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  1. 13 points
    I'll take the heat for posting a gif on this one.
  2. 10 points
    Sure, I'm going to spend a massive amount of time on a game with someone who refuses to spell our team's name correctly. SMH!
  3. 9 points
    Good god i cant even understand what im reading...and im from Arkansas
  4. 8 points
    Is Elam now one of those 'bad-boy' players that the Ravens so desperately need?
  5. 6 points
    I don't think I want to know the answer to that. Thanks for capitalizing.
  6. 6 points
  7. 6 points
    The early rounds need to get worked out, but as of now we should stick with the comp formula because the 4th and 5th is where we make our money. We have done Maybe better than any team in the late rounds, but picks like kindle, cody, Upshaw, elam, brown, Brooks, and potentially maxx and Correa(this far at least) are really clouding his track record. Mosley, jernigan, perriman, and Stanley have his track record on the uptick, assuming they all progress. If he can get a good first 2 rounds in this upcoming draft I think people start slowing their roll when calling for ozzies head. He got lost in the retirement frenzy trying to replace guys, hopefully learned his lesson, and is fixing the mistakes. The real challenge comes now though, our roster is gonna be seriously lacking in 2 years and he needs to prepare for that while also building our present team, and he has to do so with average value picks and no more low-value holes to fill, most of our holes are in the high value sexy positions and we have no means of addressing them.
  8. 4 points
    Dude... United States Marine Corps. usmc
  9. 4 points
    PLEASE KEEP ALL CHATTER OUTSIDE OF THREAD, AND DON'T QUOTE WINNERS YET.
  10. 4 points
    I suspect it's the oxy that will take him down.
  11. 4 points
    I really don't even blame Ozzie for how poor that draft was as a whole. We got Juice, Williams and Wagner in that crap shoot. I'll take it.
  12. 4 points
    Getting awarded a pick and you still complain because we let a guard go who got offered LT money for G, makes sense. I bet you would complain about a 98 yard TD because it wasn't a 99 yard TD. I love it.
  13. 4 points
    Flacco's contract isn't hurting the Ravens as much as people think. Over the first 3 years of the original contract, Flacco's cap hit was really team friendly. Since signing Flacco to the original contract, the team signed, Pitta, Jimmy, Monroe, Yanda, Tucker, Koch and Weddle to big deals. That doesn't include locking up guys like Zuttah, Wright, SSS, Forsett and Watson to deals that weren't big but the team thought these players would contribute a lot. They also made competitive offers to Torrey and KO. Flacco's contract hasn't hurt the team, that's just the perception going around. What has hurt the Ravens is these long term commitments and young draft picks not playing well over the last 3-4 years. The Ravens have been among the top of the league in dead money over the last 3-4 years because of poor contracts. Injuries have hurt as well. Flacco certainly has to play better and play up to his contract, but he hasn't stopped the team from signing anyone. Boldin was traded because the Ravens didn't think he could perform as well moving forward. Torrey wasn't a guy the Ravens would pay 10Mil for, especially since they have so much success getting close to over the hill WRs who can perform just as well as Torrey and no way they were paying KO LT money without being 100% sure he was the answer there which no one could honestly say. Seeing Flacco struggle on a huge contract sucks, but the reality is, the Ravens don't commit big money to outside players often and the guys they wanted to keep here they have. Flacco has to play better, but the Ravens were banking on guys like Perriman, Maxx, Brooks, Elam, Davis, Smith, Timmy, Taliafero, Buck and others to really step their games up and be the new era of players to keep the team performing well and that just hasn't happened.
  14. 4 points
    I just watched a boat load of tape on Solomon Thomas and fell in love
  15. 3 points
  16. 3 points
    Would love to have Mangold playing beside Yanda. That would be nasty! (and in Greg Romans system)!
  17. 3 points
    Signing Mangold would have more impact on the upcoming season than any of the other players being "associated" with the Ravens in the free agent market. Since we are joined at the hip with Flacco for three more years due to the dead money involved, we need to try to get him to play better than the 24th ranked (QBR) player at his position. Mangold seems like the best option I have seen thus far.
  18. 3 points
  19. 3 points
    wasn't elam switched? KC is another example. i think art brown was another too. waller has been playing decent in limited snaps.
  20. 3 points
    @52520Andrew and I have an idea but it was too late to implement this year. Once things die down I can explain it in the CoCo thread, and maybe we can run a test for like final, final free agency or something.
  21. 3 points
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  24. 3 points
    Let's take a run at that Matt Elam guy. Hard hitter, great range and sure tackler. Need secondary help...
  25. 3 points
    the jets players and management speak about brandon marshall as a model teammate. he has been active in the community and has spoken up about his past to encourage other young knuckleheads to shape up. not sure where youre getting some of that from. but i also would prefer robert woods, hes a very underrated wr in this league whos been stuck in a bad situation, and would bring a lot of what were missing, refined savvy route running and quality hands/ball skills.
  26. 3 points
    He had 17 run stops and 13 missed tackles. He takes bad angles very often. He's had problems in man coverage too when asked to cover a tight end one on one. He's only seemed to make plays when hes the center fielder. Qbs underestimated his range and thanks to his athleticism he was able to make the play. He's only played one year as a college safety before that he was a basketball player. He has a lot he needs to work on and will be a project in the NFL. Teams need to be careful with players who come in with super high expectations. Hookers just not there yet. I'm not questioning the talent or potential, I just think it will take one or two years for him to get acclimated to the NFL. Ohio state simplified things for their inexperienced defense. He's gonna have to learn an nfl playbook and I doubt he's really had to learn much from a playbook considering his extremely short football career
  27. 3 points
    Lol....yeah that's not true, "much better" is a huge exaggeration. Q had more targets/receptions with those teams as they featured the pass more, but his YPC were as high/higher in Bmore as any point of his career. Housh? Lee Evans? Seriously? Gimme a break. LMAO! And Todd was a shell of his former self, beaten and battered, by the time Flacco arrived. Pretty much FALSE on all counts. lol
  28. 3 points
    i doubt we use it to trade up. i actually could see us trade back and end up with 3 thirds or 2 seconds.
  29. 3 points
    I wish fans would realize that Flacco isn't going anywhere for awhile, and we would be dumb to let him go....
  30. 3 points
    The flacco contract definitely is hurting us. In fact I would say that probably no other contract in the NFL is handcuffing their team worse. But I still would not call that Ozzies biggest mistake. IDK... Boller comes to mind. Allowing Harbs to bring Dean Pees in comes to mind... The Webb contract is up there. The Pitta contract is also up there. All the guaranteed money on the Ray Rice deal hurt us badly over the past two years. Sergio Kindle hurt us... But Flacco has produced (albeit not up to his contract) but he has produced. So... as much as his contract holds the team hostage... I cant call it Ozzie's worst move... but its top 10 for sure!
  31. 3 points
  32. 2 points
    a lot of mocks have been posted recently so i guess ill throw in a pre-combine mock as well. im gonna do my best to be realistic based on what the ravens would do and try to keep personal bias out. 1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett, EDGE, TAM - BPA, rare talent, high value position, no brainer. 2. SF - Jonathan Allen, DL, Bama - with the news of kirk cousins likely being traded for their 34th overall pick and carlos hyde, they may go ahead and take the BPA and turn their line into something absolutely ridiculous. if arik armstead can make himself a decent NT and at least eat space then there will be no stopping their front 3. with their solid secondary their defense will lead the charge back into relevance. 3. Chicago - Mitch trubisky, QB, NC - chicago cant continue without a qb, they are getting dangerously close to browns/niners territory. they need a ton of help all across the roster, really they should go BPA here and take jamal adams since they need a lot of secondary help anyway and be patient, but i think cutler has left such a sour taste in their mouths that they will try to find their qb ASAP. not sold on trubisky, but far from being down on him. 4. Jax - Jamal Adams, S, LSU - far and away the BPA here(for most people, i like hooker slightly more but only due to my bias for center fielder type safeties) and with ramsey playing corner they need a safety. the new face of the franchise. 5. Tenn - Malik Hooker, FS, OSU - great player, can be argued that he is the BPA, and if the titans continue being smart they are going to be perennial juggernauts, by being smart i mean landing home runs with all of their early picks, this is a home run in so many ways, the titans currently have a horrible safety tandem and secondary in general, hookers presence alone basically eliminates vertical threats and turns the rare vertical attempt into an interception often. no safety has played the single high ballhawk role as well as hooker since ed reed. 6. NYJ - Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU - i dont wanna make this pick because it feels like such a gimme, considering everyone is mocking him here, but it makes sense, and im trying to be realistic. the jets have a solid roster, they could take a cb but as good as this class is i dont think anyone is 6th overall worthy, other than that they dont have many tangible weaknesses outside of qb and rb, and they seem to be set on being patient with hackenberg. so heres a qb's best friend, a workhorse back. 7. Chargers - Mike Williams, WR, Clemson - travis benjamin is meh, keenan allen is great but one of the most injured players in the league, and phillip rivers at this point of his career deserves to be spoiled, hes been beaten and battered so badly due to an inept FO that refuses to make good signings and draft picks along the OL, and there are no options there at this point, so the next best thing is not just an insurance policy for his injured top target, but a definite upgrade over any receiving options on the team. 8. Carolina - Solomon Thomas, DL, Stanford - how is it possible that a team who has invested so many high picks on the DL falling short? charles johnson and kawann short are FAs, kony ealy? vernon butler? they could be excellent there, but nobody knows yet, and that still leaves a no-name on the strong-side DE, thomas puts an elite talent at whatever the hell position they need him at, and is most likely the BPA which is what carolina loves to do. 9. Cinci - Reuben Foster, LB, Bama - the newest thorn in the ravens side. if this dude went 2nd overall i wouldnt bat an eye, thats how good he is, positional "value" has him slide here and cinci wins out on a generational talent and the ultimate losers here? every other team in the AFCNorth. 10. Buf - Corey Davis, WR, WMU - the biggest weakness on this team is WR, after qb of course, but this weak qb class turns them away. sammy watkins is an injury waiting to happen, and with robert woods leaving they have literally nothing you can even mistake for a NFL WR corps if watkins is hurt. whoever ends up at qb for buffalo will be a happy man, having the elite route running of corey davis and watkins, the big bodied strong handed charles clay, and shady mac in the backfield. 11. NO - Derek Barnett, EDGE, Tenn - they would be fools to take anyone else here. barnett is the most complete edge defener after myles garrett, with an elite bend and array of pass rush moves, great IQ, and good run defense and even zone drop ability, he fills the biggest need as the flat out BPA. a guy like this helps keep pace with atlanta and carolina who you can compete against with a good and well-rounded front. 12. Cleveland - Marshon Lattimore, CB, OSU - the most talented CB since Pat Pete falls due to injuries. if lattimore had stayed healthy he is a #1 overall type of corner. cleveland takes a shot here at a player who can legitimately be the best corner in the league, which also fills a need. they stay patient for a qb, one of kizer or watson will be there at 33 most likely. 13. AZ - OJ Howard, TE, Bama - gresham out howard in, they have no-names at TE and with michael floyd being gone and fitz getting up there, they need receiving options, Howard is an enormous potential type of guy who could rise even higher than this after the combine, hes also proven to be clutch, i guess... i mean blown coverages and play design have gotten him open for huge plays in championship games, but why the hell doesnt every OC do that? so im sure howard wasnt just gifted big plays in big games. 14. Indy - Dalvin Cook, RB, FSU - gore is on his last legs, frankly its a miracle hes in the NFL at this point. they need a ton of help on defense, and i dont think the colts are afraid of character concerns since the irsays arent exactly shining stars. they could go a ton of different ways here, but the team is built around andrew luck and an incredible talent at RB takes precedence over any help on defense. 15. Philly - Taco Charlton, DE, Mich - with connor barwin likely on his way out, the eagles get an excellent 43DE here. taco looks like one of more NFL ready guys with all the measurables, ridiculous burst and closing speed for a guy his size, plays like a NFL edge defender being well rounded. hes a day one starter and hes gonna wreak havoc in the NFC east, a division with a lot of good tackles. philly is upset about missing out on so many great offensive prospect for wentz to grow with, but they end up happy once taco dominates. 16. Ravens - Marlon Humphrey, CB, Bama - i wont be happy here. but this is me trying to be realistic. i think humphrey is gonna crush the combine and be a top 3 athlete at cb, and I actually believe that the ozzie-bama connection IS a real thing(i dont think ozzie just prefers alabama prospects, but i think there is a comfort level with him having connections there), but im just not a big fan, im not big on corners who struggle to turn their head and play the ball. what im hoping is that he is put in a position to succeed, let him play a lot of zone, keep the plays in front of him, dont put him in man coverage, dont let him get exposed by jumpball receivers, and worst case scenario this kid could be an excellent safety. this is just a pick i could imagine happening. 17. Washington - Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova - the combine should have this beast flying up the boards. he is just a monster of a man, 6'7" 290+ but he bursts off the ball and bends the edge like hes 4 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter, hes crazy to watch on tape. he bullrushes multiple blockers successfully on a consistent basis, he finishes plays, he plays incredibly violent, hes just a superhero on film, small school status and limited film has him in the teens but a jaw dropping set of measurables has him rise from the second. plus, the skins need a 5T and a big time player in their front seven. 18. Tenn - Sidney Jones, CB, WU - tennessee makes a statement that they are ready to take over the south when everything just falls their way in multiple drafts. sidney jones could fall, he has possibly the worst top end speed of the first round corners and his tackling can turn some teams off, the combine could hurt him, but hes still imo an elite prospect and the most scheme diverse corner in the draft. tennessees secondary does a complete 180 due to their trade back in which they land elite prospects with every pick. 19. TB - Budda Baker, S, WU - tampa literally doesnt have a starting safety under contract for 2017, and to say they had one in 2016 is questionable at best. baker should crush the combine, it is reported he runs in the 4.3 range and his tape would have him going in the top half of most draft classes, but the top 2 safeties in this class are out of this world which changes things, but teams open their eyes when they see his combine which should be stellar. 20. Denver - Cam Robinson, OL, Bama - the only reason he is going here over many other OL prospects, is that denver doesnt know which position they need the most, and robinson projects as basically anything but a LT or C, and worst case he is a dominant run blocker who struggles to pass protect at either RG or RT, but either way theyre getting a big upgrade at what they like to do the most, run the ball. 21. Detroit - Charles Harris, EDGE, Mizzou - an upgrade across from ziggy is a more dire need than their secondary, nevin lawson played solid as a #2 last year and darius slay is one of the better corners in the league, their need there is a bit overblown, what they have across from ziggy though is pitiful. 22. Miami - Tim Williams, DE, Bama - would be better off as a 34OLB, but should do fine if given a role as a primary rusher. miami is another team that needs dire help across from their only real edge rusher, williams' combine should make teams overlook the stupidity a little bit. 23. NYG - Garrett Bolles - OT, Utah - the giants need a tackle, flowers has been bad, they have nothing across from him. if bolles even turns out mediocre its an upgrade. but he shouldnt be mediocre, he should be quite decent. 24. Oakland - Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida - not sure why I think he will fall, but i think he will. he plays heavy footed, can be overly aggressive, and i hate the way he press covers, planting your feet and giving one hard shove generating power from your hips is as reckless as it gets and he wont get away with it in the nfl, which is why he falls. however there is a lot to like. no need to go into it, just need to explain why he falls. 25. Houston - DeShone Kizer, QB, ND - self explanitory. theyll be kicking themselves for years over the osweiler contract, but they cant waste the talent they currently have and need a qb in a hurry, regardless of current cap figures. 26. Seattle - Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida - in conversation for the BPA and while they need OL help, they just dont see a value at 26th(though id call dan feeney a hell of a value). 27. KC - Dan Feeney, G, Indiana - best linemen in the draft for the head coach who loves first round OL more than any coach in the league. "andy reid loves O-linemen in the first round" is one of those draft stories that is 100% true. 28. Dallas - Jabrill Peppers, SS/OLB, Michigan - sacrilege to suggest an upgrade over barry church on these boards. but the cowboys need help in coverage regardless, they have the pieces in place, like scandrick and byron jones, but they could use a guy like peppers to inject some life into the defense. he offers an upgrade as a Strongside OLB in their 43, or as a full time SS, and he definitely adds another dimension as a blitzer and just an uber athletic and instinctive swiss army knife. 29. GB - Ethan Pocic, C/G/RT, LSU - if JC Tretter goes theyll need a center, if TJ Lang goes theyll need a guard, pocic does both and is one of the highest IQ and technically sound offensive linemen in this class. the only issue is his height which makes him struggle to get low and generate push from time to time, but a hell of a player who seems like he fits right in at GB. 30. Pitt - Takk McKinley, EDGE, UCLA - i think theyre definitely going with an edge defender here, regardless of who it is. 31. Atlanta - Jalen Tabor, CB, Florida - the falcons whole identity on defense is based around pass rushing and forcing turnovers. i dont like tabor at all, i think hes a holding machine and incredibly undisciplined, and my thinking is that if you jump every stutter step a WR makes then youre gonna guess right often, which is basically what tabor has done, but hey maybe they like his abilitty to generate turnovers. 32. NE - Christian Mcaffrey, RB/WR/KR/PR, Stanford - cliche as hell but hes mocked here often for a reason. ROUND 2: Haason Reddick, OLB, Temple. I dont wanna hear that hes too small. hes 6'1" 230, and can probably start the season at 240, the lack of height only helps him considering his arms are extremely long, with big strong hands, he can generate great leverage with that combination, reddick already displays a great bend, and being 6'1" he is near impossible to get hands on when he gets the slightest advantage on the edge, the long arms and great balance and low center of gravity help him to dip extremely low when turning the corner. he plays like an absolute lightning bolt in space, his pursuit is stellar, he is refined and has the full arsenal of hand and foot moves, highly instinctive, very passionate and motivated, natural leader, and just looks like an alpha on the field. this isnt a kamalei correa situation, reddick is a natural edge rusher with nfl ready ability, KC was an extremely raw project who was also somewhat undersized. Reddick is gonna be a major steal, his day 2 measurables will outweigh his first round tape and 47 teams will be kicking themselves for not taking him. ROUND 3 Nazair Jones, DT, NC. another DL to add to the long history of mid round DLs drafted by ozzie which leaves fans saying "why did we take him when X was on the board to fill a need" and we end up eating our words. jernigan can leave when his contract is up because this guy will be a machine of a hybrid 3 and 5 tech, just like jernigan. we also dont have to worry about carl davis anymore who i think is circling the drain, and it gives us a hell of a DT while we wait on willie henry to develop(if he ever does). just a really ravens like pick. COMP Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA. good athlete, hes got the loose hips, hes fluid, hes got ball skills, and really he stick to his man pretty well and plays shifty and fast, also plays with a swagger and confidence. he seems to just kinda lose track of his man at times, peeking back at the qb and not sticking to his man, he had a solid senior bowl with such a strong cb class he probably shouldnt be going higher than late 3rd, unless he crushes the combine. ROUND 4 Taylor Moton, G/OT, WMU. had a good senior bowl, but still could see himself go early on day 3, smaller school o-linemen dont typically generate a ton of buzz late in the draft process, especially if they arent athletic freaks. Moton is a point-of-attack type of guy, monster of a mauler, shouldnt show very much at the combine that will push his stock upwards. if the ravens wanna get bigger and stronger up front, this guy is a start, now when one of our guys inevitably go down and we need to slide a starting guard out to tackle like we seem to do every season, we have a guard who can bring an enormous push on the inside, with enough coaching he can be a starting guard, and he will be a huge boost to the run game if that happens. ROUND 5 Darreus Rogers, WR, USC. best hands in the nation. I have never(iirc) compared a college prospect to boldin, because i dont think "contested catches" is the only criteria there and there are tons of receivers who do that, however, darreus rogers really does look like boldin on tape. it isnt just the contested catches, but the way he plays in general. he doesnt get wide open really ever, but he gets his own type of separation, which is really more body positioning than anything, he plants and cuts with authority and shields off the defender and faces the qb, and attacks the ball with ferocity, with vice grip hands that no college db has been able to break up. the USC offense wasnt very kind to him as juju got a ton of looks but i truly believe rogers is the better receiver, his hands are ridiculous and he has NFL level ball tracking and body control. with his style of play, speed, burst, quickness, agility, it just wont matter, if he can beat college dbs as badly as he does on tightly contested catches, then all hes gotta do to make the leap is bulk up a bit and keep on outmanning dbs with those hands. thats as deep as im gonna go.
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  35. 2 points
    Assuming he's healthy 1. We can get Mangold for half of what we are going to pay for Wagner! 2. Alex Lewis can fill Wagner's spot. 3. Much easier to find a LG than a RT 4. We can target another position in the earlier rounds and not be worried about picking up a Tackle or Center early. Sounds like a no brainer! But I am a dumb fan!
  36. 2 points
    Shortened so I'm not quoting a book... I think the biggest issues with the FO's drafting in recent years is twofold. 1. How many years have we had the same hole that we haven't filled? BPA is great and all, but at some point, you have to make the move get a guy at a position that hasn't worked out for several years. We need to choose where to be stingy. We don't want to pay FAs but we also don't want to give up draft capital to get someone either. When a position has been a problem for several years in a row, you have to pick and choose what you want to do and we've lacked heavily in that area. 2. Where are the star players? It's great that we keep hitting these doubles and getting good, quality players, but you need some top shelf talent to go along with it. This team has been hit hard by the complete lack of playmakers on the roster in recent years. We've failed to draft one and that has been a big reason for these consecutive rough years. Ozzie and Eric have done a lot of great things for this organization, but they clearly have to shoulder a good bit of blame for the recent struggles of the team. I'm not saying they should be fired or anything or that I want them replaced at this juncture, but they shouldn't get a pass either.
  37. 2 points
    Yeah just about everyone waits until the final 5 to do any serious bidding on their guys when there are 24 hours to bid and nothing really happens during a large chunk of that time. If people put in serious bids earlier in the process, I don't see how things would be that controversial if they get outbid. But the current system rewards people who wait to bid so people wait
  38. 2 points
    Is truth trying to field 2 OL to keep Carr save?
  39. 2 points
    There's one particular member is a master at that lol
  40. 2 points
    We're two months away from the draft and Brantley still goes unnoticed. That is beyond me, like, I just don't see what he isn't good at.
  41. 2 points
    I don't see that... the only thing I see is he starts moving at the snap, when ideally your FS is moving before the snap. He makes plays in run support fairly often too, not Jamal Adams level by a long shot but he does well at being the safety net on run plays
  42. 2 points
    there is nothing to disprove. since drafting Julio the falcons have done next to nothing to add others WRs through the draft. They only drafted 2 other WR in round 4 and 7 since then. Dont think i need to list all the WRs we have spend picks on since drafting Torrey lol TE aint even close to what we have done in filling that position compared to them. They only drafted 2 TE since 2011 in round 3 and 4. we drafted a TE in round 2,3 and 5 not counting waller who was a 6th rounder. Coleman was a 3rd round pick and Freeman was a 4th round pick. we drafted pierce , dixon and allen in the first 4 rounds since 2011. Since 2011 the falcons have drafted 4 oliners in round 1 ,2,3 and 7. We drafted oliners in : 1,2.3,4,4,5,5,5 and 6. Draft wise we have done a lot more for the offense then the falcons and i havent even considerd our pro bowl FB. If you want to argue about FA signings then go ahead but i would not recommend it lol
  43. 2 points
    "Just leaving Flacco out to dry and doing nothing"? No, not really, but they've hardly broken the bank to load the offense with weapons. And due to unfortunate injuries(Pitta, SSS, Perriman, Watson, etc.) much of the efforts haven't panned out so well. Do you think they have done as much for him as, let's say, Atlanta has done for Ryan? I'll answer that for you......hell no. To be frank, this whole line of discussion is, again, ridiculous. Everyone knows improvement is needed from Flacco and I haven't read anything here saying otherwise. I think there was improvement over the course of last year. Seems he was gaining confidence in his knee and there's no reason to think that improvement won't continue. Everyone also knows the Ravens need to add playmakers and just need to improve offensive game planning in general.
  44. 2 points
    That is actually a fair question. The FO had basically 2 options, both of which had risks: OPTION 1: Sign Flacco to a hefty contract, hoping he will be able to pick up where he left off in his playoff run and carry this team pretty much on his own. Risk being that Flacco fails to live up to the expectations and ties up much needed part of the cap space. OPTION 2: Refuse to pay Flacco the top dollar and let him walk, hoping you can find and effective replacement for him, in the meantime keeping the rest of the team balanced. Risk being that Flacco keeps playing on high level somewhere else and completely justifies his big payday, while we struggle to find true franchise QB. Of course everyone is smarter in hindsight. And I'm sure FO did what they thought was the smartest decision at the time. I'm not blaming anyone for the decision to resign Flacco, never have, though I'd love to know more about the thought process that went into the decision. I respect the decision, albeit as it turned out it wasn't the best one. However, it irritates me when people act like Flacco's contract is not the problem. It is very big part of the problem! I would not be, if he were to play as was hoped under option 1 described above. But he is not playing well enough. He needs serious help to play well. We can not afford help, because we do not have the money, big reason for that is Flacco's salary. It's more than just hindsight here with Flacco and his salary. First, people are forgetting that two very important things happened that altered the success of the Ravens the following year. (1) Ray Rice was expelled from the league - we lost our pro-bowl caliber RB so there went our run game that we were so dependent on the previous year and (2) Boldin was offered a contract according to the value the Ravens deemed he deserved, as such he refused and ultimately was traded. Then (3) Pitta went out with a broken hip. So while we want to say Flacco hasn't lived up to his contract the truth of the matter the entire team failed to live up to their expectations. I really wish people would stop with the Flacco bs; In 2014 Ngata's cap hit was $14 million - did he produce at $14 million - NO!!!! Is that Flacco's fault, NO!!! IN 2015 Ngata's cap hit was $7.5 million and he was playing for Detroit!!!! Flacco's fault, NOPE!! IN 2014 Ray Rice's Cap hit was $6 million and in 2015 his cap hit was $9 million - paid him $15 million to not even play!!!! Is that Flacco's fault, NO!!!! There is so much more going on with this team than just Flacco and his contract.
  45. 2 points
    Or I just have common sense and am educated on the subject matter.
  46. 2 points
    Yes it was. So when you get paid 28, and you're cap hit is 14, what do you think is going to happen in future years? Do you think that difference is just going to disappear?
  47. 2 points
    Joe's contract has always been a sore spot to SOME fans , but not me, do I wish it could have been a smaller number, for cap reasons yes, but Joe is better than what any other QB we could get at this point, Those who think Joe is not the answer, look at- Philly, Washington, Minnesota, Chicago, San Fran, Rams, Arizona, Miami, Buffalo, Jets, Jax, Houston, Cleveland, Bengals, Denver, KC, San Diego.. Now tell me do you really want to get rid of Joe? I would like to Draft a QB, but this team needs a lot of youth in other areas first.
  48. 2 points
    No! I refuse to even think that Flacco would have another season like last season. Flacco may never be a top 5 QB but he was regularly top 10-15 and caught fire in the playoffs. theres no way Flacco has another down year like last. He'll show up and his value will seem just fine.
  49. 2 points
    Won't happen. If Joe keeps playing like he has do you really want to extend him beyond the two years? Well, we wouldn't be extending him, since he's already under contract through 2021. So in short, yes. If he played like he did last year, I see no reason to move on from him. If fans actually took the time to look around the league (and specifically the College game) and look at the alternatives, it would scare people into loving Flacco. Its that bad. I mean you don't really think teams think that guys like Bradford and Osweiler are really good QBs do you? They just know what the alternative is. Or just pick any franchise that hasn't had a respectable QB in over a decade what they think. The old "o just go get somebody in the draft or FA mantra" doesn't seem to be quite so simple then...
  50. 2 points
    I have been hearing this since the day Joe signed his contract. "You just wait until the next QB signs his deal, then you'll see Flacco is only getting the going rate for NFL QB's". Well it's been 4 long years and every QB in the league has signed a new contract since Joe in 2013. Not one, not two, EVERY QB IN THE LEAGUE. But your right, I'm sure Romo and Cutler will be the highest paid QB's in the league this year. Wow.