With Dixon on the team, I have pretty much zero interest in picking Cook with #16.

BmoreBird when people try to outbid him.

I heard his a good distributor

To be fair, @usmccharles is a Southern Man and residing in California

A quote from a comment on NFL Memes: "Even after being arrested for dealing, he is still a far better drug dealer than football player. What does a blunt and Matt Elam have in common? Both get burned on a regular basis.Sincerely,Die-hard Ravens fan"

Crimson tide fan here, but cam was beaten virtually every snap by Barnett, the number of times hurts had to get rid of the ball quickly or go to the screen in stead of the downfield shot was enormous and don't forget bama was playing with a lead the whole game - I cant imagine what would have happened had Barnett been allowed to tee off against a chasing bama offense most of bama's run plays in that game either went away from Barnett behind the bama right guard who had a great game or were qb scrambles (some were to barnett's side to be fair) barnett literally had cam on skates in that matchup - cam would lunge early to try and get hands on and hope he made contact and Barnett would just rip by him off the edge - hurts mostly just got the ball out quick

I can agree with this.

my gut tells me if Barnett is there at 16 he's our guy.

And... invalid... you didn't quote the previous high. Like I said, please pay attention or we're going to have to take action.

Amen. Can I get an "amen"? Preach the Word, brother!

@Yatagarasu From Rules Thread: Editing or deleting of posts is NOT permitted, and has a penalty. You will not be allowed to make anymore bids for the next 15 minutes if you edit/delete a bid. You have to stop playing this game by your own imaginary rules. We want to enjoy this process, not spend half of every FA period policing your crap.

Bid for the cap space you have, not the cap space you want.

Dude... United States Marine Corps. usmc

I suspect it's the oxy that will take him down.

I really don't even blame Ozzie for how poor that draft was as a whole. We got Juice, Williams and Wagner in that crap shoot. I'll take it.

Jeff Zrebiec (@jeffzrebiecsun) 2/26/17, 11:06 AM Ravens statement on safety Matt Elam: "We are aware of the arrest of Matt Elam. Matt is not in our plans for the 2017 Ravens." LOL!

With how loaded this upcoming draft is an extra pick in the top 100 is huge.

Speaking of this thread, just finished watching some Flacco highlights on YouTube. Damn near brought a tear to my eye (figuratively of course). #makeflaccogreatagain2017

Bidding will end tomorrow night at 7pm, but no bids will be allowed to be placed until tomorrow at 12pm. When we had this happen in the past, the 24 hours added must have made people crazy and they got bored, and prices skyrocketed. DL will still start tomorrow night but not until 8pm. It will still end at 7pm on Thursday.

Yes and you seem to have already done that, thus our current issue.

This post has zero basis whatsoever.

In my mind, given all the drama surrounding a 32 year old player who is clearly regressing with the passing of every season, a 0.5 star bid is appropriate to begin the bidding.

Again you can't just compare their PFF rankings and so ok Zuttahs better. OL grading is terribly subjective especially when it comes to grading individuals. Their play is going to be effected by who is around them a great deal. Having Yanda next to you is going to make any lineman look better. Having an injury and playing on the Jets OL will make you look worse. Then theres fit. Fit in terms of the defenses we face in division and what we want to do in the run game. Zuttah just can't handle to big, physical NTs and DTs we face week in week out in the AFCN. Mangold is a dirty, grinding mauler. He can battle those guys. He also can push guys around. Zuttah can when he's on the move but with us doing less and less stretch zone we need guys that can generate push right off the snap. Zuttah just can't do it often enough on inside zone, gap or power based plays. Then theres leadership. Mangold has been a premier C for a decade. His knowledge of the game, awareness in picking up blitzes, and that workmanlike attitude can really help a young line. And Joe. Plus as TheRaven pointed out.... he's much like a Center version of Yanda. Put those 2 next to eachother and interior DL are going to be miserable. Yes... all of this assumes he's over the injury and that it was partially to blame for his poor play (along w/ no talent around him) but Zuttah is not the answer going forward. Idc what PFF says I saw him all year. Beside penalties he just gets pushed back far too often right off the snap. That hurts the whole line. Puts pressure in Joe's lap right away. And Zuttah is the exact opposite of what the team has said they want from the OL going forward. Even if (which is a big If imo) Zuttah is better at what he does than Mangold is at what he does.... what Zuttah does no longer fits. He's a liability on many inside runs, and he can't hold up against big, interior guys in pass protection.

A two round mock o NFL Spinzone had the Ravens going Corey Davis in the first, and Charles Harris in the second. I would love for it to turn out this way.

Only time you can go over is if you're over 51 players. So if you have 7.5 stars available, you can bid 8 since a 0.5 player would then fall out of the top 51.

Luckily, we don't have to.

Too soon! lol Funny looking back. He was all of those things in college but just lost it in the NFL. Still not sure why

Let's take a run at that Matt Elam guy. Hard hitter, great range and sure tackler. Need secondary help...

Did you really write that the Ravens have consistently done more for Flacco than the Falcons have for Ryan? wowzer! And you are writing other things here and not understanding(maybe purposely) what you are writing. Boldin was here for 3 years and has been gone for 4. We won a SB in one of those years and were very competitive in the other two. Flacco and SSS had a good year in 2014, almost made it to the SB. 2015, 2016, injuries. Williams, Perriman and Gillmore probably haven't played a seasons worth of games between them. What is so hard to understand? I really have no interest in taking the time to disprove it, but your subjective hypothesis that "many, many teams are worse off" really has no bearing on matters. Fact is if the Ravens want to get back on top there's going to have to be improvements on offense in more areas than just the play of the QB.

Lol....yeah that's not true, "much better" is a huge exaggeration. Q had more targets/receptions with those teams as they featured the pass more, but his YPC were as high/higher in Bmore as any point of his career. Housh? Lee Evans? Seriously? Gimme a break. LMAO! And Todd was a shell of his former self, beaten and battered, by the time Flacco arrived. Pretty much FALSE on all counts. lol

i doubt we use it to trade up. i actually could see us trade back and end up with 3 thirds or 2 seconds.

A lot of poor ball placement from Flacco recently could be a massive reason.

I think more and more people start to see this way when they look at game field and scan where the wide receivers are on the field. The receivers on this team have struggled finding separation for years now. Sure Flacco has a boneheaded interception here and there but not much more than the rest of the NFL. The team needs a couple legit redzone threats I feel like the team moved the ball last year but couldn't get touchdowns. I'm surprised the wide receiver coach has kept his job the last few years after this issue hasn't been resolved.

Re Demps bids - yeah, I admit - it was confusing. Just not for me, since I was on at the time and knew what was happening chronologically. Re server outage - I propose to ban @BmoreBird22 from putting more bids in this FA. Clearly he crashed the site.

Without stockpiling picks for 2016 we wouldn't have Judon and we would have been short a fourth round pick, so we would be losing one of young, Lewis, Dixon, Henry, or Moore. If we went with Henry or Moore over Dixon Lewis or young then this draft class suddenly wouldn't look so good, but we stockpiled picks and got home runs in the mid rounds which set up our future nicely. Not to mention, we drafted KC to be an edge rusher and he fell short there, but looked good at ILB, and Zach Orr retired, so we set ourselves up nicely with an insurance policy. I'd rather have KC at ilb with Judon and Dixon/young/Lewis than spence or jack, easy.

that was the first game i watched every snap of Barnetts.... and they literally ran the entire game plan to avoid him. The only time they went his way was after running 4-5 straight plays away from him, and then used the over pursuit of the defense to that side to run a PA fake and screen to Barnett's side. Even with the limited opportunity he had to actually impact the game, he still did. And abused Cam. Over and over and over again. It was just awesome to watch. After watching that tape I was convinced he was the safest pass rusher in the draft. Might not have the freak upside of Garrett, but I think at worst hes a consistent 3 down starter in the Pro Bowl convo getting you 8-12 sacks as the norm. Probably one of the 3-5 safest players period in the draft, in my opinion, along with Jamal Adams, Jonathan Allen, and maybe Fournette or Sidney Jones (in terms of being a guaranteed at least solid starter).

There's a mountain of data out there that is still trying to be analyzed in terms of just how good NFL teams are at drafting players, but I will say that I've yet to see one statistical support for the idea of having less draft picks yields better draft choices. In most cases, the data I've seen seems to suggest that quantity of draft picks is arguably the most important aspect of the draft, since the shear risk and volatility of draft pick quality among even the best drafting teams is so erratic that its pretty much impossible to do what you suggested. Plus, in a salary cap era, you want the overwhelming majority of your 53 man roster to be guys on rookie contracts anyway.

As you can clearly see, his cap hit is 24m, his dead money is a whopping 23m more than that. That is 47million against the cap in 2017, so let's break down what this means... The ravens currently have 15m cap space, cutting joe flacco means that we have to clear 32m just to break even. Let's go over this one as well... the ravens have few players they can cut to clear massive cap space because there is a fair bit of dead cap tied up, we would need to Cut yanda to save 2m, doom to save 6, Wallace to save 6, pitta to save 3, Webb to save 5, Suggs to save 1, wright to save 3(need to anyway), zuttaj to save 2, Arrington to save 2, Jernigan to save 1, and at that point you still have to clear 2mil just to be at the cap, and after those cuts there is only savings of fractions of a million, you would need to cut another 4 or 5 players to hit that cap, at this point you literally don't have a team to field. Now, the draft class usually costs about 8m a year, you have to clear that up as well which would be nearly impossible because the savings just wouldn't be there. But you want 2 first round picks so the required space would be even higher. I could go on about free agents that would be due that we couldn't resign, but we would've cut them all anyway so it wouldnt matter and the franchise would have to fold and forfeit the 2017 season for not having a team to field. That is what happens when you take on joes dead cap, this is why nobody is on board with your super duper comprehensuv plan.

I agree with this. Right now i'm going between Cook and Barnett as the 16th pick. Cook would do wonders for this offense. This might not be a popular thought but the Ravens structure their team a lot like the Steelers do. If Cook is there i promise you everyone inside the Ravens war room will be thinking about the impact that Bell has in that Steelers offense. Cook is a homerun hitter in every since of the word and would really open the Ravens offense up. I don't think he's a work horse nor should he be. Cook and Dixon would be a great 1-2 punch. 10-15 carries per game for those guys would provide a night thunder and lighting style of running to this offense. Then of course that would just open up the play action game for guys like Perriman and Moore on the outside. The offense will operate off the run game and be built through the TEs. Having a guy like Cook who the defense will have to respect every play would be huge. Same goes for Fournette. I think Barnett might just be the best pass rusher in this draft. He's a complete edge player and reminds me so much of Suggs coming to the Ravens from ASU. I don't think he'll test well as the combine and slide down the board as a result. There are some that don't like him and feel his production won't translate to the NFL but I don't share those concerns. I think he comes in day 1 and starts on the opposite of Suggs, learning the Ravens Way from Suggs before taking over as the top dog in 2018. He's the type of pass rusher that will make other guys better because he'll command double teams and for olines to account for him. The same way the Ravens were able to quickly replace Ray in the middle with CJ, I think they're able to replace Suggs with Barnett. He's gonna be a nightmare for QBs, I just hope he does it in a Ravens uniform.

at this point we all have no real clue who we are going to draft but we should have a good idea after free agency but as long as they can come in and contribute Ill be happy just hope we don't draft any special teamers and by that I mean guys that pretty much can't play a position very well but are good on special teams like what we did with Reynolds last year I want to see us get some hungry guy that want to compete for a starting job

This just goes to show how difficult the FO's job is! I watched so much film of Elam and was convinced that he was the next Troy Polomalu type safety. Well, I was wrong just like Ozzie and Decosta (not that they needed my opinion). I'm definitely a monday morning GM! Not because i'm a fair weather fan it's because I'm a die hard fan! I want my team to be competitive every year.

Elam is done here. He was scheduled to be a FA in a couple of weeks and wasn't going to be brought back anyways, but it's still puts a bad look on the Ravens organization. I'd bet this is the first step to his career at Foot Locker, though.

There were no mysteries and no one asked "What happened?" with any of the three as it was obvious all three were pretty much spent and done. Housh left after his one year in Bmore, played in 9 games in Oakland the following season catching 11 passes, then retired. Evans arrived, hurt his ankle in camp, hardly saw the field all year and never played another down after his one year here. And if you were a huge Todd Heap fan like me you know that he was battered and worn from the years of being hung out by the likes of Boller, Wright and Redmond. He still played his heart out with Joe despite being a shell of his former self. Todd left going to Arizona, played sparsely in 12 games in two years catching 32 passes, and retired. Nothing "odd" or peculiar here. Edit; just a quick add on Boldin.....if he plays 16 games in '11 and '12 he likely breaks 1000 yards twice while here.

By the way, this is a bit of a gentlemen's rule, but it would help for the newcomers to be made aware of it. If there's a situation where a future FA signee, a future draftee, etc. are still hanging in the balance, we don't discuss them until their fates are sealed. I.e., if we're at the FA period, and I believe that Player X is getting overpaid or underpaid, or whether I want to chime in on their worth, I would save it until after they're signed. Same goes for the draft portion as well.

Well considering much of his cap impact is from past bonuses that we paid him and another team wouldn't have to take those one, he'd be a FA for about an hour and a half. If we were to trade him, another team would only pay him $6M next season, $12M in 2018, and $18.5M in 2019... all great bargains. So yeah, needless to say, there would be about a half dozen teams that would spring into action at that point. At those amounts, his production doesn't even matter. The reason we are "stuck with him" is because it would take many, many years to find a better player, and we have no interest in getting rid of a player who's already proven he can be very good for us. Doesn't make much sense from a business or an on-field success standpoint. We know he's better than Osweiler, and he got $18M a year. So yeah, the bidding starts at $20M and goes up from there.

Tarvaris Jackson arrested for pointing a gun at his wife. His wife's response is freaking classic. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/24/tarvaris-jackson-arrested-after-allegedly-for-pointing-gun-at-wife/